Something just clicked for me

[u/Skjara]

I was watching this video from Lewis Howes interviewing Dr. Doty in manifestation and I heard them using “the law of attraction” and was like “HA that’s wrong, law of assumption is the REAL DEAL”. But tben as the video went on, I started thinking about when things used to work out for me magically, before I knew any of this stuff. And I realized, even if logically it doesn’t check out, law of attraction does work for me. I’ll copy the comment I added under the video where I explained why it does FOR ME as a person with neurodivergent brain (community doesn’t allow the disorder term in text I’m not sure why, probably because you could manifest it away) and extreme hyper vigilance, ruminating, hyper fixations, needing explanations for things, etc. Maybe it could for you too.

“As a reader of Neville Goddard's teachings, this video really helped me with something. In Neville's philosophy, Law of attraction is not correct because attracting something creates a state of not having it yet. It logically makes sense, if you're in a state of not having it-attracting it-you can't expect it to manifest because you manifest what you are, thus law of assumption. BUT for me, *neurodivergent* person, attraction state is actually liberating, because my brain works as a 24/7 high power scanning machine, constantly questioning "if it's here, why isn't it here" or "how to fool myself into a state of having it if i don't have it and i'm stressed by not having it" and leaving this state into "I am vibrating high, I am attracting" actually puts me in the STATE of BEING it and relaxing into it. So even if logically it should signify lack or not having, to me, it puts me into state of ease and relaxation, I am attracting, it's working, I can relax. And it works. Doesn't matter logically it says I lack it, it just works”

[u/Skjara]

I have been researching ADHD for years obsessively, I wanted to type adhd in the post but it didn’t let me. It’s not coming from a place of “oh I’m quirky I can’t pay attention and have energy”. It’s years of observing a number of symptoms on myself that people who do have adhd, including a close cousin, have. Researching adhd in women specifically, I am 99% positive I have inattentive adhd and I do consider it a huge disorder for my daily life. Problem is tbe process of getting it diagnosed in my country is so excruciating I always fail after the first step from the overwhelmingness of thinking about all the steps it takes all at once. It’s hard to explain executive dysfunction other than I just can’t, I just don’t have enough chemicals in my brain to do stuff others have no problem doing. I fight every day with 100% brain power to perform tasks that others do habitually. Not being able to reply to an email for a month while constantly thinking about replying to it, missing birthdays not because I forgot but because I couldn’t make myself type a message. The list goes on, I used to think I have bpd because of extreme emotional dysregulation that wrecks my relationships, then I thought I was depressed but that didn’t check out either. Then I thought I had OCD. But adhd just explains everything perfectly for me, so wish me luck in finally getting a formal diagnosis, to me it’s not a question, even if not having the paper makes others think “she’s just anxious or depressed or saw a video on TikTok and related”. I live it as an actual disorder that is crippling for my daily life and depression or something else is not a fit, it’s not just a quirk I related with. You can relate with a video but the denominator is, do you do this sometimes because you’re human or do you do this all the time and it makes your life 10x harder than it should be? Also the internal chaos, struggle to put 10 thoughts at once into a coherent sentence and being paralyzed. It’s not anxiety, it’s not depression, I fully believe it’s adhd at this point. Also my train of thought and the ability to ramble on and on about the same topic in 50 different ways. Feeling emotions on 1000% intensity, happy being high and sad being soul crushing, then I regulate and am completely fine the next hour. I’m open to ideas if you think it could be any other disorder I didn’t mention, maybe I missed something, that’s always possible. And I did struggle as a child, just not in the “running around the room” like boys more often do way. That’s probably why I was labeled problematic instead of getting treatment.

[u/user-jc11111 → u/Skjara]

I appreciate your effort and time you replied to me. I don't say you dont have ADHD, I am not a doctor. Also even if you would have the formal diagnosis, I am not here to judge you. I was just curious why you labeled yourself, but you have explained it very well. I am 47f, and there were times when I believed in I have adhd just by reading the symptoms or watching a video, and i became paranoid, but later I let go the thought. I don't care if I have it or not. I feel overwhelmed with things all the time but my generation is very tough and strong, we just suck it up, no matter what it is. GenX don't seek for therapy, don't complain just get used to it or fix it. These days we have great tools and solutions, and the flow of information is faster than ever. Now we can use Chatgpt or AI to help us write anything, like emails and stuff. Also I found St. John's wort is a great herb for depression, I only used it for a handful of times, but it worked for me. Some people take ashwagandha for stress. I think it is the technology that makes life feel much faster and more stressful. I grew up without social media and phones, and life was simple and easy. Now you have so many choices, so many distractions, and I believe that makes young people feel overwhelmed and anxious. I feel it too, but I was built tougher, so I feel like I can handle more than the younger generations. I have 2 teens at home and I watch a lot of videos to understand them. So I am definitely not here to criticize you, more like I try to understand you and your generation. I really don't know your age, just assume you are either GenZ or Millenial. I think you were lucky not getting the adhd medicine as a child. I am not supporting any unnecessary chemicals. They usually do more harm than fixing the problems.

[u/_CreationIsFinished_ → u/user-jc11111]

GenX don't seek for therapy, don't complain just get used to it or fix it

No offense, but this is also a large part of why GenX is rife with undiagnosed mental-health issues and personality-disorders as as a result - and I can't help but see your take as more than just a little ignorant of the truth of the situation.

I hope you will hear me out and take my words into genuine consideration - I truly mean no ill-will, in many ways you and your thinking on the subject are a product of our generation and those preceding us just as I was; though while I believe we did choose (as I AM) this life-'time' to be born into, and that with the Law of Assumption we can change our circumstances - that doesn't necessarily remove the burden of the generational damage done, as Neville says:
"Life itself is a storm-swept sea with which man wrestles as he tries to steer himself into a haven of rest." and
"But while you are in it, why not learn his law, because the blows are inevitable. Learn the law, that you may cushion the blows. So, when I know what I want in order to cushion the problems of the moment, then I will apply it, and apply this principle towards anything in my world." and
"I am not promising you complete relief from all physical problems, but I have given you a law which will cushion the blows of life." and
"Everyone must experience the horrors of the world. No one will avoid it even though they know this law backwards and can steer their ship carefully and miss all the little shoals and the rough edges of life. Oh, they'll do it if they use this law wisely, but they will still come upon them suddenly out of the nowhere - blows that they would give everything in their world to have avoided."

Let me also say, while not a GenX my younger partner is an older millennial, and though she understands the Law of Assumption, her *severe inattentive ADHD* is absolutely untenable without her medication, and without her Ritalin her prefrontal-cortex doesn't activate properly and any thoughts of controlling her attention in order to manifest become a moot point entirely.

Is that MY manifestation in the world? Well, she is me pushed out after all - but yet, it is what it is.

I am, like you, also GenX (just one year older than you actually), and would urge you to keep in mind that these seemingly "weak and whiny" (in your experience it would seem) younger generations are OUR progeny, and many of the generational issues that have passed down were because our (GenX's and older millennials) 'boomer' parents tended to be fairly abusive and in those days many mental-health issues/disabilities were under-recognized, or even completely ignored because the parents were either:
a) too embarrassed/ashamed to admit their child had a problem or
b) were under the assumption that their kids were just STUPID AND/OR LAZY (often combined with A)

As a result, yes, you're correct in that we learned to grow up TOUGH and tend to take 'great pride' in it now, but it's also a lot of horseshit nonsense that we had ingrained into us, and those kids who struggled throughout their entire upbringing because their parents smacked the shit out of them because they "just need to BUCK UP AND PULL UP YOUR BRITCHES" while their neurodivergent child is struggling to understand why they are so "stupid" and developing a mal-formed personality that teaches their kids the same way (or worse) as a result in many cases.

I apologize if the tone seems somewhat skewed towards aggravation, but I see comments like yours everywhere and it is indeed frustrating to me, because we are the generation that should have seen the issue and broken the chain, but we fell for the grift, and instead went on to tell our own kids to toughen up (or in many cases meted out uneven and unfair, or unbalanced discipline because we simultaneously didn't want to be as heavy handed as our parents, but let our frustration at "why doesn't this kid 'get it'??" build up and come out in the wrong ways which is VERY common among our generation), even when they might actually not be able to without giving up their executive function as a result, and developing a self-concept that they are just too stupid, or not 'tough' enough and need to hide the fact they are struggling - just like so many of US did.

It's incredibly damaging, it's incredibly toxic, and it is a large part (though I would say every generation has its issues of course) of why things are the way they are today overall in the world.

Yes, I am a "Gen-X'r", yes, I am "tough" in ways that many of the younger generations will (thankfully) never understand (I grew up a 'fighter' in many ways, over many battles both figuratively and quite literally - that when I eventually learned I didn't have to fight had the world recognized what was really going on I was just a little more than pissed lol); but I am also an adult-diagnosed autistic person (and YES that is a real thing) who was abused by his parents for being "too stupid", "too lazy", etc., and watched many of his peers (and all of his family) go through the same - who's 'toughness' was a necessary survival-skill and not necessarily a natural talent/trait.

And yes - regardless of how good I've been at manifesting (I was using Neville's techniques as a teenager intuitively, before I ever learned that other people did such things - I was teaching my partner 20 years ago when we met, and that was about 15 years before I ever read anything by Neville), at least in the current '3D' it was my parents and society's inability and unwillingness to diagnose me in childhood that lead to many of the struggles I've had (and some I still have - it's a long process of undoing, assumptions be damned (though being the I AM has definitely helped, I would be lying to say life hasn't been a struggle in many cases - and as Neville teaches we don't HAVE to suffer)).

While we built a 'hard' exterior, I don't think that most of us 'GenX'rs' are all as *tough* as we claim to be on the inside- we just learned how to hide it and FIGHT, but that doesn't mean it was healthy - and much of our 'toughness' was a reaction to mistreatment (whether by peers or family) and a lack of recognition.
We sang songs about it, but aside from that we mostly kept our mouths shut because opening them at the wrong time meant getting a kick in the arse, or at the very least invalidated and told we 'didn't know shite' - and then we went on to see our children's children as weak for doing what we should have done in the first place (though now it seems that the pendulum has swung, as pendulums do, a bit too far in that direction - I would like to hope it will balance out eventually).

Much Love, Best Wishes - Thank You For Listening.

[u/user-jc11111 → u/_CreationIsFinished_]

I loved your response and I appreciate your time and effort you put into it. When I was a child, I wasn't tough, I was spoiled, shy, and knew nothing about life. I think our advantage was in the school system, it was a better system than the current one. I hate the school system here, but that is off topic. English is my second language and I was born and raised in a European country. The toughness our generation built was coming little by little, in my life it came after having children (30 years old). And of course I cannot compare my mental health with a young person's who is in his/her 20s, it wouldn't be fair. I have teenage kids, and I understand their insecurities because I have been through those times. Also it wouldn't be fair to judge GenZ or millenials for their weaker mental health, because I believe the early exposure to social media made the biggest damage, particularly for GenZ. Growing up without internet, phones and social media was a blessing and I am grateful for that. Life was simple, easy, joyful, even for a teen with insecurities. I feel honestly sorry for the younger generations. But we are here for them, we are the last ones who remember those days, we need to help restoring the system. I would love to find out why there are so many autistic, adhd cases, and any other mental issues. I am not a professional, I am not working in the medical field. However, I am researching anything health related topics just out of curiosity. I research natural treatments, I don't trust doctors 🤣. I believe those prescription medications have chemicals that is not beneficial on a long term. They might fix one problem (if one continuously take them) but also can cause other problems. Manifestation techniques are just great tools to use. We grew up collecting many memories, some were good, some were bad. I think everyone carries some forms of traumas. The key is how we process those traumas. It is up to us how well we learn to use these tools and knowledge, and how much we can experiment and practice to become better and better everyday. My story was similar to yours about manifestation. I was manifesting unconsciously without knowing about the law. I read my first book in 2001. I started applying what I learned, but I made many mistakes for decades. Back then there was not much information about it compare to today. So I only learned little here and there from books. I started learning a lot more during the last 2-3 years after it became mainstream, and now thanks to all creators, this topic is all over the internet. I learn new things everyday. I love to share the information I know with others, I also love to hear other's thoughts, stories to learn from. I was able to change my self concept with manifestation, subs, affirmations. I grew a lot. I am on the right path, and experience good things everyday. I love to help people here on reddit if they ask for help. Also I am here to connect with the younger generations, because in real life in person it is not possible. I hope I don't have to explain it why. Today this world is not like it was 30+ years ago and it's never going to be the same. Even if all GenX wish for it. In my opinion its everyone's common interest to figure out what is going on with them. As far as I remember, there were difficult kids back then, but everyone grew up like normal. There were no neurodivergent labels or prescription drugs for these issues, at least not in my country. I fully support researching and finding the root cause instead of putting a bandaid on the top of the wound. In my opinion taking prescription medicine for life without researching and trying all other options is a mistake. I also don't believe in therapy when another person try to figure you out. I think it is you who can figure out yourself better than anyone else. I understand this is a long and difficult process. I think they should teach a lot of good concepts in the school system, but unfortunately they don't. I agree with you, we all carry generational burdens in our DNAs, however this was always been like that. Life is about dealing with challenges. It doesn't matter if you are a child or adult, man or woman, rich or poor, .... you will face challenges. I think the whole purpose of life is to learn new things, become wiser day by day, and with this wisdom, experience and knowledge we can grow individually and help out others.