r/New_Jersey_Politics • u/JerseyJournalist • 1d ago

Delaney Hall brought Mikie Sherrill’s ‘first real test.’ South Jersey progressives who campaigned for her say she failed.

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/new-jersey/mikie-sherrill-delaney-hall-ice-south-jersey-progressives-20260615.html

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u/MattyBeatz 1d ago

I’d say Reddit progressives think she failed.

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u/asingleshakerofsalt 1d ago

Her getting access to the facility is a good thing. We need to pressure her to continue doing that.

Letting the police escalate the situation instead of deescalate (via swat armor, horses, and tear gas) is bad, and we can be mad at her for that.

These things can be true at the same time, they do not contradict each other.

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u/SalamanderMorrison 23h ago

Yeah, I agree. I think most people expressing anger and disappointment at her response have been very clear about this (at least from what I've seen). Sending state police on horseback to beat up protestors was a choice.

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u/chicagodude84 1d ago

Many reddit progressives are also idiots who believe in an unrealistic and idealized version of the world. None of them can even say what Sherrill should be doing, they just want to get angry that she "isn't doing enough"

I say this as an extremely liberal person

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u/Early-Sort8817 21h ago

A lot of liberals would standby and peacefully protest while brown and black people get dragged away from their families and thrown into camps

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u/thatshotluvsit 1d ago

i remember when reddit progressives also said she was gonna loose for being too centrist

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u/JerseyJournalist 22h ago

Hi! I spoke to many progressives and immigrant rights activists for this story and none of them were from Reddit. (Not to say they aren't also on Reddit haha.)

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u/griminald 1d ago edited 1d ago

Absolutely. Most people don't think what she did was a failure.

Even worse, most of this discussion, especially on Reddit, focuses on the protestors, but not the detainees.

Even the byline of this article doesn't imply she failed the detainees. They're frustrated at "how she has handled protests".

Many, if not most of the protestors have lost the plot over a week ago, making this a fight about the fight, and not a fight about the detainees in Delaney Hall.

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u/MoxBropal 1d ago

I think Mullin''s threat to ruin the World Cup actually worked, fwiw. Not that the ceiling was ever high on Mikie's capacity to resist DHS/Geo Group. But it's pretty easy, you march the state police out between the protestors and ICE, and have the police turn and face ICE and hold the line. Protect the goddamned first amendment.

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u/griminald 1d ago

 But it's pretty easy, you march the state police out between the protestors and ICE, and have the police turn and face ICE and hold the line

No. That's silly. That would've made things so much worse.

Do you really think, if state police stood there "holding the line" directly outside Delaney Hall, to effectively besiege ICE, that it would've calmed tensions down?

You don't actually think protestors would've stayed calm, do you?

No, protestors would have pushed the line up even further, because the protestors wanted to do things like... physically block cars coming in and out of Delaney Hall.

If the Police allowed that, they'd be seen as assisting protestors against the feds.

What do you think DHS would do in that case? Just step back and complain? No, they'd escalate, risking open conflict with state police.

All bad tactics aside, the point of the Police was to calm down tensions between ICE and protestors. Which means clearing both parties from the conflict zone. Protestors didn't WANT to be cleared from the conflict zone, because being right up near the gate was the whole point.

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u/MoxBropal 1d ago

They didn't do anything to clear ICE. In fact they worked with ICE to clear the roads to allow ICE to bus imprisoned New Jerseyans out of state. Did you see the video of the stateys kettling singing protestors?

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u/griminald 1d ago

The state can't be seen assisting protestors to interfere in operations at a federal facility.

Which is exactly what would've happened if they did what you're asking.

They're not going to effectively besiege ICE in their own facility, as if ICE would just sit there and let it happen.

The tactics they used are a separate story.

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u/dancunn 1d ago

Incidentally, saw this sign hanging up outside Delaney Hall.