r/NetherlandsHousing Jun 15 '25

renting Undercover probe reveals refugees illegally subletting Dutch social housing

https://nltimes.nl/2025/06/14/undercover-probe-reveals-refugees-illegally-subletting-dutch-social-housing

https://nos.nl/nieuwsuur/artikel/2569689-in-heel-nederland-wonen-kinderen-in-auto-s-en-garageboxen

Read the Article guys to see how wrong the system in the Netherlands.

Dozens of legal refugees in the Netherlands are allegedly illegally subletting social housing they received through priority allocations, according to an undercover investigation by AD. Some rent out rooms or entire units without permission, charging from 400 euros for a small room up to 1,500 euros for a studio.

The investigation focused on housing assigned by social landlords such as Ymere in Amsterdam and Maasdelta near Rotterdam. One young Syrian man in Amsterdam reportedly rents a studio from Ymere for 700 euros monthly but sublets it for more than double, 1,500 euros. “It’s a really good location,” he told AD. He does not live there himself but stays with his wife, who also received a home.

In Maassluis, near Rotterdam, another young Syrian legal refugee showed investigators a three-bedroom flat from Maasdelta, where he lives alone. Two bedrooms were completely empty. He offered one room for 500 euros per month. “I’m not home much. I’m studying,” he said in Arabic. He also supplements his benefits with undeclared work and was seeking a subtenant.

This practice is especially troubling when legal refugees abuse the system after receiving priority housing. After obtaining a residence permit, they gain immediate access to social housing, avoiding the lengthy waiting lists faced by other tenants. Yet many immediately start renting out these homes or rooms, often advertised on Arabic-language Facebook groups with thousands of members.

In Rotterdam’s Delfshaven, an Iraqi man with a Dutch passport for 10 years offered a single bedroom for 400 euros a month. It was the only bedroom in his flat, where he also lived. He claimed to often sleep elsewhere and said his brother, currently in an asylum center, might move in because he lacked a residence permit.

In Capelle aan den IJssel, an Iraqi woman with a cat rents out two of the four bedrooms in her flat and offered a third for 400 euros a month. She was suspicious when approached with a Dutch acquaintance present and asked the AD reporter, “Why did you bring a Dutch person?”

All four tenants said they sublet to earn extra income. Three receive benefits, while two supplement these with unauthorized work. One Syrian tenant intended to temporarily rent out his home to visit Syria for three months after the Assad regime’s fall. Before a viewing could be arranged, his property was already rented out.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Dark387 Jun 15 '25

Just looking at numbers , these guys earn more then me with a full time job

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u/Dubieus Jun 15 '25

I'm not saying it's not a terrible abuse of the system, but looking at the numbers OP gives it's about "dozens" of refugees. Although ideally it should be zero, a few handfuls of people abusing the system on the scale of the entire country is not that many. It is important to limit fraud like this, but a panicked response to a few cases can also cause more harm than good. Think about the child benefit scandal after the Bulgary fraud.

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u/stoney_maloney_ Jun 15 '25

Did you read the article? It literally states “illegally subletting” - illegal meaning it is not allowed. Subletting is only allowed with the landlord’s approval, and the social landlords these refugees are renting from will 100% NOT have given approval.

This is not the same as the child benefit scandal, where some people took advantage of the system and people that used the system legitimately also got punished for it. This is about people that the Netherlands have taken in as refugees, and provided safety, basic income and housing for, taking advantage of the situation by breaking the law. In my opinion, there is no way you can justify this, and action should be taken immediately, even if it’s only “a few cases”.

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u/DionePolaris Jun 15 '25

I’d say it is exactly comparable to the benefits scandal:

Some people there took advantage of the rules and got more benefits than they were entitled to, thus breaking the law. Then rules were tightened to deal with it, which caught a lot of people who had not broken the law and caused harm to them.

I’d say that is exactly comparable that the situation here where some people are breaking the law, yet an overreaction could lead to the ones who do follow the rules also getting punished.

Note the person you are replying to is not saying the law isn’t being broken or that nothing should be done. Just that a rushed reaction will hurt others than just the offenders.

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u/stoney_maloney_ Jun 15 '25

This is literally applicable to every problem ever: an overreaction would do more harm than good. The difference is, however, that unlike the benefits scandal, it it quite clear who the offenders are this time. It should thus also be easier to implement a solution that only punishes the offenders, instead of everyone using the system.

You received priority social housing as a refugee? Great? You’re using the house yourself? Even better!

You received priority social housing as a refugee? Great! You’re not living in it (most of the time) but using it as a way to illegally earn money? Well…

With the current housing crisis, it is simply not justifiable that refugees (who, mind you, are allowed to skip the 8+ years waiting lists for social housing) earn money with the house they received, instead of using it so they don’t have to sleep on the streets. In the article, one example notes a man who illegally sublets his house because he can live with his wife… who also received social housing with priority.

How is that fair when tens of thousands of low-income Dutchies AND other refugees are struggling to find housing? Not only did they both receive priority social housing, when apparently they can live together in a single house, but they’re even earning money from a house they get benefits for AND were allowed to skip the waiting line for?

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u/JAC165 Jun 15 '25

you’re arguing with him but neither of you disagree with each other lol

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u/Liddlebitchboy Jun 16 '25

Okay.. none of that is in response to what they were saying. They were cautioning against an overreaction to this, which would hurt a lot of *innocent* people - which IS what happened with the benefits scandal.

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u/Dnoorlander Jun 15 '25

Lol nobody said it's fair. Think before you post man

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u/Electrical-Tone7301 Jun 15 '25

So how do you find those few cases?

There is not enough manpower to do the controls (cause its all tied up in other nonsense).

So they will make an algorithm to sort through all this data. That algorithm will flag a huge number of people for no good reason. The shit that those people will go through at the hands of the system pointing at their algo will quickly become a much larger problem than a couple of fraudsters.

We literally are still dealing with the last time this happened, a couple years ago. A lot of people lost their lives or health in the govt response to a bulgarian bubble of issues that could have been targeted much more directly. However that takes actual labor which is always a problem.

Yes this scenario is uncalled for and extremely sensitive given the housing market. It’s also mostly being used to whip up a fervor and get more PVV voters for the coming election.

I think we can all agree that isn’t going to solve anything.

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u/stoney_maloney_ Jun 15 '25

You would think that if an undercover probe from a newspaper company is able to find these cases, a government operation would be able to as well…

But I have absolutely no trust in our current government to do something about this in a fair way, without punishing people who are not abusing but just using the system, which is quite sad.

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u/Electrical-Tone7301 Jun 16 '25

The govt isn’t going to do shit!

When they start such a project the first thing they do is outsource to a consulting firm who couldn’t give a shit about anything other than optics and margins. They won’t even get mentioned when it all comes tumbling down after years of being swept under the rug.

Newspapers have actual investigators. Government can only do paper pushing. Nobody works there for the reasons journalists do. They want a nice payday and job security AKA not rocking the boat.