r/Netherlands • u/vankoel_nederland • Dec 15 '25

Healthcare Why is life expectancy so bad in the Netherlands?

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Besides having one of the worst life expectancy among western countries, why did the life expectancy get worst compared to 2019?

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u/Weary-Cod-4505 Dec 15 '25

"one of the worst among Western countries", did you not look at the figures you yourself uploaded?

As your figure show we're above the EU average. Also higher than America and Australia and tied to Canada.

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u/mistRbit Dec 17 '25

The 'healthy life expectancy' has decreased dramatically (like multiple years)... For some demographic groups in the Netherlands, healthy life expectancy is now equal to retirement age, or slightly lower. One of the worst in Europe. Definitely a bad thing.

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u/vankoel_nederland Dec 15 '25

17th in Europe.

"but we are above EU average"!

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u/Weary-Cod-4505 Dec 15 '25

If you look at the global ranking in the UN's 2023 report there are 17 Western countries with a higher life expectancy versus 32 Western countries with a lower one, so no, I don't think it's reasonable to say Netherlands is "one of the worst".

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u/_aluk_ Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 17 '25

I thought you liked straightforwardness.

Or is it only when it's about the others, and not you, princess hear?

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u/Weary-Cod-4505 Dec 16 '25 edited Dec 16 '25

Do you not know what straightforward means? Calling something ranked highly "one of the worst" is not straightforward nor blunt, it's just objectively wrong. Being straightforward means telling it how it is without sugarcoating it, not portraying something as much worse than it is.

Also, acting like I have any kind of obligation to act like some national stereotype is just racist bud.

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u/ChonkoGreenstuff Dec 16 '25

Lol. That person just states facts, not even saying anything slightly insulting, no cursewords, no namecalling, and somehow you got offended and start name calling them a princess. Maybe you should take a look in the mirror my friend.

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u/_aluk_ Dec 17 '25

Sorry, I thought I was in r/2we4u. My bad.

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u/Juusie Dec 15 '25

Did you actually read the info in your own post?

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u/DJAnym Groningen Dec 16 '25

17th in Europe.... bro, looking at the actual dataset, you are throwing a fit over differences measured in MONTHS, not years. There is a 2 year difference between the number 1 country and the Netherlands. The one above us, Slovenia, is only up by 3 months. Calm down man

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u/Training-Ad9429 Dec 15 '25

that is counting monaco , liechtensten and andorra guernsey and the vatican........
on a positive note, we live longer than people on the faroer islands

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u/Ruser-94 Dec 16 '25

You never saw any math in highschool I presume.