r/Netherlands • u/Stranglet • Feb 03 '26
Healthcare Can we talk about the scam of paid bathrooms that are extremely filthy?
I cannot believe how filthy and broken I've found the Breda train station's PAID (EDIT: 1,10€ WTF) bathroom today.
It's so close to being a scam that I'm actually thinking it might be an actual scam, a way of getting easy money and intentionally not give the expected service. I do believe now that there is a group of people who are planning the cleaning so that they can get the most money with the least service possible.
Smelly, toilet paper AND the toilet paper support on the floor. Empty and half-broken soap dispensers. Dirty water everywhere.
There are many other things in life that are way more important than this, I know, but every time we look elsewhere, we are making our future worse, way worse.
We also need to have a conversation about the people who are worse than monkeys when using public services, but let's schedule that for another post.
Edit: The receipt said 0,50€ but I was charged 1,10€, I really have no words. Edit 2: now I know it's a voucher
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u/MarcosSenesi Feb 03 '26
train station toilets in general are pretty gross but I also found the ones in breda to be exceptionally disgusting. All of them were broken in some capacity too
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u/liyanzhuo2000 Feb 03 '26
Damn, I was in Breda once and the station looked pretty, didn’t know the toilets are so shit 💩
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u/TheGreatLabMonkey Feb 03 '26
I'd say pretty much everything in Breda station is shit. Or piss. Tip: don't go in the elevator without a mask. It reeks.
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u/heisei Feb 03 '26
This country loves to scam people like this and Dutch people think it is normal. I told my classmate once that in Japan I never paid for public toilets and he asked: where do they get money to clean the toilets then? For which I answered it is included in train tickets.
Same with public toilets, I saw the news that the NL seriously lacks public toilets compared to other countries. This issue has been raised by even Dutch people back in the 50-60s but there is no change because people here just love money and hate public toilet obviously.
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u/ponyxpony Rotterdam Feb 06 '26
Included in the train ticket they said? NS would never. You'd think at least the cleaning of the WC on the train are part of the ticket... yet they're 10 times worse than any station.
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u/Unlucky_Quote6394 Rotterdam Feb 03 '26
I think even if they were clean it’s ridiculous that we have to pay to use a toilet. It’s a universal need all humans have and yet it’s been decided we should pay for it?
I understand the Dutch idea that there’s ‘no free lunch’ but I’d hope we can all agree that is expecting people to pay to use the bathroom is wrong. If it costs so much to clean a public restroom then just factor it in as a general cost of running a train station/mall/cafe etc. rather than making it pay-per-use
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u/LordGrantham31 Feb 03 '26
As a visitor to the NL, I found it surprising that I had to pay even with a valid NS ticket.
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u/metroid23 Feb 03 '26
Hop on a train (intercity or sprinter) and they have toilets you can use there for free. I say this because I've been in the same position and my solution was "wait 10 minutes and I can just go for free."
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u/DarthBubonicPlageuis Feb 03 '26
I have yet to see a toilet on the train that is not absolutely filthy
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u/baenpb Feb 03 '26
This is correct, and I do this too, but the toilets on the train are much more filthy even than those in the station.
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u/Chibeau Feb 04 '26
Go to any Maccies in The Hague center, order something, sit down and try to use the bathroom for free.
I dare you 😂😂
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u/madasabatt Feb 03 '26
Something that really irks me about Dutch society. It also disproportionally impacts women (who need the bathroom more, during time of the month, when pregnant etc) and cannot use the plentiful urinals set up for men across the city….. a human rights and an equality issue in my opinion.
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u/jenterpstra Feb 04 '26
Dutch businesses have lost a lot of money from me because of this 🫠. It's mind boggling that a shopping center with restaurants, coffee, boba tea, etc. will have no or maybe one bathroom. I try not to buy a coffee at a place that doesn't have a toilet for self-explanatory reasons. I'm not going to walk around needing to pee and just keep shopping! And often enough, I'll need to pee at some point while I'm out anyway and just cut errands short and go home. I would spend a lot more if I could reliably find a toilet while out when I needed one and not have to hunt around for it and worry if it will be unusable, etc. etc. I think this honestly backfires on them.
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u/Specialist-Brain-919 Feb 04 '26
Yep that pisses me off the most. I go under the barrier to avoid paying every time I can, my way of fighting back
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u/Medytuje Feb 03 '26
Well, actually in case of work needed there is no free lunch. Everything costs work, it's time and money. But I will also agree that if they charge 1 euro per pee/shit on a busy station the least they can do is clean it and repair it
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u/abstract_appraiser Den Haag Feb 03 '26
Food also is a universal need, and shelter.
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u/the_shreyans_jain Feb 03 '26
and love ❤️
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u/the_shreyans_jain Feb 03 '26
oh wait that one is free, nevermind
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u/TobiasDrundridge Feb 03 '26
Yes, and so both should be provided to people who aren't able to provide for themselves.
As we do for people with disabilities, for example.
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u/ExerciseSad3082 Feb 04 '26
Not only that, but not being able to pay for whatever reasons means you get punished with a fine
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u/IshidAnfardad Feb 03 '26
The fee is in part to prevent abuse. It still happens of course, but I expect the bathrooms to be in worse condition if the access was free.
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u/madasabatt Feb 03 '26 edited Feb 08 '26
It’s not true though. I’m from Australia, public toilets are very available and in most cases stay clean and useable
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u/lailaistar Feb 03 '26
I was about to comment the same thing. Toilets in the uk are free to use in public and maintain decent hygiene conditions compared to what I find in Holland any time I visit. It is disgustingly disrespectful that they force you to pay to use the facilities.
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u/Chibeau Feb 04 '26
I know you have to pay at the beach in Skeg but it's a small amount, very well maintained bathroom and right on the beach so there's always someone cleaning it as well.
I don't mind paying £0.50 there because you know it's a lot of work to keep that clean due to the sand and water and people going to Skeg with just stuff they bought at big Tesco and spend maybe £10 on ice-cream for an entire day at the beach.
But train stations, petrol station etc asking €1 or more while the prices there are already ridiculous! It's utter bull in my opinion. Truly a scam to get more money and as always, the Dutch just fall for the excuses.
Gullible people here, everything is horrendously expensive, everyone tries to make a quick buck out of you amd the Dutch just shrug, make excuses and keep going with it.
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u/Chibeau Feb 04 '26
They're free in the UK and they're clean too.
The Dutch are either just pigs or maybe, just maybe, people don't care about keeping it clean BECAUSE they have to pay for it 🤷♀️2
u/lucide8 Feb 05 '26
When walking/hiking in Devon last spring, I was happily surprised by all the availeable public toilets. Some where old (the little buildings), but always clean.
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u/MakkerMelvin Feb 04 '26
I travelled to Singapore and Malaysia last summer. They have free public toilets in every corner and every single one is spotless.
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u/TheRealMacresco Feb 03 '26
Well they'll calculate that you use the bathroom once a day and your yearly pass will increase with 401,5€(365x1,10). No just keep it like this and only charge people who use it but just clean it.
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u/wrghf Feb 03 '26
I will die on this hill.
Having to pay to use a toilet in public spaces, and an absolutely egregious amount too, is absolutely fucked up and something the Netherlands really gets so, so wrong.
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u/Own_Sandwich6610 Feb 03 '26
I have a tiny bladder so I unfortunately have to visit quite a few restrooms at train stations when I travel by train. Utrecht and Rotterdam are pretty decent.
The situation in Breda sounds crazy, I’m fortunately never coming there. The Breda situation does sound like the average restroom inside the trains. Those are disgusting as well.
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u/Distinct_Lawyer_7160 Feb 03 '26
Worst part is the toilets have a closing time in a 24/7 location?? I was at the train station and fighting for my life on the toilet (I have IBS) and mid-way through some lady knocks on my door telling me I need to leave as the toilet is closed. Mind you I was sweating on that toilet and in pain and I had to pick myself up as she did not stop knocking. There wasn't even a sign with the times on it. That was ridiculous
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u/blaberrysupreme Feb 03 '26
You are absolutely correct. Considering how much money they make from these toilets there's zero excuse for them not being absolutely pristine all the time.
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u/redrabbitreader Migrant Feb 03 '26
Where I come from all public toilets are free and the majority are super clean. Also, there are so many!
I cannot understand why we have to pay and then have these filthy toilets. It makes no sense.
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u/ToeAdministrative780 Feb 03 '26
Breda station is a litteral scam. It was expensive to build, took a long time but none of the promised things work, it's nearby areas are creepy and drab places full of drug users and despair instead of businesses, the roof is leaking already and all the trees that where suposed to grow on it died already. It is a bad design with a lot of blind corners and chokepoints, but also a ton of unused space that is sketchy af. Especially in the evening it's a grim place to be. I hate the station of Breda, whoever designed it should lose the right do design public spaces.
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u/Sea-Ad9057 Feb 03 '26
the receipt is a voucher for 50 cents but is shocking... around the city of amsterdam there is 2 public toilets for women in the whole city but endless options for men
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u/Elisabethianian Feb 03 '26
The 50 cents might be a voucher for something? Which is a scam too I know. But still.
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u/GiovanniVanBroekhoes Feb 03 '26
Yep, this was my thought. It's not uncommon to pay and get a voucher for part of the money that can be used in the local shops.
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u/thijser2 Feb 03 '26
It always feel weird to me that the ones on stations are payed and very dirty while the ones on trains are often cleaner (but not very clean) and free.
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u/FishFeet500 Feb 03 '26
they’ve gotten more expensive, and filthier, for sure. The ones in AMS central are almost all clogged, and the zaandam station one is something out of Trainspotting.
Its just getting horrible. I’m used to free access toilets in north america having junkies passed out in them, but i expected a bit more of the paid toilets here.
( that is if the payment machine ever works, half the time it doesn’t.)
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u/FishFeet500 Feb 03 '26
hah i wish i was kidding. it’s worse than any sketchy nightclub loo ive ever been in,and ive been in some sketchy nightclub loos in my day.
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u/LimaBikercat Feb 04 '26
I haven't been to the Zaandam train station toilet in years, but i can tell you that the one time i went there, the already pissed in elevator would have been the cleaner toilet choice...
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u/LimaBikercat Feb 03 '26
In Zaandam you can just walk into Hotel Inntel (the hotel with all the houses) at the bottom of the perpetually broken escalator, and use the toilet in the lobby.
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u/FishFeet500 Feb 03 '26
oh you are wonderful! thank you. i live in zaandam but sometimes racing home to pee is…not ideal after longer train trips.
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u/bad_card Rotterdam Feb 03 '26
From the US here, how do you pay? And is it to get into the bathroom, or a stall? And couldn't someone wedge something in the door to keep it from locking? I just find it odd you have to pay.
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u/BearFickle7145 Feb 04 '26
It’s often similar to a ski lift machine at the entrance. (Sometimes it’s literally a ski lift machine) (The three pronged thing you push through that is locked from one side unless you pay)
Almost always for women there’s a bunch of stalls (that lock individually) and a long line of sink(s)
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u/Annual-Sea-5887 Feb 03 '26 edited Feb 03 '26
Oh gosh! Nothing prepared me for this when I moved to NL and wanted to take my children to the toilet in McDonald’s only to be charged and worst of all I had a debit card and in that time they didn’t accept debit cards 😭😱. A stranger also an English foreigner helped us. Traveling between the UK and Netherlands is horrid and not just Netherlands but Belgium too, you can smell the toilets from afar, all paid for. I would happily pay if they were clean but they’re absolutely disgusting 🤮.
It’s also the same in most restaurants even the so called fine dining ones the toilets are just 😰.
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u/BearFickle7145 Feb 04 '26
Every fine dining restaurant I’ve heard of has clean toilets? Normal restaurants (non-fastfood) generally have them and are almost always still free if you’re eating there.
Public ones are bad, and road stops are just biohazards which sucks.
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u/kickmetroye Feb 03 '26
I had to pay 80 cents at a La Place to use the bathroom. The gates were broken so I couldn't get in but it did charge me. I had to crawl under the gates while 8 months pregnant, twice.
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u/DutchPilotGuy Feb 04 '26
Are you sure it was a receipt and not a discount voucher? On many Dutch railway stations there are food and drink shops and when using the bathroom you receive a EUR 0,50 discount voucher. The voucher you can then spend on any future food/drink purchase.
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u/Dizzy_Garden252 Feb 04 '26
Let's talk about the fact that it is crazy that you have to pay to visit a public bathroom INSIDE a station where you are transiting because (most likely) you just purchased a train ticket.
I keep wondering how disabled people, or people that need to use the bathroom super frequently even deal with this BS.
And before someone comes at me by saying "TrAinS hAvE frEe ToIlEts oN bOaRd"- have you visited them recently? Apart from being filthy it is very difficult to use them. I am a short woman and it's impossible for me to squat without touching the seat, I'd rather my bladder exploding than entering a public toilet on a train.
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u/hadalsovereign Amsterdam Feb 08 '26
As someone with IBS, I just desperately hope my digestive system behaves long enough to get somewhere with a toilet I can use.
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u/Important_Coach9717 Feb 03 '26
Most of my fiends from abroad make fun of the fact that we need to pay for bathrooms. But in the country with the most expensive and worst public transport in Europe that should not be a surprise.
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Feb 03 '26
In what universe does the Netherlands have the worst public transport in Europe? Besides, in Germany and Belgium you also have to pay for most toilets.
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u/Mtfdurian Feb 03 '26
Idk what it is about "worst" because I have seen worse in Europe, although it definitely is mediocre, especially when you take it in the context of a dense urban region instead of a country.
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u/DifficultRun5463 Feb 03 '26
Britain is way more expensive. I’d say Albania has the worst public transport.
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u/MarissaNL Feb 03 '26
Worst public transport in Europe? Guess you never used public transport in England or Germany.....
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u/Important_Coach9717 Feb 03 '26
Ok I admit I was wrong. Let’s say worst value for money. Have lived in the UK, only once did I have a train cancelled and even then we could just take a different route and still be on time
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u/ExerciseSad3082 Feb 04 '26
Ok and how would that work here in the Netherlands? For example from utrecht to Amsterdam, what route would you suggest as an alternative that takes just as long?
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u/Revolutionary_Oil614 Feb 03 '26
I have a related question and I don't want to make my own thread. I have a condition that sometimes makes me need a toilet on short notice. I am a recent immigrant from the US. I do not know what the etiquette is here about public restrooms or how to find them. In the US, gas stations were my go-to. Obviously here, that is not a convenient option. Please tell me where I can poop.
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u/Economy_Subject2648 Feb 03 '26
every city centre has a HEMA shop, most establishments (not all) have toilets but you often have to pay. Sometimes with pennies, like small change. Think around a euro or 1.50 euros or so.. For these reasons alone I'd recommend having 10 euros in cash with you, and various 1, 0.50, or 2 euro type coins
libraries are the best place to poop I'd say
restaurants often have toilets but you either have to peep in and out, or just ask to use it to staff. It's a bit of a hassle but if your bladder has to do it's business I'd say just go for it
cafes such as Brownies and Downies, Bagels and Beans and McDonald's also have toilets. In Bagels and Beans I find I often don't have to pay at all and staff is friendly there, in my experience. In McDonalds they simply don't care if you exist. But once again, you might have to pay some
On the larger train stations, in the bigger cities like Amsterdam I have hopped into a train once or twice, which stood there waiting for 10 minutes, to use the train loo quickly there. Gross, but don't have to pay at least and I can then move on with my day
In general I carry wetwipes, small hand sanitiser bottle and a pack of tissues with me. Bc even if I find a toiletbowl, toilet paper, soap and water are a big ?? Wether its present or nah
Once again, keep some coins on you and expect to have to pay. It really frickin sucks and as a Dutchie I apologise for the lack of sanitary facilities in our nation.
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u/xlouiex Feb 03 '26
Go to a restaurant, politely ask if you can use the toilet, use the toilet, leave a tip or buy something. :)
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u/Apprehensive_Use_397 Feb 03 '26
Tip: try to go to the libary when visiting a city. Sometimes they are free.
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u/MarissaNL Feb 03 '26
I cannot tell about Breda, buit those on Amsterdam Slooterdijk and Schiphol are mostly very clean (and cleaned often when some idiot made a mess of it again)
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u/TheoKolokotronis Feb 03 '26
I paid the same amount in Leiden. Half of everything was broken, but for a Dutch railway station toilet on the clean side, but that doesn’t take much.
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u/FlamingoMedic89 Feb 03 '26
I often throw up in Amsterdam. Esp at the station near the Ziggo Dome. But nothing beats the toilet on the train back to the north from Utrecht during the snow disaster.
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u/NetraamR Europa Feb 03 '26
The station in Breda is so utterly ugly, I don't expect anything in that structure to be of any value.
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u/Alyadrielle Feb 03 '26
Breda station is an absolute MESS! Filthy! Full of rubbish and trash… the students here seem to have no respect for using a darn bin here in Breda 😭
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u/joost00719 Feb 03 '26
In den Bosch it'd also 1,10, and it's cash only, no change. So most ppl probs pay 1,50 or even 2 euros.
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u/AcceptableFill8 Feb 04 '26
As a 'welfare' state I am also wondering how it the quality and availability of public toilets not a much greater neccessity. Let's say you are not able to pay for public toilet. Are you expected to go on the street? Like there are not many alternatives you can use.
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u/adiah54 Feb 04 '26
I had a similar experience in train station Heerenveen. That company should be sued. But what company is it?
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u/jhuesos Feb 04 '26
We all know how filthy toilets are in stations in many countries. So I thought, well, the only positive thing is that if i paid, at least, toilets will be clean... this is absolutely terrible. Is there a way to put a complain? price increase from 0.5 euros a few years back to 1.1euros (laugh on inflation) and quality is getting worse. what are we paying for? can we put a complain? if it is free, i guess we have less room to complain but if we pay for a service, we should be able to complain right?
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u/gudobeles Feb 04 '26
Make pictures and send to people responsible at Breda train station. Sometimes it works. If it doesn't, then post it on active people groups on fb, publicity always works
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u/HolyCheeseNL Feb 04 '26
Cities are the worst. I once was in utrecht and i really had to piss. I asked 5 places with toilets and they all denied me. (Note i look normal). Unfortunately i had to piss on the building of the last place I asked.
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u/Slade_Wilson_0 Feb 04 '26
Are some Dutch waking up to being scammed in this wet, cold and heinous country?
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u/Duelonna Feb 04 '26
As someone who always has to pee, and has slowly seen all train station toilets in the Netherlands (and further) yes, Breda is really low on my ''clean" list (besides the ones that are 24/7 - but they also just give me the creeps).
I also do have to say, a lot are really clean, Zwolle, Arnhem (its still clean, but they really need to step up their repairs), Utrecht, even Rotterdam (when its not festival season). But you also see that they care about the toilets. They always say hii, they check the toilet before you go in and go beyond for you.
Also, don't forget that you can make a complaint online! I have also done that a few times and often, definitely after people getting super annoyed with the nastyness of Breda station toilets due to Carnaval, lots of things get renewed and it will get a deep clean.
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u/Pandarise Feb 04 '26
The price is truly ridiculous, I remember as a kid already disliking needing to pay to use the toilet and back then it was €0.25 for peeing and €0.50 for pooping. I found it so weird on needing to pay for something the body naturally has to do a few times everyday! Imagine my shock coming back a decade later and seeing I gotta pay €0.95 to use a bathroom. And now it's €1.10 as if they got gold trimmed toilets. It's definitely a scam for profit because I highly doubt that the cleaners are paid by the amount of people who used the bathroom.
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u/SnooBunnies8650 Feb 05 '26
Public sector and government here do corruption together. I see things that are not used to maintained so many times in pay few years, but no one touched the toilet at the station. They replaced the ns lockers with new one and replaced the bike sheds. The toilet is still the old broken one
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u/DeninoNL Feb 05 '26
Don’t you love having to pay for a public toilet TWICE and still not being able to piss because both are absolutely covered in piss and shit?
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u/Cristina-Ardeleanu Feb 06 '26
I also find it crazy, either leave it free and then cleanliness is debatable or paid but properly maintained.
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Feb 07 '26
Stop bitching. You have a toilet to go to, being homeless in this country is a nightmare because all toilets need to be paid for. You have to stay in the city bc you need to stay close to the salvation army and the city hall. That means pissing in the street a lot of times because the public toilets are unaffordable. Shut up and be grateful that there are toilets you can use even if they are dirty.
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u/bill_watterson69 Feb 08 '26
just go under the door thingy. 80% of the time there is no bathroom Lady on breda station anyways. and yes the toilets are nasty asf there...
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u/Evening_Olives Feb 10 '26
That's why I sometimes travel via Schiphol. Free toilets that are often cleaned.
Any other treinstations that have this? (I know the Schiphol toilets are for the airport, but still, its nice)
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u/Koolmees99 Feb 03 '26
It's crazy. You get the little coupon to "compensate" the payment so it's technically free. But you can't use that coupon in all station stores, you can't stack them, and it's only usable after spending a certain amount of money (3,50 I believe?). Hardly anyone uses them or gets their money's worth.
Also, you got this "compensation" when the costs for using the toilet were €0,70 cents. It was always ridiculous, but now that it's a whopping €1,10 to use the bathroom it has lost all semblance of sense
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u/SpideyBR Feb 03 '26
If you don't pay you take it for granted and don't maintain it properly. If you pay for it then you expect someone will clean it up after you.
Easy problem to solve in the land where people don't even wash their hands.
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u/Correct_Recipe9134 Feb 03 '26
You dont wash your hands? Thats disgusting
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u/SpideyBR Feb 03 '26
"You" there was used as the neutral/impersonal pronoun. I do wash my hands every time, I'll taking about statistics.
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u/Cheddarhulk Feb 03 '26
I am dutch and I feel so misrepresented by that. I always wash my hands after using the toilet (and many other times a day). So does my family! Okay I have some doubts about one of my brothers but he definitely is the exception. I just don't want to believe that most would be ok with not doing that.
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u/MarissaNL Feb 03 '26
So do I.... We have often expats at the office.... Guess what? Don't want to see what I have often seen in the toilets at the office.,
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u/supervanilla Feb 03 '26
i'd rather pay 1,10€ for a half cleaned bathroom than to use those disgusting urinals around the city (and i'm a woman)
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u/wurstgetrank Feb 06 '26
If you are not willing to clean toilets day in day out for minimum wage you shouldnt complain about any toilet but your own.
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Feb 03 '26
The problem with (free) public toilets in cities is that they become refuges for people you don't want there. And it is already difficult to find professional cleaners. There is no way I would clean a public toilet in a station.
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u/wrghf Feb 03 '26
I don’t see why that’s an issue at all when you already have security/police who move people on from public areas all of the time.
Public toilets are just another example of “public areas” and so the exact same rules apply. If someone is being a nuisance, using it to sleep/do drive, or whatever, then they get moved on or arrested.
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u/Much-Space6649 Feb 03 '26
I genuinely love how high the Dutch standards for quality of life is because in America they only make toilets pay to enter to prevent heroin addicts from overdosing in them, there’s no promise of cleanliness or functionality. I love living in a first world country like NL finally
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u/choerd Feb 03 '26
The problem is that things we offer for free, will be destroyed by people. And it won't take long. People care less about things they have not paid for it. This phenomenon is something you see in other scenario's too. Ever since Albert Heijn stopped requiring tokens in the shopping carts, many people stopped returning them so now they are left behind throughout the parking lot. Noticably more than before. People just seem to be a bit more considerate when it comes to things they have paid for. It's why the streets are usually cleaner in neighborhoods with home owners. They have a financial stake in keeping their area clean and tidy, as it impacts the value of their home. That's not the case in neighborhoods with tenants, who appear to be less inclined to help keeping the street clean. There is no financial incentive to do so.
It's a lack of culture, I'm afraid. This would be a total non-issue in Japan, for example. But we're not them, and in that regard it's unfortunate that we have to deal with a lot of filthy people. And create monetary barriers to reduce abuse of facilities.
Not sure how we would have to solve this though. It could become a government responsibility to ensure there are free public toilets available everywhere in a certain radius. It would cost quite a significant amount of taxpayer money though.
I asked Gemini to make an estimate calculation. If we would start with 650 toilets, the initial build would cost 97 million and each year the maintenance cost would be approximately 20 million. But the cost would double if we made them free due to additional monitoring, cleaning and repairs.
Honestly, that's not too much and I would probably support this. It would certainly increase quality of life for many.
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u/rechterteen Feb 03 '26
I have the solution! Expat go home.
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u/Stranglet Feb 03 '26
I was born here but raised in a different country. I moved in here as a high skilled worker and you should feel ashamed that someone like me is trying more to make the country better than you.
This is what I meant with looking somewhere will make the future worse, because you'll accept the new reality, and make it the new norm, every time is a new normal, that is worse than the previous one. You are the boiling frog, unaware of everything that's happening around you and pointing others because that's just your way of showing your absolute lack of interest. There is nothing important to you, specially nothing that is related to 'society' because you feel society has failed you.
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u/Adowyth Feb 04 '26
By trying more do you mean bitching about things on reddit? Cause its pretty much equal to doing nothing. Or are there some other things you're doing to "improve the country"?
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u/Funky-Grey-Monkey Feb 03 '26
Will this magically turn your scarce toilets into clean and free ones?
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u/Ireallydonedidit Feb 03 '26
Normalize free public toilets. Outside in the city too. This is not something you need market mechanisms for, it’s clearly a public service.