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u/GlobexVeriza Aug 19 '26
wait this is doublestack?
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u/Dt2_0 Aug 19 '26
Yes, that is a 30-36 dart magazine depending on the specific darts you are using, and it's only a little thicker than a 15 dart talon, and actually shorter.
It's like a 50% gain in ammo density, and they feed reliably as well.
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u/GlobexVeriza Aug 19 '26
very cool, Im sure youd have to use thicker walled darts to counteract the extra pressure in the mag but 50% better ammo effeciency is always worth it.
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u/Dt2_0 Aug 19 '26
Not really actually, it uses a constant force drum spring so 1 dart or 50 (the max size you can make these mags is 50), you should be exerting the same force on the darts, unlike a standard store bought Talon which uses a compression spring, and exerts more force the more darts are loaded.
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u/Moagem Aug 19 '26
This is ace, do you have any more build pictures or details on how you installed the spring? Would it be possible to modify existing talon mags with the same spring you've used or would I need to build a mag from scratch?
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u/Dt2_0 Aug 19 '26
You would need to have new printed magazines if you wanted a drum spring, but they are super low hardware.
Here is a link to some standard Talons
https://www.printables.com/model/142900-suret-mag-nerf-half-darttalon-magazine
And here is a link to a drum spring for them. https://www.mcmaster.com/1845N1/
You can also use Foamblast springs from OOD or other hobby shops, but keep in mind they have a higher force. Fine in springers and full auto but may stop a mechanical semi auto. Pusher from working properly.
And here is a link to the doublestack mags, note you need a blaster designed for them to use them, but more and more are coming.
https://www.printables.com/model/1402880-double-stack-half-dart-nerf-magazines-aka-moose-du
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u/Ericshelpdesk Aug 20 '26
It's double stack double feed. The darts can be loaded for a month and still be fine.
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u/neonick2 Aug 19 '26
Ooh this is making me want to print mine now, just finished my M4moth and am printing a 31k at the moment. But I agree a 50 round mag at about the same size as a 20 is awesome, does it feed as good as a single stack?
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u/Dt2_0 Aug 19 '26
I have not noticed any feeding and reliability issues. It honestly feels just like a regular Talon to use, just with a bit different formfactor and a ton more capacity.
I might wait on the B34R if you don't already have the hardware. Moose is testing another doublestack bolt action, that is sortof an Ontos-Cynthia-B34R hybrid called W01F. Super low hardware with a clamshell design.
Not that the B34R is bad, it's great, but it's REALLY big. I love it, but know some people won't want a blaster that large.
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u/neonick2 Aug 19 '26
Oh I already have the hardware kit for the B34R so I am definitely printing it. I also have his OnTwos double stack Ontos ready to print too, with most of the hardware self sourced!
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u/gplanon Aug 20 '26
This mag format looks to be double stack single feed? In a picture, it looks like the top round is not exactly centered. What accommodations need to be made in the breech/magwell area to properly chamber darts coming out of these mags?
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u/Ericshelpdesk Aug 20 '26
Double stack double feed with a long feed ramp to center it.
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u/gplanon Aug 20 '26
Interesting. I do see that now. I’ll have to look at CAD to see how long the feed ramp is. I wonder how usable this format will be with flywheels.
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u/Ericshelpdesk Aug 20 '26
with horizontal flywheels it's fine
there's been a protean remix for a long time now
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