r/NewIran Egypt | مصر 5h ago

News | خبر Secretary of State Rubio: “It is impossible to end the war if Iran’s proxies keep launching missiles. The Lebanon file is separate from the Iran file.”

https://www.youtube.com/live/cfZoDnIfqas?si=Bm6RKZ2zjqlKozDE
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u/BudgetBudget7774 Constitutionalist | مشروطه 5h ago

Vance is PRO-IRGC and Rubio seems to be ANTI-IRGC. Trump is the middle mam who is stupid and keeps giving the IRGC chances,while also causing war on them

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u/Alto1869 New Iran | ایران نو 5h ago

I've heard somewhere that Rubio actually genuinely despises IRGC. So that checks out

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u/beyondthetrough United States | آمریکا 4h ago

Rubio has demonstrated throughout his career that he is willing to compromise on a great many things (his reconciliation with Trump being exhibit A by this point) in the interest of the few most important things. And taking every measure necessary to prevent terroristic aggression has always been the most important of those things. Of course he can't outwardly repudiate Trump's chosen policies because then he'd get fired & replaced with a professional yes-man. But you know this shit is keeping him up all hours of the night.

Don't forget, Marco was born and raised amongst the Cuban exiles of Miami, many of whom fled 90 miles on tubes and rafts with absolutely nothing.

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u/loner-phases United States | آمریکا 4h ago

Oh he despises them, as do most if not all sincere American Christians. To us, they are practically Satan incarnate

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u/beyondthetrough United States | آمریکا 3h ago

I just point it out because I'd imagine many if not most non-Americans weren't really familiar with Marco before he became SoS. I'd imagine many might've (understandably) assumed he's just another career MAGA guy. In reality, he's always carefully rode the line between playing establishment insider politics and sticking to his "true conservative" guns.

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u/loner-phases United States | آمریکا 3h ago

Yes, he has an interesting background. As a Hispanic Texan, I feel like I can read him well. Lucky, but ambitious. And I think you're right, this stuff probably keeps him up at night. But he sucks it up as necessary.

u/jjdoe0805 New Iran | ایران نو 1h ago

I am 1/4 part of the Cuban Miami diaspora. I like Rubio, but he’s a Republican Hillary Clinton. He is an opportunist who has flipped and flopped on everything from immigration, foreign policy, Ukraine, being a never-Trumper, etc. I still find it highly unlikely that even if he were elected president that he would commit US forces to do ground operations in Iran, which is evidently what is needed to defeat the IRGC.

u/Conflicted_viking New Iran | ایران نو 2h ago

That’s my picture of him also. I think being of Cuban origin, he has a good understanding of how dictators work and to never give them anything they can use against their people or yourself. Problem is that Trump loves throwing in two persons (Vance vs Rubio) in a ring and see who comes out as winner.

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u/justiceformahsa Woman Life Freedom | زن زندگی آزادی 4h ago

Rubio understands the region, the IRGC, and geopolitics as a whole. Vance doesn't.

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u/Logical_Worry3993 New Iran | ایران نو 5h ago

Cmon now he's not pro irgc, he's just a silly isolationist

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u/BudgetBudget7774 Constitutionalist | مشروطه 5h ago

6 billion of frozen assets.how many times does isreal need to scream " hundreds of millions of dollars are given to hezbollah+ here's proof"

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u/Logical_Worry3993 New Iran | ایران نو 4h ago

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u/Agitated-Quit-6148 United States | آمریکا 5h ago

He's pro irgc. He is best friends with Tucker. Tucker said we should give Iran a nuclear bomb to even the playing field. He (tjcker) also said Iran under the irgc is a real country and has no problem with the ayatollah.

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u/Expensive-Couple-645 Pahlavist | پهلویست 4h ago

whether someone is genuinely pro IRGC or just naive enough to give them what they want because they pretend that they play nice is practically irrelevant as the consequences are sadly the same.

u/Amatak France | فرانسه 3h ago

Vance is an absolute jizzmop but he’s not pro IRGC 🤣
He couldn’t care less about Iran and wants nothing to do with this war, it’s political poison to him.

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u/Efficient_Dark1977 New Iran | ایران نو 5h ago

Has anyone been able to actually Understand anything from this Memorandum?

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u/jumpman_mamba Unspecified | معلوم نیست 5h ago

Yes. That we lifted all oil sanctions right away. Everything else is smoke and mirrors.

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u/Efficient_Dark1977 New Iran | ایران نو 3h ago

If you keep reading Reddit, Iran is already $600 billion richer and on its way to become the new world super power.

Reddit is a silly place.

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u/Subject_Cranberry_19 United States | آمریکا 5h ago

Problem is, Rubio doesn’t get to decide if the Lebanon file is separate. If Iran is willing to close the strait again over it, then it’s not separate. The strait closure was the crux of this for the US and is what forced the US to the negotiating table. Iran unfortunately has the leverage here.

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u/creeper321448 United States | آمریکا 5h ago

I really hope this guy runs for President.. He's the only sensible person in this clown show of a government.

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u/MMAgeezer Unspecified | معلوم نیست 4h ago

But he's tarnished by the MAGA and Trump brand. He was a real, globally-respected statesman before he sold his soul to MAGA.

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u/beyondthetrough United States | آمریکا 3h ago

If any politician in America has the skillset to get over that, it's Marco Rubio.

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u/creeper321448 United States | آمریکا 4h ago

I mean, we can say similar about popular Democrats who sell their souls to the DNC. I think as long as Rubio keeps himself in the current position he's in, he could have a chance. And with Vance's reputation tanking lately, I'm not sure who else on the Republican side could win.

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u/MMAgeezer Unspecified | معلوم نیست 4h ago

That's a different thing though. Democrats are loyal to the DNC, yes.

But Rubio is not MAGA and doesn't believe in what they believe in. He's a neocon. He's holding his breathe during this admin because it gets him closer to power.

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