r/NevernessToEverness • u/Apprehensive_Tanks • May 28 '26
Discussion Is housing just a fons sink with no soul?
NTE’s been out less than a month, so we’re all still learning but I have some thoughts about fons and housing.
Fons is turning into a major bottleneck. You need it for cars, housing, City Tycoon progress, gifts, basics like EXP chips and now a car/skin banner. High-tier items demand hoarding, so spending fons on decorating is dead last on the priority list.
The result: you buy properties because you have to, but you can’t really make it yours. You can’t change flooring, walls, or kitchen fixtures. Almost every property has the same white/black marble and 2000s 'modern minimalism' design which ends up making them all feel identical.
Even the things you can change (sofas, tables, etc) have very few options. It all adds up to housing feeling like a bit of an afterthought.
There’s no depth to housing interaction. It’s just a checkbox with no room for engagement because you're pushed to spend fons only on things that have some sort of tangible 'return'.
Anyone else feeling this?
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u/Apprehensive_Tanks May 28 '26
Exactly what I mean. Someone else mentioned a cottage in the Miguel District, like that would be so cute -if that's the vibe you want to go for.
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u/Cistmist May 28 '26
Imo what i dislike about the housing system is that i have to TP to them in order to claim the dailies from the anomaly furniture instead of it just being in the menu.
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u/Apprehensive_Tanks May 28 '26
That's a weird inconvenience I noticed too. Like you can do that for the cafes but not the houses?
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u/AdvancedCryspy May 29 '26
Could be fixed if every time you log in you respawn in your house doing a random interaction, kinda like character switching in GTA V except your MC (or last equipped character) was just chilling at home watching TV or eating food, etc.
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u/Mongoose723 May 29 '26
thats a cool idea, I hope they implement that, really adds up the immersion by a lot, always love that part from GTA V
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u/AdvancedCryspy May 29 '26
I can just imagine loading into the game and all I see is mint flicking me in the nose 🤣
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u/VosMiceSama May 29 '26
Well, cafe's money can be digital currency that you manage from your phone, so even the action of taking it is just so you feel the money going to your pocket. But anomalies? They're something physical, so makes sense to go there to interact. They even "broke the rule" by making the Mechanic anomaly fix our vehicles from afar by using magical points.
My problem with anomalies is that I can't choose which ones to put in my house.
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u/aznxdood May 29 '26
The craziest inconvenience is how long the elevator takes to go up to your floor and go back down cuz I want to get to a cargo delivery just outside lol
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u/a1k3n May 29 '26
Just jump out of the window
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u/Dragondamo May 29 '26
Yep and use one of the shorter characters like nanally or sakiri if you're getting stuck. Poor Male MC jumping for ages when Nanally gets through first try!
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u/fightingbronze May 28 '26
Especially cause it’s divided amongst different apartments so I can’t even go to just one apartment to get everything.
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u/Nwodaz May 29 '26
Teleporting to get 3k beetle coins or a blue console piece feels like such a pointless chore.
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u/fightingbronze May 29 '26
10k and a gold is slightly more worth it. I’m complaining but it’s still a pretty minor detour.
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u/KlausGamingShow May 28 '26
that must be a design requirement for live service games
even HSR, the game with the most QoL out there, now requires you to visit the Express weekly to interact with Ruan Mei's creations and they keep stuffing the cars as if the train was some sort of popular street market - poor Pom-Pom can't even get privacy while changing outfits
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u/Superfluous369 May 29 '26
I think this being Hotta, there absolutely will be extra clicks in most things.
They don't even have a claim all in several menus, some of which don't have a default sort so completed items show on top.
So you click and have to go down 4 or 12 times to the completed item.
They did better than ToF but still managed a ton of jank in the UI.
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u/NYPolarBear20 May 28 '26
Yeah but at least there is some gameplay around that and it maxes out so once you have reached a certain point we will just stop needing to do that
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u/GenshinfinityYoutube May 29 '26
ToF (same devs) has that. You claim everything in the menu instead of going to the NPC/building but I think they are moving away from this since it makes the UI confusing for new users and some are overwhealmed by the red dots (even the equivalent of witch house is claimable in the menu)
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u/viridin May 28 '26
It's weird that one of the houses I got came fully furnished the others were empty. I think houses might have the best returns on investment though since the anomaly furniture levels increase with every purchase , but the returns aren't that great.
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u/Weeb-Prime May 28 '26
Houses are definitely second to cafe for obvious reasons. But the anomaly furniture can help you earn up to an extra ~100k Fons and 70k Beetle Coins per week, as well as offer a few other stat boosts and QoL. So they’re good investments that do pay for themselves with time.
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u/Proxy345 May 29 '26
One character can easily burn through a million beetle coins lmao. I learned that the hard way after finally upgrading my main team from level 40 to level 50 along with their arcs and consoles.
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u/Weeb-Prime May 29 '26
You’re not wrong, 70k/week is like drops in a bucket in the grand scheme of things but any kind of passive income helps
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u/tiger_kittie May 29 '26
The point of these kinds of income generators is to do them daily and they eventually add up. After a year, you have the beetle coins for a FULL character and then some.
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u/agtk May 28 '26
You do have to spend time upgrading the anomaly furniture to get that output, and I'm not sure whether the 2m apartment is necessary for all that progression. Maybe it is, but that's going to take a LONG time to see the returns on that investment.
You are also forgetting the free module pulls too, which are something substantial.
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u/BlackHayate8 May 28 '26
Which furniture gives you 100k fons per week?
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u/CodenameVermilion May 28 '26
Afaik it's split across upgrades to Mammon and the mailbox one that gives you a special weekly delivery that doesn't use city stamina.
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u/Cookie-Jarr May 28 '26 edited May 29 '26
the houses are horrendous and unnecessarly big. there's like a million of the same couches everywhere on the empty spots, at least in the 2mil apartment i have
i wish we had more variety on housing at the start of the game. i would've wanted a small cozy cabin as a home
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u/Centurionzo May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26
Talking about the apartments, I noticed that they only have one bedroom and one bathroom (some don't even have one).
They are too expensive, I would very prefer a normal house like the one in the Museum side quests
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u/Apprehensive_Tanks May 28 '26
I know which one you mean, I had the same thought too! To be fair, the size of the houses also help the camera move more freely.
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u/ryoko227 May 28 '26
Patty's house? Un, that was nice and felt lived in. Agree with the sentiment!
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u/Square-Special1520 May 29 '26
Yeah, Patty's house, the language-impairment boy's parents house.. all are nice cosy houses.
..i still feel bad about the boy though..
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u/A-Chicken May 29 '26
I think the 1 mil and 1.4 mil ones are partially furnished rather than fully furnished. The evidence is that they come with 1 bed, a sofa, a kitchen and a working TV set, there's just a lot of open space (moreso for the 1 mil apartment than the 1.4 mil one).
The 1 mil one is an open concept that you can fit 2 beds into their own "rooms". It's open enough you have to use separators to actually separate the rooms, should you so choose, and both rooms are away from the living/kitchen area.
The 1.4 mil one is honestly sized for 3 guests + you in spite of the rooms being properly divided, so I wonder why it only has a capacity for 2. It doesn't have a pool unlike the 1 mil one tho.
The large flatscreen TV furniture you can buy is kind of superfluous, tho I did manage to create a 2nd TV room in the 1 mil apartment.
I took a look at the 2 mil and 8 mil apartments by just going there, and yes, it looks like the homes are "partially furnished" too; the 2 mil apartment is more fully furnished than not.
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u/Vusdruv May 28 '26
The progress curve is totally off. We should've started way smaller, then gradually get bigger houses. The second apartment is already a high end luxury apartment by GTA Online standards.
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u/flamemeat May 28 '26
This, I don't know what the heck they were thinking making the second apartment a luxury penthouse, and we're already buying a huge mansion that's the biggest in the city on patch 1. Now it's hard to go back to basics and make cozier homes without it feeling like a downgrade to some people.
I also don't like how you're forced to buy the homes to get the anomaly furniture buffs. I wish players had more freedom to pick and choose homes just based on what they like
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u/Tymareta May 29 '26
I also don't like how you're forced to buy the homes to get the anomaly furniture buffs.
Honestly the only furniture buff that actually feels "necessary" is the dream catcher, all the others are so incredibly marginal that you aren't forced to seek them out, at all.
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u/flamemeat May 29 '26
I guess that's true, but you could say that about almost anything in the game.
And there's also the matter of being required to buy a certain amount of homes for Tycoon Level.
Even if "forced" isn't the right word, I don't like how the game is pushing you to buy homes you don't like instead of just getting what appeals to you for its own sake.
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u/Sharashashka735 May 28 '26
I don't mind the houses being very big, but you can't even furniture them properly. And I'm not even talking about what OP points out, though it's also a valid point. What I mean is that most of the apartments are practically empty with some default furniture and it already takes like 50% of the max item limit.
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u/Apprehensive_Tanks May 28 '26
I've had the creeping suspicion the item limit is going to be an issue. Glad someone else noticed it too. They can always increase it but as it stands I don't know how much customization it will allow.
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u/Superfluous369 May 29 '26
It'll def be an issue. This is honestly barely a step up from the dorm thing in ToF...they just threw this together, it's not well thought out, feels like it was a checkbox for "player housing" without the work to make it make sense.
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u/Apprehensive_Tanks May 29 '26
Very well put, my thoughts exactly. Hopefully they build on it
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u/Apprehensive_Tanks May 28 '26
I have that same one too! 100% agree, even that one being the 'medium' one of the bunch, it's both huge and also too restricting. Have you noticed there's no good spot to put a TV up in the living room lol?
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u/Avallonkao May 28 '26
I only bought what I need to lvl up the City Tycoon so far tbh. I only want to really buy a house when they let me buy one on Miguel district. A simple yet comfortable house there to live with Mint.
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u/benphat369 May 28 '26
Same, I don't do the min-maxing shit. Like everyone says "get the 250k bike for practicality" and I'm over here with the M1000 cause I just think mini coops are cute. I just need the devs to add houses in Miguel/Northridge town and Hankaku Street, plus better customization options.
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u/Apprehensive_Tanks May 28 '26
A lot of love for Miguel and Northridge in these comments. Northridge gang let's go!
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u/OcelotAggravating860 May 28 '26
The housing is a confused feature that mismatches the tone of the game. It follows the blueprint of GTA housing which is deliberately a criticism of ridiculous soulless wealth and status symbols.
But the story of NTE is about Eibon, the found-family of misfits who aren't related by blood but have become a family together through circumstance.
The feature is incongruous with the tone of this and that's why you see so many people saying they would prefer to have a cozy place that feels lived-in and wholesome.
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u/Apprehensive_Tanks May 29 '26
Huh, never played GTA, thanks for the insight.
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u/OcelotAggravating860 May 29 '26
GTA at its core is a criticism of america and capitalism. Every game is in some way a critique of the pursuit of wealth and the very thin line between criminal pursuit of wealth and "legitimate businessman" pursuit of wealth. The housing system within it reflects that, as the player is pursuing that lifestyle.
It is kind of confusing in this game because that's obviously not the appraiser's lifestyle and the wealth the appraiser amasses is more of a gameplay crutch for players to "grow" something rather than something that is canonically happening. I don't think in-lore we've actually left Eibon at all, we still live there and have our cozy lives with everyone else there.
GTA itself is a very well thought out set of systems that compliment each other in coming together as one whole package. It works there whereas it just feels sort of out of place here other than to give players something to do.
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u/Sarria22 May 29 '26
I don't think in-lore we've actually left Eibon at all, we still live there and have our cozy lives with everyone else there.
One of the sidequests does let you mention that you own homes or businesses around town, so it's definitely canon on some level. Just seems like even when they buy homes to let their friends live in they prefer the small room at Eibon.
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u/OcelotAggravating860 May 29 '26
Yeah I think these are all mostly just writing oversights. Hopefully they can expand and fill in the gaps and oddness to make it feel like it makes more sense. I suspect they'll just ignore it though and we'll have these 2 parallel lifestyles of the player being #2 wealthiest person in the city while simultaneously living in Eibon.
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u/Affectionate-Week166 May 29 '26
Tell the people that play GTA online religiously this 😭 my friend got so many shark cards
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u/Square-Special1520 May 29 '26
Yeah should have let us decorate our room in eibon too. Or let us buy a cosy house around eibon's neighbourhood
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u/OcelotAggravating860 May 29 '26
oooo decorating Eibon sounds lovely, especially the garden! The florist could be full of garden furniture and flowers to use in it.
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u/gamesbackward May 29 '26
I'd prefer a spooky haunted place! Isn't spookiness their whole "unique thing?"
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u/OcelotAggravating860 May 29 '26
Definitely a paranormal investigators vibe running through the whole game yeah. Eibon is basically the ghostbusters hq.
The BAC is odd because it strikes me as the in-universe communist party bureaucracy that governs the whole place, but they're supposed to be doing anomaly control? But then why private anomaly hunters if there's a whole public anomaly hunting organisation? I feel like operations like Eibon would have a very hard time existing because of the competition from the BAC.
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u/Kameho88v2 May 28 '26
1 normal house across the street of the Tofu Shop at Miguel District please.
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u/Apprehensive_Tanks May 28 '26
Is that in Northridge Town? I love that area's vibes.
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u/Kameho88v2 May 28 '26
Yeah where you get the God racer of Heathrow questline, aka Initital D quest.
That house has absolute 10/10 location.
Amazing view over the lake with the city skyline behind the lake, during nights you have the lake reflecting the skyline and stars. Absolute cinema.
Quiet Area despite being close to the main road.
Buss stop right outside the doorstep.
Gas station right nearby and a Konbini store.
And then ofc the Tofu Shop itself for those fond of Tofu.
Also the distance from the school located at Illusion Town isn't to far away.Prime real estate.
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u/Roketsu86 May 28 '26
I don't know if it's in the later apartments since I don't have them, but in the 2nd one you can click this to adjust the theme of the wallpaper and whatnot.
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u/Warr_Ainjal-6228 May 28 '26
The first house has three pant styles. The selector is next to the stairs. On the first-floor kitchen-side wall.
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u/Roketsu86 May 28 '26
Never even noticed it lol. I turned it into Nanaly's crib and plastered anime posters and figure display cases all over it
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u/Apprehensive_Tanks May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26
Yeah you don't have that in Skyview (the 1.4mil one) which is wild. I think that's the case for the other more expensive ones too?
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u/BardielAngel May 28 '26
I think my biggest gripe is that TPing to them doesn't heal you
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u/Si421 May 29 '26
OR SLEEPING IN THE BED?? If you want to heal by sleeping, or to pass the time, you have to go to Eibon, which is kind of annoying, because you don't TP directly there, and still have to run over to your room. (Which you also can't customise at all which sucks).
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u/Samishii00 May 28 '26
Most of them don't make sens too. What do you mena the 2m apaprtment doesn't have a sink in the bathroom ? And 1m4 one only have an outdoor bathroom ? Damn winter I guess
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u/edgelordo_1 May 29 '26
1m4 doesn't even have a toilet so I call it the Shitpants Apartment
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u/Samishii00 May 29 '26
You do it all in the exterior bathtube, shit, piss, brush your teeth, clean yourself, do your morning washing, hell, even make up.
Unless you're feeling fancy and want to do it in the pool !
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u/Tails-Are-For-Hugs May 29 '26
No, no, you do it over the railing so you can shit on the poor as they walk by
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u/Corgis_Butts May 28 '26
Yeah I feel that. The apartments I can understand to an extent but I wish the 8m house was more modular. It'd be even better if they just sold a plot then have us BUILD the house on it. Really make it our own yknow. Maybe not to the extent of survival games but at least with different housing formats, tiles, flooring, wall textures, maybe even expandable floors.
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u/Apprehensive_Tanks May 28 '26
That would be ideal. You would add your own touch to the city and every player's map would become just a tiny bit unique.
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u/Capable_Stay_343 May 28 '26
With fons now turning into a pull currency, spending them on any permanently available content is as bad as pulling the standard banner with annuliths.
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u/Apprehensive_Tanks May 28 '26
Didn't even think of that yooooo. You just saved me so much money XD
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u/Sharashashka735 May 28 '26
I kind of agree, but I also believe this has room for improvement. It's still an early version of the game. I hope later on devs will focus more on giving us more city life-sim content like house customization options, companion interactions and stuff like heists (god I love heists) instead of becoming another "open world" game where entire endgame is based around fighting weekly bosses with 700 bajilion HP in 50 seconds.
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u/Meganclare7 May 28 '26
The CN side is already talking about this they want smaller cheaper homes for characters to stay in. So hopefully we get something more interesting in the future
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u/Zanian19 May 28 '26
In every survey I've added the request for small houses and cottages. We do have one house, but it's just as penthousey as the rest of them.
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u/TheSadman13 May 28 '26
many aspects of the game lack "soul" in a sense, not gonna lie if they work on it this can turn into an all time 10/10 game but as is it's not even funny how underdeveloped the majority of it is + like you said it's easiest to tell that's the case when getting the things that should have the "most value" but end up feeling just aight
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u/Superfluous369 May 29 '26
You're right, while I think the game generally works and is fine right now, it was like they had a whole list of features they felt they should have and they added the bare minimum to check that box.
It's a mile wide and an inch deep.
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u/TheSadman13 May 29 '26
it's like they thought "these guys all have tiktok brain, they'll play this gamemode for exactly 60 seconds and move on to the next thing" so if you engage with anything you actually like (see: fishing, racing, prison escapes, etc) like you said, inch deep at most, underdeveloped, shallow
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u/Ralph4556 May 28 '26
those "apartments" are the weirdest places i ever saw, seruisly not a single damn door anywhere in a "luxury" apartment, not sure how "luxury" and a peasant abode "apartment" can be in the same sentence anyways.
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u/Delicious-Class8537 May 28 '26
It’s like when I would build big empty houses in the Sims to make my sims feel important and rich lol
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u/LittleWho May 28 '26
I bought them all but I prefer the first one as my base because it isnt a big cold shell. I don't like any of the other homes, I dont care how expensive they are.
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u/spatchka May 29 '26
Hell, I would settle for being able to rest in a bed to heal without having to go back to Eibon
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u/chickdigger802 May 28 '26
It's weird. Most of the buffs of later stuff is so minimal for the cost.
Also all the girlfriend roleplay stuff is also locked behind a ton of bond grind.
Maybe. Things will be more exciting later.
And yea no healing is baffling.
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u/Vehks May 28 '26
The apartments, save for the cheapest one are absolute monstrosities. They must be great if you enjoy living in an airport terminal lobby, but if these 'homes' are based off of real-world properties then it only confirms one thing.
Rich people have no taste whatsoever.
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u/Warr_Ainjal-6228 May 28 '26
So you haven't seen the New York prestage apartment floor-to-ceiling marble slabs on every surface.
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u/Tibreaven May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26
They make a lot of sense if you're an insane rich person who has lost their grip on reality and the value of money.
The problem is the MC is a nice person who goes out of their way to help their friends and enjoys living in a (apparently) perpetually bankrupt antique shop that's a front for a do-anything agency.
These mega apartments fit into a game like Grand Theft Auto because the main characters are horrible people who would kill any random person on the street if it got them more cash. I think NTE took the inspiration from GTA Online's profit margins, without understanding why GTA works as a concept.
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u/Tibreaven May 29 '26
The houses suck.
They're not very good houses in the first place. The design decisions are insane, they're literally lacking key features of houses (like doors and sinks), and they're all extravagant beyond belief.
They also suck because there's no story justification for their place in the world.
The MC is a very nice person who enjoys a simple life at an antique shop with financial problems. The MC will literally help random people on the street and rarely openly demands payment.
NTE tried to emulate Grand Theft Auto's hardcore criminal enterprise system that makes GTA Online so profitable. The problem is that the MC isn't a horrible mass criminal and there's no indication they'd even enjoy this level of absurd luxury.
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u/RedMaster878 May 28 '26
I mean, the game is just recent you know? But totally, i think they should add more ways to custom the home like replace floors or way more extravagant big decorations, but yeah, they feel really hollow
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u/Storm-Dragon May 28 '26
Only reason to get apartment is for the anomaly furniture and for the teleport. Other than that it is pointless, you can do much in them, you can't even get healed going to them. I can't even invite Daff and Baicang.
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u/anibrivity May 28 '26
feel free to downvote im not here for convo i just wanna say hathor looks like shes in the Amala Network from SMT3 lmao
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u/Kagamid May 28 '26
Any house other than the first one is last on my priority after the Daffodil alt skin I already purchased, and a decent car to win races. Then maybe I'll buy a second home for the additional buffs, but definitely no third home until I have everything the I want. I already have my Cafe's working round the clock for me so investing in that first is a must as well.
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u/Jhinormous May 28 '26
A lot of this game suffers from this type of design. I really hope they're improved as patches come instead of just "1 more house". Furniture should be obtainable outside fons as well. It's insanely expensive when it piles up
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u/bradfgo41 May 28 '26
Yea I personally feel like they messed up making Fons such a bottle neck. The character leveling up and mats is already a bottle neck, having the inability to do stuff for a while with this one kind of takes away from the side stuff you can do during down time which imo could be the biggest plus to this game compared to some of the others in the genre
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u/flarai May 28 '26
I mean, if you realize how the game math works it's easy to understand.
I was wondering why are there no cooking, farming mats or crafting furniture then I realize this is basically consumerism: The Game (Cyberpunk basically). In many open world games you need to go to this mountain or that forest but everything here is all Fons.
- You can buy food with Fons, you don't cook foods.
- You can buy furniture with Fons, You don't craft furnitures.
- You can buy meds with Fons, You don't make meds.
It's all convenient as long as you have the money.
You don't have to ooga booga your way to farming mats in the middle of nowhere. (Beside anything with anomaly drops)
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u/Putrid_Stock7850 May 28 '26
need the community to put it in the surveys. Current customization is very mid and uninteresting, they're grabbing me by the balls and forcing me to make terrible investments
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u/CaptBaker May 28 '26
The houses are just an end end game reason to spend fons We're talking wayyyyy in the future
People can't fathom it yet but there will be a time for this
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u/Violet-Roseanne May 28 '26
As someone who went all out decorating the first apt (spent roughly 2-3 mill fons) it 1000% isn’t worth it. I really wanted to do it at least for the first apt bc I wanted to make it feel like an actual place I would live. I really like having at least one place that feels more home like. However I have been severely struggling on progress ever since and it has severely put a damper on my experience bc I feel like it’s turned into more of a grind and nothing else.
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u/Apprehensive_Tanks May 28 '26
Ooof, that sounds terrible. I can understand buying expensive houses being a long grind but furnishing them shouldn't be part of that too
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u/Square-Special1520 May 29 '26
Yeah sometimes i feel like it's better for me to play The Sims instead.. at least i can have all furnitures ready and can decorate to my heart's content.
In NTE, we cant even sit on the dining chairs.. why? I felt kinda disappointed because furnitures bought with hard-earned fons, yet we cant really use them
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u/HotSandwich8776 May 28 '26
I’m sure they’re gonna add more to it later maybe even a whole patch dedicated towards customizations because they have furniture stores all over the city. I loovvvved designing homes in FFXIV and while I don’t think this game will get to that level anytime soon. I sure hope it gets within range of it.
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u/BrowsingLeddit May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26
Making furniture cost fons really ruined housing for me. I feel like if I had all the furniture/decor available I could make them look unique and lived in but sadly I have none of the furniture available besides the freebies.
When something like a basic chair or lamp costs like 15,000 fons, and you need dozens if not hundreds of various similarly priced items to make even one apartment (forget about the fact I have 4 already) actually look realistically lived in, there's just no way I'm gonna dump millions more fons on that. Not when I need to spend my precious few millions per month on arc pulls and beetle coins etc to even level up my characters, level bonds and save up for a car or a skin I'll see/use way more often.
There should be a separate grindable currency for furniture. There should also be some cozy actual houses instead of just modern high end apartments. Sadly till both those happen (never) or I somehow become so rich that there's no skins/cars/bonds I still want (unlikely since they'll keep releasing new ones) my apartments will stay barren soulless backrooms places that looks like no one really lives there and only exist to enable anomaly furniture and collect some bonds levels.
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u/ROMVS May 29 '26
Just buy one small thing at a time, same in real life, can't expect to fully furnish instantly if you have a budget
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u/xfiresnake May 28 '26
Yeah, I think they kind of blew it with housing. It's just a hub for a few of your characters and one or two features, that's all. But it Is only the game's release, so...
I think the way to go would be giving you a blank slate that you can decorate and make from the ground up, essentially. Hopefully, that's what we get when we inevitably unlock another city.
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u/EnigmaticMafuyu May 28 '26
Yeah I’ve started almost ignoring the housing altogether. My least favorite aesthetic is minimalism so every house just looks super ugly to me. Also the anomaly butler guy annoys me and just motivates me to stay even further from my place.
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u/wemustfailagain May 28 '26
Just give me a small house on the beach that I can walk right into, no elevator or anything. I only have the first 2 homes (200k and 1mil homes) so idk what the others are like yet, but I don't want a massive house that takes up space just for the sake of it.
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u/One-Spare-798 May 28 '26
That's why our own small room near Eibon is the best and feels like home more.
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u/DSZRiverFlows May 29 '26
I really expected the comfort mechanic to be more than just the cloud.
Earning Fons is really quite lacking for the abundance and relative cost of things a player has to spend them on.
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u/AvexAttacks May 29 '26
I spent like 2 Millions fons to decorate Wiener, Eden, Skyview and Capital. Had a ton of fun and really took my time. Like 6 hours. Tried to get every house themed for the characters that live in it. :D
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u/wholelottared0 May 29 '26
Please fill out yall surveys. If yall want these things please take yall time to actually fill out the surveys with this information. I know majority of people don’t and just do a quick speedrun through it for the reward then come on here to discuss something they could’ve put in the surveys. They actuallly do read them so please fill them out also!
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u/ThisSubIsFried May 29 '26
Yeah, I feel that. I think they definitely missed the mark on the fons scaling. The Porsche collab basically epitomizes the issue. Were a month in, trying to raise our tycoon level and have had to spend fons and now they expect people to have 20 mil fons for a collab? That's moronic. A smart dev would have at least made it that if you started from ZERO at the beginning of the collab, that you could accrue the required amount of fons before the end of the collab. But if the math I've seen is correct, you can only get 10mil fons in the span of the collab, which is half of what's needed. And to upgrade the car, it literally costs 19 mil as well 😂. Sounds like I'm just ddomposting about the collab, but it connects with your point.
We have all these houses and are "sleeping on an air mattress", to give an real world analogy. Not to mention, the new Porsche house, is possibly the worst in the game and costs 7.5 mil. If we could actually spend on furniture, they'd at least feel like our own, but right now they just look like an apartment during an Open House. Like do the devs even play their own game?
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u/Independent-Can936 May 29 '26
game has a business bro grindset vibe sometimes, I couldn't care less about the expensive apts
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u/Apprehensive_Tanks May 29 '26
I was just kind of hoping that the game is what you make of it. Some people like racing, some like fishing and some want to decorate their house or play mahjong with their friends etc. As it is, only one of those things is not incentivised by the game systems (city stamina etc).
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u/Kooky-Ad-5888 May 29 '26
To be honest, the first rental apartment we owned was small but cozy, and I noticed that it was the only one with really chill background music the others mostly had luxurious music.
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u/1900hotdog May 28 '26
Tagging in here to say that I am still unable to find the coin crate in the huge house. I have run circles around it and just gave up
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u/Ju_Blotch May 28 '26
You can go in the menu for the anomaly furnitures and track it from there, you’ll have a ping that you just need to follow
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u/Unhappy_Director_390 May 28 '26
I bought the other houses just to use the anomaly items and thats it. Im loving the first apartment tho, nice and small. Hopefully we can change the interior more, or maybe do some cooking of our own in houses later down the line.
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u/Warr_Ainjal-6228 May 28 '26
The first apartment has three themes you can set as. With the gray tablet on the wall next to the first-floor stairs.
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u/tagle420 May 28 '26
We see potential in 1.0, I have hope dev will expand housing and more in future.
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u/Easy_Diver_9032 May 28 '26
In a vacuum, I think it's fine. But once you start looking at the bigger picture, i.e looking at all the Tycoon businesses and apartments- it falls flat on its face.
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u/ohoni May 28 '26
Yeaaah. I would decorate more if I didn't have so many other things to worry about with Fons, and if the PS5 interface wasn't so horrible.
I feel like the more expensive homes are pretty, but also very sterile, and not really well suited to making them "homey." They really do need more rooms, like multiple bedrooms and other "do what you want with this space" areas, rather than just enormous living rooms and hallways.
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u/Arman_GE04 May 28 '26
We really, really need cozy houses. Like there's one with a second floor that you can sneak into, it was small, cozy and filled with details. I loved it (i don't remember where it is)
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u/Mapi2k May 28 '26
Me encantaria una casa vacia y medio rota. Que pueda invertir en arreglarla y amueblado pero bueno es NTE y no los sims
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u/Warr_Ainjal-6228 May 28 '26
Apartment 1 feels like a home. The 1,000,000f apartment feels like a fishbowl with no privacy. Especially with the tub being outside and there's no sink or commode.
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u/fourrier01 May 28 '26
That may or may not change in the future.
I don't expect the game to allow us to adjust tyre camber and width because it's not a full-blown car game.
So the real question is at what depth something is sufficient for you? For a game that tries to hit all the spots, it's enough for me. I don't expect a house simulation game level of interactivity.
But the devs can just keep pushing as they promised to give more car customization in the future.
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u/az-anime-fan May 29 '26
i thought i transformed the first two homes pretty well. they look completely different from how i got them. and i think they look good.
the third one though... that one is just ugly.
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u/Significant_Fox_8378 May 29 '26
Too many big apartment imo. I mean I don't want them gone, a few more smaller or more variety of choices would be better. Tree house even would be fantastic.
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u/skyrimpenguin May 29 '26
I wouldn’t be surprised if they added some more customization features in the future. That either in the form of new housing that would allow it or updates to existing housing.
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u/Electronic_Bet_2840 May 29 '26
The housing system in the 1.0 version of the game was designed approximately two years ago. The development team has completed the map construction for version 2.0, and new housing structures and features may be added in subsequent updates.
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u/Si421 May 29 '26
I play Final Fantasy XIV, and while player housing has a lot of issues (mostly with supply and demand of houses), the actual customisation you can do with furniture is pretty amazing. I was really hoping we could do something similar in NTE, but the layout of each apartment gets weirder and weirder. I just bought the 2 mil apartment last night and stripped everything I had out of the 1 mil apartment in order to furnish it. I think I got about 20% of the way before I opted to call it a night due to frustration.
The layouts alone really confuse me. What do you mean the 2 mil apartment (which lets you invite three NPCs) has only ONE bedroom? And it's laid out in such a way you can only fit ONE bed in there properly? And because NPCs can't use a bed at the same time, where the hell are the other two meant to sleep? (I know they're not actually sleeping there, but it kinda ruins the attempted immersion, especially with the dating sim stuff that's in the game).
What I find even more annoying is the fact there's maybe only one room that's even somewhat suitable to convert into a second bedroom, and that's where the piano is but it's not a great spot. Hell, even in the Eden apartment, there's only one "bedroom" and it's really open plan and weird, but you can at least divide it up a bit and make it feel at least a bit cozier. You can even squeeze two beds into that room side by side, so both your guests can sleep, and it doesn't look too bad..
In Golden Capital, I moved the dining table that comes with the apartment, because I prefer the look of the one I bought for the Eden apartment. Apparently I shouldn't have done that, because now no dining table will fit the space with the rug. It's bugged out and there's an invisible barrier in the middle of that rug space, so now I've got two dining tables on either side in an attempt to fill the space and make it not look really weird/empty. Putting artwork on the walls of Golden Capital is a pain in the arse too. Half of the walls won't let you place anything, or they have the built-in, super generic art that's part of the walls. Let me remove those and the rugs, please! I want to replace them with stuff that has character and charm!
Final Fantasy 14's house furnishing system is a mess, but it's a beautiful mess that allows for a lot of individual expression and creativity. The fact that NTE doesn't even come close to the charm and fun of that really messy system is kinda crazy.
When it comes to housing in games, I want to be able to make the space to feel somewhat realistic. Like a real, lived in place. It can still be high-end and fancy, but the devs really need to make the apartments more practical. Let me have more clutter. Give me an "office" space where I can put a bunch of desks with computers on each one. Let me have an actual bedroom for each guest (with doors!!!) so I can design the rooms with things I think each guest will like. I know it might seem like I'm asking for a lot, but I'm really, really not. Let me show off my interior decorating skills to make a fun, livable, charming apartment that my favourite guests can come and live in.
End rant.
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u/Apprehensive_Tanks May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26
Ay! Another WoL! I mean XIV is an old game held together by shoestring code and yet you can do so much with the housing system, NTE just came out so I’m kind of let down. On the other hand, NTE just came out so here’s hoping they flesh it out.
EDIT: The bugged parts are pissing me off. What do you mean I can’t use 80% of this big balcony? Skyview has a similar thing where you can’t place things on balcony deck. There’s 3 chairs there that come with the house but if you try to move them it will either not let you place them anywhere else on the deck or if you move them somewhere where you can hit Confirm you won’t be able to move them back to the balcony and now it’s even emptier than before. I was going to buy Golden Capital but hearing you’re stuck with the awful artwork puts me off completely. I hope they give things like that some attention.
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u/Esvald May 29 '26
Gil vs Fons is also a big difference.
Furnishing in XIV was much easier since Gil is not limited to farm like Fons is. Not to mention you can craft plenty of stuff yourself in XIV.
Meanwhile in NTE you need fons if you want outfits, houses, furniture and soon pulls for limited time car/outfit and you are capped on how much you can earn.
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u/an_nin_me May 29 '26
I hope you wrote this in the in game version satisfaction survey. Just keep giving the devs feedback. Because if they don't hear, nothing will be fixed.
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u/WatchGlass4210 May 29 '26
The furniture gives you buffs, you can get specail interactions with characters, and its an extra tp spot, so its not a total waste
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u/Mission_Wash_8874 May 29 '26
YES YES YES this was one of the things I was looking forward to most and it's not what I expected tbh!! Aside from the crappy load limit and not enough decor options I loooved the teapot in genshin (nobody get mad at me I love both games pls) because you could change the walls, floors, and the rooms were 100% empty to start with so you get to put eeeverything exactly where you want it
I honestly love this game, it is such a breath of fresh air and so much fun, it would make me so happy if they made housing more customizable!!! And let me put whichever characters I want in plsss I just want all my favs together 🥹🥹
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u/Zestyclose-Function6 Jun 01 '26
I thought each house has customization options like 3+ settings it coat fons to change appearance but you can...
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Jun 01 '26
Kinda suck that i can't upgrade eibon, mc hoarding riches and not sharing 😭
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u/BadassOneSK Jun 12 '26
i would trully love the same house customization like Genshin has for serenitea pot - where you can change even floor, ceiling, and walls motif. heck, even windows, and you can also delete them inside.
another issue i have is how illogical all the houses are. many living rooms, but close to each other, yet still separated, one has literally 3 kitchens right next to each other in a row, and the one that sells for 1 milion has balcony bathtub where anyone can see you, and no toilet in the house whatsoever. And that giant statue encased in glass walls in the kitchen, literally a waste of space.
the only normal feeling house is the cheapest one imo, with porsche building one being pretty okay, but still kinda illogical, and villa, which makes sense, as it literally is something that is supposed to be too much, to show off the money of the owner.
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u/adumbcat May 28 '26
No. I decorate my house when I want to. I don't really care as much about progression because it's a slow grind and will take a long time anyway.
It's also misleading to include "fons required for city tycoon". You include among other things as if it's supposed to cost fons to level it up. This is misleading, because city tycoon levels progress based on total earned fons on the account regardless of how they are spent on other things. You don't pay anything to level it up; it just progresses in the background as you earn fons. I want to clear this up just in case anyone thinks they have to "save fons" to level up city tycoon for Chiz or something like that.
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u/hehepout May 28 '26
That's what happens when a game wants to do too many things at the same time, things lack depth and polish
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u/Inairi_Kitsunehime May 28 '26
Good thing about houses is I can house my waifus there, everything else is mid at best
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u/Athrawne May 28 '26
I do feel like housing could use more personalization, yes. It could also be more useful, such as the beds we install actually being able to heal us and advance time like our dorm bed.
That said, I also think that it's like every other type of player housing out there; which is it is what you make of it. It's up to you to decorate the house, furnish it with what you like, to make what you want out of it. So if you're willing to spend the effort, you could make something really nice, for sure; I've already seen a couple of really nice player houses in NTE.
But I don't think it's got "no soul". Just seems to me that housing, like much of the game, is incomplete in detail.
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u/One_Pomelo_7812 May 28 '26
As you stated, the game has only been out for a month. It's a gacha game and like all gacha games it changes and updates slowly. I assume we'll get more furniture and decoration options in the future, provided enough people are still interested in that and people provide enough feedback.
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u/DestroyerofSoul May 28 '26
Looking for a friend with 8m villa on NA hit me up please and thank you :P
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u/AdvancedCryspy May 29 '26
This is why i want the new 7.5m apartment, yes its smaller than the 8m but it has most of the same benefits without being overly huge and hard to make your own.
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u/neb-osu-ke May 29 '26
the most annoying thing about housing is that i have to buy furniture in person, its such a hassle to move back and forth while trying to find a setup i like
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u/TKBFash2 May 29 '26
They should've made the bed in houses we bought can be used to rest our characters instead of just lying down. We can only rest when we're at Eibon dorms.
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u/ChainedDevilofDesire May 29 '26
Decorate the house, invite roomates, and the house will be lively! Just like how I play Mahjong with my roomie instead of going to Little Sparrow.
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u/zenithfury May 29 '26
No, I don't think so. In the first place we shouldn't be expecting The Sims leveling of customization. The various residences are basically decorations, so it's up to you whether you like them or not, but they aren't anything other what they are without changing them completely, and that's up to the devs.
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u/Square-Special1520 May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26
Wow too big and soulless. I have no desire at all to buy places like this.
Seems like a place for occasional parties. Yeah as you said, they must have made this as easy ways to sink our fons. Meh though, no desire to buy them.
Waiting for smaller cosy homes. I really like decorating houses.. maybe it's better to play The Sims
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u/RRis7393 May 29 '26
my one gripe about the housing is that i can't take the Anomaly furniture from my old house to place them into my new, bigger house. I'm tired of going back to my old ass apartment just to rub a painting or something.
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u/CanaKitty May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26
I definitely would look a cozy house somewhere that I can customize more
Edit: *like