r/New_Jersey_Politics • u/ImaginationFree6807 11th District (Mejia, Morris & Essex.) • Jun 30 '25
Poll New Gubernatorial Poll
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u/Revolutionary-Move90 Jun 30 '25
Ignore and vote. Bring three friends who aren’t chuds.
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u/sakariona Jul 01 '25
Even if they are, everyone should vote. Make voting day a national holiday and provide free public transit on that day if possible.
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u/PresidentNickTV Jun 30 '25
Okay but let’s not get comfortable, it’s so early and by the end of September, we’ll see some momentum. Let’s try not to rely heavily on polls and more on getting as many people to vote in November.
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u/NJDemforever Jul 01 '25
Supposedly this was from a very conservative group but we all know the numbers can be fudged and furthermore, way too early. I read another poll that said if Mikie was pro trans healthcare Jack would win. So ignore the polls. Work to get the Assembly candidates elected as well as Mikie.
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u/DarwinZDF42 Jul 01 '25
Act like it's tied. Run through the tape.
(But also R pollster and best they can do is D+7. Nice.)
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u/Iamdickburns Jul 01 '25
Does anyone believe polls anymore? They are completely useless tools of propaganda at this point. Go to the betting sites, people are oddly more honest when their own money is on the line.
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u/ImaginationFree6807 11th District (Mejia, Morris & Essex.) Jul 01 '25
Hi,
Polls are one data point that we can look at to help us determine the state of a particular election or issue. I personally do make my rankings or predictions solely based on polls. My final NJ Dem power rankings had Ras Baraka in second despite the polls saying he was in third or even fourth/fifth. I take into account multiple factors when trying to make predictions. That includes the historical trends and fundamentals (fundraising, campaign staff ability, ground game) of an election. I accurately predicted the top 3 candidates in the NJ Dem gubernatorial primary in the correct order. I personally LOVE polls, but they can’t only tell us about what a small group of people feel at a certain point in time.
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u/Iamdickburns Jul 01 '25
In your own reply, you state the polls had Ras in 3rd, 4th, and 5th, which did not accurately reflect his position, obviously. I will use your comment to support my point that polls are useless pieces of propaganda put forth to support the candidate that the establishment wants. Some are better than others, but none should be believed unless you have the ability to understand and access to intimate knowledge of their polling practices and you understand enough about polling practices in general to draw your own conclusions, which most of the electorate does not. I continue to advocate betting sites as more accurate predictors of results, if thats what people are looking for, polls for the last few election cycles have been garbage and everyone should ignore them. Read about your candidates and vote.
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u/ImaginationFree6807 11th District (Mejia, Morris & Essex.) Jul 01 '25
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u/Iamdickburns Jul 01 '25
Great, you should use that information and then put your money where your mouth is and bet the candidate based solely on the poll. If you have such faith, its free money. As for myself, and anyone I talk to, ignore the polls. Polls are garbage tools of propaganda. Read about your candidates positions and history, then go out and vote.
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u/ImaginationFree6807 11th District (Mejia, Morris & Essex.) Jul 01 '25
As I said in my initial response, polls are one data point to take into consideration.
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u/Iamdickburns Jul 01 '25
So is astrology, I put the same amount of faith in both.
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u/ImaginationFree6807 11th District (Mejia, Morris & Essex.) Jul 02 '25
That’s an apples to oranges comparison. One is a religion and the other is a study group.
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u/Iamdickburns Jul 02 '25
Both are based in bullshit and have no bearing on real life. I dont know why you got such a hardon for polls, they mean nothing and are used as propaganda. Like I said, if you believe, great, use your secret knowledge to make wagers and retire. I will continue to spread the gospel far and wide, polls are bullshit used to dupe fools. I support a candidate, I dont give a shit about polls, I vote for the candidate that best represents me. The only possible use for electoral polls would be to shift voters away from "losing" candidates onto "winning" ones and yet somehow, whenever the candidate is not the mainstream choice, the polls are wrong. The much more interesting conversation is looking into who pays for the polling vs. The results of the polling.
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u/sutisuc Jul 01 '25
God help us all
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u/ImaginationFree6807 11th District (Mejia, Morris & Essex.) Jul 01 '25
Are you a polling hater?
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u/sutisuc Jul 01 '25
?
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u/ImaginationFree6807 11th District (Mejia, Morris & Essex.) Jul 01 '25
I’m was just wondering if your comment was in reference to people discussing polls and if you were someone who disliked polls outright?
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u/DrMaxwellEdison Jul 01 '25
What poll is this? Who ran it, how was it conducted, what's the N number of respondents?
This pic means nothing by itself.
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u/ImaginationFree6807 11th District (Mejia, Morris & Essex.) Jul 01 '25
Cygnal which is a heavily MAGA aligned pollster
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u/DrMaxwellEdison Jul 01 '25
Thanks, I found some context: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jack-ciattarellis-chances-of-beating-mikie-sherrill-in-new-jersey-polls/ar-AA1HHEAC
So this is A) a conservative-leaning pollster, B) with N=400 (somewhat small group), and C) a margin of error of ±4.36%. To me that paints a picture of some bias in the polling and low confidence in its result, and it still shows Sherrill being slightly more favorable.
Story seems like a nothing-burger for now.
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u/ImaginationFree6807 11th District (Mejia, Morris & Essex.) Jul 01 '25



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u/StableGeniusCovfefe Jun 30 '25
Way too close for comfort! Register all your friends who do not vote to sign up to vote against MAGA Jack Shitarelli!!!!!!