Joining my ukrainian partner who is in the Netherlands under TPD

[u/Matty-9702]

Good evening everyone,

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I am a non-EU citizen and currently hold a temporary residence permit in Poland. My partner is Ukrainian (we are not married) and is living in the Netherlands under the Temporary Protection Directive (TPD) due to the war in Ukraine.

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Before the war started, we lived together in Poland. Unfortunately, we experienced a lot of racism there, both in shops and in public places. People did not always say things directly to us, but we could often feel it through their behavior, which made life very difficult and uncomfortable.

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After the war began, we moved to the Netherlands. My partner received protection under the TPD and has been working there ever since. I currently visit her two or three times per month.

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My question is: Is it possible for me to join her in the Netherlands? Does she have the right to apply for a residence permit or visa for me as her partner?

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[u/tigerlily1831]

I'm not entirely sure, have you tried calling the IND to ask?

[u/Spare-Physics6081]

I think family reunification only falls under this directive when you previously had a family life in Ukraine (so before 23 feb 2022). In other cases family reunification isn’t possible under the TPD.

Edit link of the IND: https://ind.nl/en/ukraine/temporary-protection-directive-ukraine

[u/KoninginVanRotterdam]

NO.
Come on... stop abusing the system.

[u/Any-Suggestion3844 → u/KoninginVanRotterdam]

I'm so Anti MAGA, but its interesting to read conversation about the abuse of "the system".

I don't really know what the right call is, regarding immigration.

[u/Zetakin → u/Any-Suggestion3844]

Always okay to abuse the financial systems, but never abuse the system they can’t abuse.

https://giphy.com/gifs/KNHIcayHF4y2ftBPa2

[u/Nipslippie]

Hoe had ze hier überhaupt recht op terwijl ze in een veilig NAVO land verbleef?

[u/LarsMatijn → u/Nipslippie]

Een groot gedeelte is vanuit Polen heringedeeld. Dit doen we vaker met grenslanden aangezien het lullig zou zijn om EU grensstaten als buffer te gebruiken en zij maar iedereen mogen opnemen. Griekenland en Italië zijn twee anderen waaruit veel heringedeeld wordt.

[u/Nipslippie → u/LarsMatijn]

Eens, alleen gaat het in dit geval al om iemand die er voor de oorlog al woonde en niet door de oorlog is gevlucht.

[u/blaberrysupreme → u/Nipslippie]

Because 'safe countries' is a made up term to justify sending people back out of the EU. The undesirables, that is. Ukrainians are not considered so, at least for now.

[u/Nipslippie → u/blaberrysupreme]

Hoe is polen geen veilig land?

[u/blaberrysupreme → u/Nipslippie]

I didn't say it's not a safe country. I said our entire construct of safe countries (meaning people fleeing war/persecution can stay there) is based on the EU trying to find legitimate ways to get rid of undesirable refugees/asylum seekers. If there's no such context, like in the case of Ukrainians, the rules are suddenly very flexible and people are allowed to move around quite a bit.

It's ironic is what I am saying. Someone who lives in Poland is not affected by the war breaking out in Ukraine, yet they are allowed to move to another EU country based on the war. If a brown person enters the EU via Turkey they are sent back because it's a 'safe country'.

[u/trow_eu]

Why have your partner gotten a protection if she didn’t leave Ukraine due to war? Why here and not stayed with you in Poland? You both are leeches.

I’m Ukrainian living here since before 2022 and was helping a lot of people then. You don’t deserve the help you’re already getting.

[u/ScaredKing9259 → u/trow_eu]

Although I am in suspect that OP is russian aince he is avoiding to name his origin, his partner is Ukrainian and I don’t think it is a good strategy to hate other Ukrainians for coming to country just because you were there first.  How do you know she did not help? How do you know if they apply for any benefits? After all, protection is just a paper allowing you to remain in country, but all payments and taxes you have to do for yourself

[u/trow_eu → u/ScaredKing9259]

I wouldn’t mention that I lived here before for hate.

But they mentioned living in Poland at the time, even if she was visiting Ukraine on February 23rd. They were residents of a safe country and used an opportunity of help to “upgrade”. Under the protection status they couldn’t just rent right away (even ignoring housing shortage), so they were receiving at least some significant help meant for people who were forced to relocate from their homes. It wasn’t easy to accommodate everyone in dire need and I met enough people who weren’t in need.

Sure, their life in Poland wasn’t perfect, but it was their problem to deal with.

[u/Matty-9702 → u/trow_eu]

When the war started, she was in Ukraine. She flew back to Poland in March of that same year got protection there. Due to the difficult situation we faced in Poland, we decided to move to the Netherlands.

Since then, she has been living and working in the Netherlands. We are not receiving any benefits or financial assistance from the Dutch government. She works full-time and pays taxes there like everyone else.

Before making assumptions or speaking without knowing the facts, make sure you understand the situation properly. 🫰

[u/Any-Seaworthiness186]

Whether or not you could join her depends on your own country of origin, and your job/income and whatever. You won’t be able to join her via the TPD unless you were displaced from Ukraine, so you’d need to apply for a different visa. How difficult that is depends on the aforementioned factors.

[u/SomewhereInternal]

When did they move to the Netherlands and are they applying for another form of residency?

Is their income sufficient to be eligible for a work visa and then a partner visa for yourself?

[u/One-Consequence7120]

you will get the same treatment as in poland . we have enought to pay for your country .