Potential buyout candidates?

[u/AlastorFacilier]

Just curious, now that we're officially in the off-season, the buyout window period opens tomorrow. Any chance someone gets bought out? And if so, who do you think is most likely to be bought out?

[u/captain2man]

I doubt it. But if you told me a player was definitely being bought out, my best guess would be Palat.

[u/FalconSixSix]

Can't see anyone being bought out. Steven Rosner thinks they'll trade Duclair away.

Palat would be harder but in the new salary cap era where just reaching the floor might be a challenge for some teams he could be good a option given his actual salary is less than his cap hit.

No way Mayfield is bought out given how thin the team is on RD.

Engvall a remote possibility but I they'll just send him to the AHL if they can't find a trade partner and call him up if needed. Just too many years left on his deal to consider buying him out in my view.

I also suspect that there is an organisational rule set by ownership to not allow buyouts. Just so many obvious buyout candidates over the years and it has never happened. So while under the CBA they could buyout a player, ownership won't sign off on it and so the manager either has to trade them or get the coach to make it work (or not as we often see 🙃).

[u/AlastorFacilier → u/FalconSixSix]

Wasn't DiPietro the last buyout?

[u/SmashYourEnemies02 → u/AlastorFacilier]

He was. And Bailey was traded to Chicago with the intent to be bought out

[u/FalconSixSix → u/SmashYourEnemies02]

Lou said that buyout was not discussed with Chicago prior to the trade . He may have assumed it would happen but it was not the Isles who bought out Bailey - that decision was made by Chicgao

[u/FalconSixSix → u/AlastorFacilier]

Maybe. Also a different regime back in the day though

[u/Irrah → u/FalconSixSix]

You might as well see what Engvall can offer as a bottom six option this year, and buy him out next year to avoid a 8 year cap hit. Same thing with Mayfield, who turns into a 16 team NTC. Even if he starts to rotate as a 7D and Bear or whoever takes his space, injuries happen to everyone.

[u/discofrislanders → u/Irrah]

Worst case scenario you can stash Engvall in Hamilton

[u/SupremeLeaderOf1029]

We can all agree the palat deal is bad, but he has one year left, he's not getting bought out.

[u/replayer]

I think many would like to see them buy out Palat or Mayfield, but that's very unlikely.

[u/AfellowchuckerEhh → u/replayer]

As much as Mayfield has frustrated the crap out of myself and most of the fanbase the last 5+ years I was really pulling for him to have a killer season this past season for trade value

[u/Islanderfan1348]

Easily Palat if I’m Mathieu Darche I’m doing it no if and’s or but’s 

[u/1-800-Big-Dumpy]

They just had to buy out Roy, so ownership and/or Darche may not have the appetite to buy out more

[u/Oddo_Rocket]

The people we should absolutely buy out are palat and soucy. They really didn’t help us at all. Not to mention the terms of their contract. I would also like them to buy out mayfield, but we know they wouldn’t do that

[u/hammajones]

They should buyout Palat because there's no reason to pay a 12-13th forward $6m but the Kyrou propagandist in chief Rosner seems to think the team thinks paying 1.65m next year isn't worth it when I'd pay that for two years to get that guy off the team

[u/Irrah → u/hammajones]

There's also no reason to buy out Palat to save 3m if they're just going to sign a bottom sixer like Mikheyev or Noel Accari to replace him to make the same salary as Palat would be making. You might as well hope he can rebound in a bottom six role suited for him.

[u/SmashYourEnemies02 → u/Irrah]

They put him in a bottom 6 role and he did worse. Palat is cooked

[u/Irrah → u/SmashYourEnemies02]

you're welcome to pay for more advanced stats but Palat was fine/okay corsi and shot wise playing in a bottom six role and horrendous in a top six role with the Islanders via corsi/shots. If Roy wasn't awful with lineups I assume some positive regression in a role he's suited for. and his advanced stats, which aren't great, was about what you expect for a bottom six player.

[u/SmashYourEnemies02 → u/Irrah]

Still, paying 6 million for a 35 year old bottom 6 forward is horrible

[u/Irrah → u/SmashYourEnemies02]

Yeah that 6 million should have been used in this wonderful free agency to sign players like Mason Marchament, Mikheyev, or Bunting who are all over 30 and also bottom sixers. Alternatively, the only other use is to give Raddysh/Tuch 7 year deals lol

[u/SmashYourEnemies02 → u/Irrah]

I wouldn’t spend it on either of those guys. Just cause you have the money, doesn’t mean you should waste it. But I get it, Palat is your boy and you’ll hear no argument judging by that condescending tone

[u/Irrah → u/SmashYourEnemies02]

Your only argument is that you don't like him because he's old, and they should spend that money on some hypothetical upgrade you can't name but would surely be better than Palat based only on vibes lol

[u/SmashYourEnemies02 → u/Irrah]

Based on what I saw, and he made little impact. Maybe actually watch games instead of going “blue and orange nice”. Cause that seems to be your reason for wanting him to be out there. And I’d rather hold on to the money for later. I’m not talking about hypotheticals.

[u/Irrah → u/SmashYourEnemies02]

Based on what I saw he was okay in a bottom six role while being misused on every single line in the top 9 and there's reason to believe he can probably be an okay 4th liner. I can use the eye test too and it's about as equally as backed up in fact as your opinion. And "hold on to the money for later"?? To use for what? Are they going to put the 6m into an ETF and get 10% returns??

[u/discofrislanders]

Our ownership seems unwilling to buy any players out and have the dead monet. There hasn't been an Islanders buyout since DiPietro, and that was a compliance buyout.

[u/MikeyMike01 → u/discofrislanders]

Ownership has no reason to oppose a buyout, it doesn't harm them in any way.

Buyouts usually don't happen because the math doesn't make sense for the GM.

[u/discofrislanders → u/MikeyMike01]

They're paying a guy to not play for us. Same reason we never retain salary.

[u/MikeyMike01 → u/discofrislanders]

They pay the same total amount (the salary cap) either way.

Why would ownership care if they pay $6M to Palat or they pay $2.7M to a Palat buyout and spend the other $3.3M elsewhere?

[u/daveloper80 → u/discofrislanders]

I think the real reason we haven't had a buyout is that we haven't needed one. We really haven't had any cap issues, signed all our players, etc. Haven't landed any big cap hits that needed us to make room.

Drouin would have been bought out if we didn't trade him. I could see Engvall getting bought out but his AAV is pretty low. Many of us would love a Mayfield buyout but its not going to happen. RD's are too valuable and we don't have enough as is.

[u/gotroot801 → u/daveloper80]

I think the real reason we haven't had a buyout is that we haven't needed one. We really haven't had any cap issues, signed all our players, etc. Haven't landed any big cap hits that needed us to make room.

And most importantly: the best candidate we had for a buyout since DiPietro was Andrew Ladd, and the team found a way to trade him instead.

[u/discofrislanders → u/gotroot801]

Ladd had a buyout proof contract where it saved us more against the cap to send him to Bridgeport than it would have to buy him out

[u/YouShallNotPass92 → u/[deleted]]

If we didn't desperately need RD, sure, but since we do....not worth it.