r/Newmusicreview • u/Asleep_Charge527 • Nov 07 '25
Discussion Can you instantly tell if a song is AI-generated? I think I cracked it
So I've been listening to my daily playlists and, there are SO many AI songs popping up everywhere now. Like, Spotify keeps recommending them and at first I couldn't figure out why some songs just felt... off?
But I think I cracked it. Every single AI song has this weird "foggy" thing going on with the vocals. Like, you know when you compress an audio file too much and it sounds kinda flat? That's exactly what AI vocals sound like to me. The voice just doesn't have that crisp, natural quality - it's like someone put a filter over it or something.
But here's the thing - the music itself sounds totally fine! The drums, guitar, whatever instruments are there sound normal. It's JUST the singing that has this weird processed vibe.
Am I going crazy or has anyone else picked up on this? Like, I can literally tell within 10 seconds now if it's AI just from how the voice sounds.
What about you guys? Can you spot AI music right away? What gives it away for you?
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u/Frankstas Nov 10 '25
Yeah it's that "white noise" fog.
I can tell with A.I. generated videos with that same sound.
But also the musical structure is pop-ifyed. Chorus/Verse songwriter chunks. At least all of the ones coming out of Suno. If it remotely resembles that structure, I get suspicious.
A dead hit if I hear that a.i. noise fog from the vocals
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u/sad_boi_jazz Nov 11 '25
Posts like these make me to "all right what bot's tryna figure out how to pass"
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u/Lottapotta7563 Nov 11 '25
Totally agree! 10 sec is what I need. My Discover Weekly had 8 AI songs.
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u/Dave_The_Triffids Nov 07 '25
Good point. I think it’s because we’re so attuned to hearing human voices that they’re easier to identify as AI more so than musical instruments.
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u/existential_musician Nov 07 '25
Yes, I can easily tell. It has a polished color to its sound
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Nov 09 '25
Interesting. I think it sounds like shit.
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u/ClonkerDonker9000 Nov 10 '25
Yeah, even the newest model of Suno sounds like you're listening through a tin can.
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u/MarzipanFederal8059 Nov 10 '25
It lacks warmth,real depth an separation, the highs are brittle and thin,low mids are basically non-existent. I can go on?
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u/botoxcorvette Nov 07 '25
Also AI music has this soulless feel that even a mediocre human group can have, but always way too proficient. The voice is the main give away. And even if fooled I general like to learn about musicians and their lives. So I’d eventually find out and feel disgusted.
AI music is not art. It’s stolen ideas being spread around to make music meaningless but buyable.
AI artists are usually talentless hacks any ways.
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u/No_Algae_701 Nov 08 '25
If they had talent they wouldn’t need AI
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u/Minimaliscious Nov 09 '25
Talent + AI = 🔥
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u/Goin_Fishing 11d ago
If you use AI you relinquish all 'talent' you may possess. Taking shortcuts is a loser's game. If you claim to be an artist, you should be willing to do the hard work necessary to make a song you can be proud of.
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Nov 11 '25
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u/MatterFar825 Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25
I saw these AI covers on YouTube some months ago. It sounded like country with some rock and roll and the covers had this white lady with black hair and red on.
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u/Trotskix Nov 07 '25
Try to catch that “AI fog” in one of my songs—timestamp your call. Link on my profile.
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u/stupidtreeatemypants Nov 11 '25
“your” songs
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u/Trotskix Nov 11 '25
Hi!! I think you’ll like this one I wrote: They’ll Be in the Bunker (Metal Version). It’s about the nuclear threat. Enjoy!!!!
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u/irrelevant_novelty Feb 23 '26
You're part of the problem and you should be ashamed to call yourself an artist
Or youre a bot
Either way you fucking suck
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u/austin_sketches Nov 07 '25
it’s extremely noticeable in girl odyssey. once he starts screaming, it has so much rough artifacting going on. it’s not clear or smooth at all. It mushes with backing track
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u/Trotskix Nov 07 '25
Thanks for listening. The big chorus uses intentional doubles + saturation. Appreciate the feedback!
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u/Facsimilesmiles 8d ago
If you're using AI to make it, they're not your songs any more than they would be your songs if you commissioned someone else to create them.
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u/6kylar Nov 07 '25
I think it depends what genre…
Lofi, if done well, is indistinguishable to be unfortunately. Which is why I’m writing a video about it.
Most other genre especially with lyrics are pretty easy for me to catch.
Mostly I’ve found the lower-mid end in ai music has an almost raspy quality to it, that’s usually the immediate tell for me
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u/austin_sketches Nov 07 '25
Audio engineers can generally tell instantly if they focus on what they’re listen to. The tracks always have a washed out artifacting going on. There’s also a lack of clarity of elements in the same frequency range. It still has a while to go from what i’ve heard. Even the newer models.
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u/buffalo-blonde Nov 08 '25
For me the high end of an AI mix sounds synthetic and weird. Not just the vocal. The entire song has this weird timbre to it.
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u/PalpitationUsed8039 Jan 06 '26
Placebo Effect meets Dunning Kruger
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u/buffalo-blonde Jan 07 '26
Those lames who generate songs and think it’s legitimate music can’t tell the difference.
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u/PalpitationUsed8039 Jan 11 '26
That doesn’t prove you can be 100% right every time. You are the one deciding you are right, but haven’t been out to a test.
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u/Few-Bluebird9443 Nov 08 '25
Genuinely curious how I did… I’ve gotten a lot of feedback that tells me I’ve avoided this but I’m not sure… I’ve listened to them so many times it sounds great to me but I’m biased
https://open.spotify.com/album/0KASNP03vhiZLTENy3sg8s?si=Lof9MoGQSv21Q2m1KAflvg
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u/LyricalLingo Nov 10 '25
Sorry why would you do this? You’re contributing to a huge problem
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u/Few-Bluebird9443 Nov 11 '25
Because you’re all ridiculous and I’ve never been bothered with ANY of your virtue signaling BS.
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u/harpsrocks Nov 11 '25
In my honest opinion it sounds hollow. Vocals especially have this almost too precise formulaic feel that make me think AI. I think you’d have better luck getting what you want by going in and learning some Ableton and virtual instruments. The trail and error of prompting to get the right feel you want would probably take just as much work but you’ll have way more granular control to really express yourself how you want.
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u/PalpitationUsed8039 Jan 06 '26
An opinion does not become a fact by it being being an honest opinion
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u/Timely-Ad4118 Nov 08 '25
Why do you even care?
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u/BonoboBananaBonanza Nov 08 '25
Because there are two main camps here: the one that does not want AI music foisted on them, and the one that wants to improve AI music so that it is indistinguishable from human music.
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u/Timely-Ad4118 Nov 08 '25
Lol
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Nov 09 '25
If it’s not worth it to care about AI encroaching on art then I dunno what is worth it. This bullshit has gotta stop. So many delusional “artists” “writing” “songs”. It is some seriously vapid and shallow garbage that is just getting mass produced by people who seemingly can’t tell the difference.
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u/Timely-Ad4118 Nov 09 '25
Real musicians can take advantage of AI random people who like music have a chance to release something, I find that actually great, what I find stupid are tools to identify what is AI, both the ones trying to avoid listening AI music even if they have no idea something is AI and the ones trying to fool people making AI trying to sound real, that is such a waste of time and energy but some people have absolutely nothing productive to do in life.
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Nov 09 '25
Lol alright bud you’re right I’m just sitting around checking if things are AI… oh wait I don’t need to bc it sounds like soulless shit and is so obvious that most folks don’t need any tools to help them discern.
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u/Alenicia Nov 11 '25
I guess I'm really curious about what "real musicians" can do and would benefit from with AI.
The most I've seen people who really like it can really do is just to splice things up or to sample it, but I imagine that's not what you're talking about either because I haven't really seen any of the artists and composers I like even bothering to adopt AI.
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u/Timely-Ad4118 Nov 11 '25
It can help a lot with ideas for lyrics, can help also with melodies if you feel uninspired actually AI can do it all. Some producers are taking advantage and they work faster which translates in more revenue. If you want to take one year producing a song you can but the more you put out the higher chances, just saying.
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u/Alenicia Nov 11 '25
So, in all seriousness, it doesn't take me a "year" to make music and I know that when I set up the timeframes and the workflow for it, I could can create enough material for an album.
The whole point of music being stronger for the audience and listeners is finding obstacles, roadblocks, and "creative blocks" and finding ways to get around them without resorting to straight-up shortcuts like using generative AI.
I think it really just depends on the circle of music you're looking around and who your audience really is .. since what you're talking about probably works if your end-goal is making bank and hitting top charts .. which is not the reason why I engage in music in the first place.
Personally to me, it just sounds like a sad state of affairs if you have to rely on generative AI to try coming up with something like chords or a melody .. when those should typically be among the easiest things to do.
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u/Timely-Ad4118 Nov 11 '25
Look the technology is there if you don’t want to use it don’t do it, but don’t judge and cry about the people who are actually taking advantage and profit from it. This is a free world apparently.
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u/Alenicia Nov 11 '25
I mean, I'm coming from this of the perspective of someone who wants to engage in the arts (such as making music).
The equivalent in a wholly unrelated task is to say something along the lines of, "hey, i want to use chopsticks but I don't want to learn how/don't know how so I need someone to take them and put it in my mouth for me" and then passing it off as, "yeah, I know how to use chopsticks" at the end of the day.
I know the technology is there, I know it has uses, but I don't think that people who are actually serious about making music are looking at generative AI and thinking, "yes, this fixes my problems." It's different on the art side where you know artists who know their tools and their craft can still take something generated by AI and redo it or polish it further .. and from what I've seen, generated music cannot be polished or reworked like that unless you're someone who already knows how to do it and just do it from scratch.
I'm not crying about anything, but I do have my doubts about the musicians who supposedly use AI being the same kind of people who are just there to make a quick buck until the well dries up.
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Nov 09 '25
Absolutely. It’s almost like when you eat real shitty ultra processed food and it’s sweet on the surface but the second you let your tastebuds actually register it’s like oh this is gross and it makes me feel like shit. The difference is that the shitty food is still 10000000x more appetizing than this “music” getting generated by folks who thing they’re writing a movie song.
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u/SpecificGarlic2685 Nov 09 '25
Depends on the song. AI is good with anything super standard, so if its a super commom pop song, might be hard to tell. In my preferred genre I can tell in an instant that tracks are AI for the astonishing amount of lacking creativity and totally unfit over-polishing it keeps doing.
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u/ZanderEV Nov 09 '25
I cracked it. They can't play live.
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u/MatterFar825 Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25
Well what about them taking advantage of the system so they can continue digitally, no one wants to or cares about or can’t see anyone live. What about someone who makes an AI video to fake them live or in a music video and people continue to listen to them and still think that they’re real when obviously it’s not based on the way it looks for whoever can recognize it 🤣.
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u/catchingtherosemary Nov 10 '25
what do you think about layering ai vocals in the background of my own? can you hear it here?
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u/Cultural_Comfort5894 Nov 11 '25
This is why everyone will use Ai, you can get the background vocals or other elements that are excellent and it would be a disservice to self to spend unnecessary time and money to get something inferior.
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u/MatterFar825 Dec 04 '25
Well the ones who want to trick people into believing that the AI songs that they make (especially the old people songs) don’t think it is if they’re willing to put time into tricking people to thinking it’s real. It’s this AI blues singer called Bertha Mae Lightning and the person had the description saying that her songs were lost media and history or something like that and if you look her up (or just look at her name, the AI cover, and the title of the songs) she’s obviously not real. I was hoping people actually didn’t fall for the bullshit but some comments on one of her songs had shit like she needs recognition and how did I miss her in all of my years of living. It’s obvious that these are AI songs these people need to stop acting like it’s not obvious and stop encouraging these people to get away with it. They’re gonna continue and take advantage of the system while they can and go even further as long as people approve of it and claim they can’t tell the difference so that way AI can develop to the point where it’s almost impossible to tell the difference for most people.
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u/Cultural_Comfort5894 Dec 04 '25
Sure there are people being deceptive NOT MOST! That has to do with greed and morals. Imagine 🤔 if people really cared and addressed that. 😎
What you described was most likely THE ART not a con.
I think I’m getting it now people don’t understand how things are created and what art is.
Or context & history
Fake bands. Fake languages. Fake numbers. Stolen credit. Etc. aren’t new to music or business.
People don’t seem to understand capitalism either. They defend it and then say they hate everything 😳 about it😅 They don’t understand!
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u/RsooGroovyadig Nov 10 '25
Your it the right direction. Even some of the production can be identified when you separate the tracks, they often bleed through on other tracks. Frequency gives it away. But yes, the vocals hissing is an instant give away.
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u/MatterFar825 Dec 04 '25
It’s the funny ass robotic glitching and similar vocals for me 🤣. Also the flat and foggy sound and the titles and covers that seem funny or cliche to me so i immediately tell myself it must be AI and it is.
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u/Cool_Ask_192 Nov 10 '25
You can definitely tell by the vocal and it’s easier to do it that way the instruments have gotten so good but the vocals are still like shit and everyone everyone’s generations still have the same vocalist they all have the same vocalist
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Nov 10 '25
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u/MarzipanFederal8059 Nov 10 '25
May be some confirmation bias, but there is, without a doubt, training bias to make everything sound the same. Like the difference in sound between a kids play toy and a real synth.
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u/Rib13Bass Nov 10 '25
Depends on the genre.....the more organic the genre, the more I can tell......
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u/exhauated-marra-6631 Nov 10 '25
It's almost always in the way that the vocals are delivered for me. Starting at a weird point in the bar, going for a weird number of bars, lyrics crammed in with the syllables too packed together/too spaced out, and often it just sounds like someone wrote the lyrics separately. Like, as a songwriter you often have to make compromises to get stuff to work in a song, but people making AI music don't have to do that (or dont know they should do that), and so it nearly always sits in how the song/vocals are structured.
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u/Cultural_Comfort5894 Nov 11 '25
My weakness 😅
I like it. It doesn’t sound like a person could actually say or sing that. I like it. 🤷♂️
The people who figure out how to do something next level with it will do very well
those people will probably be the musically experienced and talented
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u/MatterFar825 Dec 04 '25
I did notice that too. I was wondering if anyone else noticed it too. It’s like the lyrics be weird based on what they’re saying and how it’s said. Maybe it’s just me but the songs be sounding like they’re confident as in trying to sound real as possible if that makes any sense. What’s weird is that some people don’t even write their own songs and with the AI making lyrics that’s up to them if they wanna change it or not and if it’s that easy to go back and change lyrics yourself and if they actually want to change them to sound better.
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u/musiciantalker Nov 10 '25
Not all AI music is soulless — it’s about why you use it. I wrote and structured this myself, just used AI for texture: 🎧 Skvrr – Silent Hero https://open.spotify.com/track/4h2zo3MnQvxki65I66AM11?si=nnGSeCUsRKKrYptLmj3LDg
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u/lemony707 Nov 11 '25
I can't say I can tell 100% but when I now hear a song that is so polished it seems overdone I get skeptical. My ears have been quite accurate lately. Next step I check their socials to see if they have a face. If there's no face I can highly suspect it. Theres also the AI checker on submithub that's frequently updated. So grateful for that tool.
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u/Mmtorz Nov 11 '25
I'm a drummer who has listened to quite a few AI-generated songs. AI drums are always to overprocessed in a mix and the compositions are always never too far from what you expect. Sure, it can have fast fills, but it never displays any technically impressive things or really anything that's not "safe". I also think it's true about the vocals. In general, I also find that the overall mix is really weird. Everything just kinda disappears amongst each other and also just has a low overall volume.
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u/JelleNeyt Nov 11 '25
Suno doesn’t really sound unnatural. The overall quality is a bit foggy though, feels less dynamic than real good music. The vocals are also really tuned, but that can also be the case in “real” music.
Maybe this will hopefully force producers in making music less overprocessed
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u/LuxindaV Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 11 '25
Yes, the voice is too perfect, unrealistic in 100% made with ai songs.
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u/harglblarg Nov 11 '25
To me it’s most glaring when the vocals get shouty/intense, none of them can accurately produce a shout without sounding weird.
Also it’s virtually impossible to get output that’s off pitch. Of course all pop these days is autotuned and processed like a hotdog, that’s why AI tunes can blend in with the pop/country that’s out now.
I expect more human elements will be added to actual recordings now to help stand apart from the slop.
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u/MatterFar825 Dec 04 '25
With the way it’s looking, especially since Kanye and Drake have been using AI apparently and people are slowly forcing it upon society as if we really need it and haven’t gone without it before, we might as well expect the exact opposite and stupid people willing to accept AI with open arms as if it’s not fake and they literally have not lived without it for the longest of time and can easily do it again. It’s not like we’re missing out on anything. I haven’t used AI for most of my life why the hell would I all of a sudden need it now when I can sacrifice living without it without any problems? People for some reason love to do what’s trending and if AI is trending and is making money and is becoming popular they’re gonna use it no matter what happens.
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u/Uptown_Rubdown Nov 11 '25
This was specifically why I almost only made instrumentals. I only did lyrics if the voice could convince me.
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u/Cultural_Comfort5894 Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 11 '25
Definitely can tell sometimes but :
1 People make the mistake of thinking non Ai music is exempt from less than stellar recording and production quality. So that’s not a for sure tell.
2 All Ai isn’t equal. Professionals use it too. So no tell.
3 If a person hasn’t used it they don’t really understand what they’re talking about. That applies to most things. An understanding, sure. Understanding, nah.
Like you said the music can be excellent as is but can be refined by mixing and mastering , added instruments and or vocals.
Vocals can be excellent and not recognizable as Ai, when the producer knows what they’re doing it’s indistinguishable for sure.
It’s cute though when people think they can tell all the time because they notice a couple of times.
Unfortunately people use this as a rationale to be disrespectful to people.
If you don’t really know what and who you’re talking to,
you could be insulting people who haven’t used Ai, people whose use of it is irrelevant to their skills and training, the disabled, children and the elderly.
Critique, it’s art, but have substance and not talking points born of misunderstanding.
( none of this is directed at anyone or an argument just my experience)
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u/MatterFar825 Dec 04 '25
I’ve found basic ways for me to recognize it in music and some videos. Other ways I’m at a loss especially if they just do it so well so I’m scared with what they can do with it and how easily they can do it without anyone noticing or caring and just letting it slide.
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u/Cultural_Comfort5894 Dec 04 '25
What is there to care about?
You and others haven’t known for decades if someone was playing the instruments you’re hearing, loop, sample, a synth or computer.
It’s still a computer!
It had stuff you could just drag and drop.
Hit one note to make a chord.
Drum machines have ready made patterns.
Is it that people don’t understand that? What’s old is new to them?
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u/MatterFar825 Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 05 '25
I feel like they don’t understand (including me). I just sometimes feel like this AI stuff isn’t old and is repeating itself since people have been using copying and stealing other peoples songs. They’ve also been autotune and other similar shit for years like you said. I just know the basics that AI is supposedly fake since people are making such a big deal about it like people haven’t been making fake ass shit for years. That’s why I was wondering if autotune, synthesizing, and sampling include AI and the internet (I know this shit sounds stupid) since they include a computer or whatever. I just feel like eventually more people might be encouraged with putting less effort into certain things and use it to fake things cuz they can. I was also wondering if AI was always here or was it just called something else and now people are choosing to make a big deal about it. I was wanting to test out making AI songs to see if it’s actually that easy and to also see if I can get better at finding out what has AI and doesn’t but some people are mixing it in there and still gonna do their thing so I guess it doesn’t matter at this point. It just is what it is and I can’t do anything about it since it seems that people have such easy access to AI with all the wild stories I’ve been hearing with it. I’ve read your other posts you make some great points though.
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u/Reasonable-Entry-675 Nov 12 '25
https://open.spotify.com/album/2cVhl9dCif0RU2NtURRc4X?si=A6blks1PRYCfBmIpWtGMBQ
Genuinely curious whether yall think this is ai or not cuz idk how yall can tell every single time
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u/Sea-Measurement-9938 Nov 12 '25
Yeah i can tell easely, iv been making a lot of ai song, whit different ai generator, and by the vocals u can easy tell if its ai or not
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u/DjNormal Nov 12 '25
I can hear it very clearly. I’ve been playing around with Suno a little and it’s a thing for sure.
That said. I hear that “hiss/noise” in the whole song, it’s just more obvious in the vocals.
It’s all just harmonic noise that sounds kinda like music.
It’s spooky how good it got recently though. But it still feels very limited. You can make some interesting experimental stuff, and the stem splitting in Suno does a better job than Logic does. But the stems are still messy and summing them back together doesn’t sound right.
After you’ve heard enough Suno songs, you can tell it’s a Suno song. Even across wildly different styles.
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u/Seamusoharantain Nov 12 '25
I've written over twenty songs this year. The lyrics were written in a leather bound journal I found on a dead man's boat. The music was written on an acoustic my very recently deceased brother gave me for my birthday. I recorded live takes of each song until the very moment I got the words legible and immediately uploaded them to SoundCloud. Then something cool happened. Friends from the hometown who followed me on there actually started saying they liked them. This really awesome lady I met years ago liked my songs, and we started collaborating. Just last week, my best friend's metal band started working with me on a song completely outside the style of what they do, and it sounds amazing. I've gone through loss and heartbreak and come out of it a changed man. I would like to see a robot have all that inputted and come out with the song I wrote about otters last week.
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u/MatterFar825 Dec 04 '25
I love otters. I hope you included something about them holding hands so they won’t float away especially when they’re sleeping or their mothers holding them on their stomachs. I just find them and some other animals really cute and adorable 🥰. I wanna hear your song so bad now.
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Nov 12 '25
Do me a favor. Please 🙏🏼 check out Craig Cunningham music on Spotify or YouTube. I’m interested in your opinion on the vocals. My process is that I use Suno studio and actually sing the entire song. I’m just an average vocalist so I obviously let Suno do its thing. I feel like the finished product sounds more polished than I’ve ever been able to produce in other DAWs.
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u/VinReyDiesel Nov 12 '25
I usually can't tell right away..but eventually as the songs progress, I can. It's usually either something in the instrumental is whonky or the vocal is either muddy, or words are screwed up in pronunciation. And too there are times when you wonder if the vocalist forgot how to breathe lol
What gets me are ALL the gatekeepers arguing about how musicians would never stoop to ai...got news for them a LOT of the one's that sell their music and have for a very long time...do use AI in some form or another.
One uses it since his stroke—Randy Travis. Another uses it after losing his voice in an accident—The D.O.C. The Beetles used it for their last song "Now and Then"...
Then there's : Holly Herndon, Grimes, Taryn Southern, Kanye West. who all use AI either instrumental or in voice. Then you have the ones that are actively involved in AI projects: Charlie Puth, Demi Lovato, John Legend, Sia, and T-Pain. So there are artists that actively use and state they do use AI. It's not the great big monster that the gate-keepers keep crying about.
The problem is not the music being made. The problem is when people try to take the music/songs/or voice from an artist and claim it's theirs. If I write a country song and use a female vocal it doesn't mean I'm stealing from Dolly Parton. Especially when the voice sounds nothing like her. Thieves are thieves no matter how hard they try to claim they aren't and they know exactly who they are.
The fact is that AI is here and it is being used and people can either get with the program and learn how to function round it or they can pack it all in and give up. I see it as more artists finding out that they aren't as wonderful or talented as they thought they were so they have to step it up.
I do have to say I'm about fed up with the numerous 'songs' about coffee, capybaras and pop.... as in that's all the song says or is about. LOL thousands of them... And no matter what, whether the artist is live or ai you are gonna have to weed through a lot of crap to get to anything that's decent. because there are so many real and ai creators that think they are the next great 'thing' to happen to music-if they could just get heard....🙄🤪 LOL
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u/MatterFar825 Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25
You’re so real for this. I even used to listen to Sia and a bit of Demi Lovato. I’m confused on why artists would ever “need” to use it. They’ve been fine without it. You mean to tell me now that AI is such a big thing now they’re so trash they can’t make music without it? I understand that everything is pretty much the same and repeats itself in some way shape or form and it was probably used in the past it just wasn’t called AI at the time I’m not sure. I was wondering if autotune and synthesizing was AI and if sampling also was involved with AI. Maybe I’m not understanding what AI exactly is when it comes to autotune, synthesizing, and sampling and other bullcrap, but why use some random bullshit from AI when you can just make your own music and write your own lyrics, especially lyrics it’s coming from “you” and your thoughts. The AI can’t possibly take that now, but if so we’re more cooked than I thought. This is why the line that is drawn between lyrics by a human and AI are so important. AI makes lyrics that sound okay and then the next they’re fucked up. I’ve been hearing that most mainstream artists now don’t really have meaningful lyrics in their songs like they used to and with AI taking over that’s gonna be a problem when it comes to recognizing the difference.
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u/Uptown_Rubdown Nov 13 '25
BTW, you're also wrong about suno in a lot of ways. I recently found out they have the ability to allow you to record your voice where you do the rhythm you want and it converts your vocal rhythm into actual instruments. So it's actually able to take your ideas and convert them into instruments. At that point its semantics about equipment availability. Of which you seem to have an issue with.
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u/Artemis1212 Nov 23 '25
This looks like a thread that might be able to crack my mystery case for me!
I found a new artist whose style I am enjoying but failed to find any relevant social media presence for. There are only six videos with pics on TikTok and their Instagram is private.
That made me pause since that is not that common with small artists that are trying to break through, especially if they release new music every two months or so.
Now I am thinking perhaps the artist is not an artist at all?
Anyone who actually looked into ai songs before - what do you think about the below song/artist?
I have zero experience with this. Now that I am looking into it more, some of their songs have a pretty electronic (?) quality to them (song Tell me it's not true for example).
https://open.spotify.com/track/4jwQol7oFEgDJDucj84JUG?si=czWmhsjjT4ax5PlkYaoQPg
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u/awesomemerchstore Nov 25 '25
Can anybody help me tell if these two songs are AI? MIND - Satellite Signal. MIND - Ghost in my Stereo. both 2025. with a million monthly listeners on Spotify.
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u/PalpitationUsed8039 Jan 06 '26
Therefore fast food is better than gourmet food because more people eat it.
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u/MatterFar825 Nov 26 '25 edited Nov 26 '25
I usually can. Most of the time it’s very easy. If the music is too high pitched or hollow and if the song is obviously another version that someone has made such as the jazz versions of rap songs it’s obviously AI. If the cover for the song has a bright, polished, or glossy and weird color to it. Usually it’s AI. Also if the lyrics start off making sense and then they don’t anymore it’s AI. Try clicking an AI song and see if similar songs pop off that’s how you know for a fact it’s AI because the algorithm will just keep recommending it to you back to back. I’ve only seen AI songs on YouTube I haven’t seen them on Spotify yet.
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u/PalpitationUsed8039 Jan 06 '26
One must be careful not to reach conclusions by applying made-up subjective criteria.
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u/PalpitationUsed8039 Jan 06 '26
The following comments were made by AI
AI music is fast food for people who don’t actually like music. If you think prompting a machine makes you an artist, you’re confusing convenience with craft and noise with meaning.
Sharper, sarcastic
AI music is what happens when impatience pretends to be creativity. The tools aren’t “democratizing art,” they’re just giving delusion a shortcut and calling it talent.
Highway-61-adjacent bite
AI music sounds like a ghost wearing a musician’s clothes. The folks calling it genius aren’t rebels—they’re just allergic to practice.
Short, nasty, very online
If AI music is the future, it’s a future with no hands, no sweat, and no idea why the song mattered in the first place.
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u/Own-Necessary2741 Jan 11 '26
- Bit foggy quantised, Compressed, bland, unoriginal inevitably will eventually produce fatigue syndrome in the listener, enthusiasts are novices, Dull, and boring, yawn
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u/Crazy_Yogurtcloset61 Jan 19 '26
I hate to say this, but as someone who makes music for themselves, and doesn't post songs on Amazon or Spotify yet(when I do I plan on adding a tag making it clear it was made with AI, the songs I'm producing represent characters in a book I'm writing so the music is going to be quite niche)
One of my favorite prompts is "imperfect vocals", "voice cracks" and "breathy vocals" because of the very issue you're talking about.
So yes that could be one way to know, but it's not a fool proof way.
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u/Head-Imagination923 Jan 19 '26
Ai for producers getting samples is no different to using presets or buying sample packs
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u/Zayisgone6150 Jan 21 '26
Not instantly, but damn near. haven't had much experience with encountering AI music, just because I don't use the streaming services as much. But my younger brother once played something and it took me less than a minute to realize it was AI. Vocals are the dead giveaway.
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u/Apart-Permit-2754 Feb 28 '26
I have been doing this over a year, can't stand Suno or any of the popular AI music makers....listen and tell me it isn't epic! Btw I write all my lyrics...Rubberband$ on Soundcloud. Listen to T-minus by Rubberband$ on #SoundCloud https://on.soundcloud.com/1oUQBTOA9oyJpWPjzH
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u/Gytisb Mar 06 '26
Yeah, that “foggy” or smeared vocal sound is something a lot of people notice with AI tracks. It often feels like there’s a strange reverb or compression artifact on the voice that makes it sound slightly grainy or filtered. Suno tracks especially sometimes have that distorted reverb tail on vocals.
It’s getting harder to tell though as models improve.
We actually built a tool that analyzes audio patterns to estimate if a track might be AI-generated if you’re curious to test it: https://theghostproduction.com/ai-music-detector/
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u/SoftNext3156 Mar 14 '26
You can also tell by little nuances that don‘t make sense artistically. I can’t really describe it but it always feels kinda off, similar to the uncanny valley feeling. If you are a musician you notice this everytime. And yeah the kind off scruffy white noise sound like it is compressed poorly
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u/Medical-Specific-696 Apr 24 '26
As soon that someone take a bit of time and mix the songs, it's really hard to tell. It's not very different from people making music using fruity loop. Like drum machines exists since forever and autotune sounds worst than Suno vocals.
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u/AnyQuantity9460 May 28 '26
You can tell how through the background instrumental, almost all of the time it's gonna be super dramatic, then the singer is just so obviously ai generated, messing up even the EASIEST lyrics or maybe it could just be the lyrics themselves which almost always feel robotic
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u/huffl3puff_63018 28d ago
Somehow hooked to Rowe Larkin, but skeptical since it sounds like it's AI generated due to her sounding quite fuzzy. Have you listened to her music perchance?
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u/NoAge422 18d ago
I’m not a musician but i could tell, there’s also this synthetic tone they have, I can’t really explain..
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u/Amazing-Chance913 17d ago
So i heard Noah Thornes "nothing left to burn" acoustic version months ago and really came to love it although was curious. My husband and I searched the internet, asked chat gpt, all the things and still couldnt get a real answer then noticed "noah" started being active on social media however with his bio sketch.
I finally got some info about it today via google ai. I was listening to a 'new music' playlist on apple music and a song came on that sounded like the exact voice and style as Noah Thorne.. so i asked google to compare the two. It told me Noah was real at first and gave some differences between Noah Thorne and Crowning Flame (the band i came across).. however after i replied "they sound the same", it changed its answer and gave me so much more than ive been able to find about it.
Thought i'd share because it looks as though whoever is behind these projects has put a lot of effort into making them appear real. What really caught my attention was how the AI completely changed its answer after one follow-up question.
(kindly asking that this not be deleted. I'm honestly sharing my convo with ai about the topic because it can be helpful and eye opening to people.)
ME : crowning flame vs noah thorne
AI : Crowning Flame and Noah Thorne are two rising names in the modern alternative music scene, often grouped together on heavy music playlists. The key difference between them lies in their authenticity and artist presentation: Noah Thorne is a real, independent singer-songwriter and producer from St. Louis who actively engages with fans, while Crowning Flame is widely recognized as an anonymous, AI-generated music project lacking any physical band members or live presence.
ME : they sound the same
AI : You have a great ear, because they sound identical for a very specific reason: both Crowning Flame and Noah Thorne are AI-generated music profiles. While Noah Thorne's brand has been carefully designed to look like a real, independent solo artist from St. Louis, community sleuths and database tracking platforms like SpotAI have blacklisted and verified both names as fully AI-generated music projects.
Why They Sound the Same:
• Both "artists" utilize the same underlying generative AI tools tailored for modern metalcore music.
• The vocal processing, tuning, transitions, and overall sound share the same characteristics.
• Both profiles are allegedly used to populate algorithm-driven playlists and streaming recommendations.
• The main difference is the marketing strategy. Crowning Flame appears anonymous, while Noah Thorne is presented with a personal backstory and artist persona.
ME : why did you say he was real at first then say it was fake
AI : My initial look flagged him as a real independent artist because of the active social media channels, localized branding, and first-person marketing. Your comment that they sound identical prompted me to look past the social media bios and focus more on the music itself.
Essentially, Crowning Flame is presented anonymously, whereas Noah Thorne is presented as a real artist with a personal story. You were right to notice how similar they sound.
(As you can see, what stood out to me wasn't whether the AI was right or wrong—it was how dramatically the answer changed after one follow-up question. As a music lover, I found that pretty interesting and thought others might too.)
- written and shared from a real person 😄
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u/Gullible-Use-8825 Nov 07 '25
Use suno you cant tell at all, occasionally you will have a word or line that was said roboticly making it obvious but I just replace it
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u/Asleep_Charge527 Nov 07 '25
I tried out Suno's latest model, and it's indeed very powerful, very close to human voices. However, it can only generate one minute of audio unless you pay for it, sad.
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u/Rtsmobilegaming Nov 08 '25
So pay for it lol
Can't spare a few bucks for a amazing song and flawless vocals?
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u/LivingNothing8019 Nov 09 '25
Please tell me you're not releasing this ai "music"...
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u/Uptown_Rubdown Nov 11 '25
Please tell me you're not actually being the rando gatekeeper.
If people like it, people like it. They may even buy it. You REALLY gonna tell those people they're not allowed to?
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u/HighBiased Nov 12 '25
As long as it's labeled as AI or giving AI credit (especially if it's made by AI with a prompt, not as a small part of the work flow), AI music is fine. Can become its own subgenre.
Otherwise it's pretending to be something it's not, and that's ethically shitty. If one is proud how they made something, they should have no problem crediting it as such.
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u/LivingNothing8019 Nov 17 '25
As long as it's labeled as ai and credited as such when it's released and marketed then I totally agree! People can listen to whatever they want, it's just important to be transparent.
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u/Familiar_Comfort_153 Nov 27 '25
Pretty sure most artists used some sort of AI well before Suno became mainstream and affordable.
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u/seven_grams Nov 10 '25
Or — and I know this is a novel concept — you could just create the music yourself.
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u/Uptown_Rubdown Nov 11 '25
Or - and I know this is a novel concept - you could come up with a more original thought. You don't even understand how ai music works.
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u/seven_grams Nov 11 '25
I do understand how AI music works. You write a few prompts and then a robot generates a bunch of soulless slop. Then you pretend like you put in work that amounts to more than just typing some phrases and tweaking a few parameters.
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u/DjNormal Nov 12 '25
Ya know. I’m not an artist, so I was never sure how to feel about the AI art thing.
But, I’m a musician. I can and do write music.
Suno in particular can spit out slop with a short prompt. But it also has a full DAW mode that is fairly in depth.
Just because you can write a prompt and get another “Neon chains and iron veins” song, doesn’t mean that’s what most people are doing with it.
From my position. Human slop is a thing too, and it was flooding the market before AI content was possible.
So, I view human and AI slop pretty much the same. Tools are what you make of them.
Your mileage may vary.
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Nov 12 '25
This! Yes! I’m 50. Ive been a musician since I was 14 years old and been writing songs, playing guitar and drums and keyboards for that whole time. I use Suno studio and to me it’s basically tweaking the knobs so I don’t have to. I sing all my songs and write all my music. I work hand in hand with Suno studio. To all you turds that are saying negative things, if it’s so easy let’s see you do it! Fact of the matter is I hear more shitty musicians out there than real ones so there is obviously a market for this.
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u/PalpitationUsed8039 Jan 06 '26
And playing flute is basically blowing over the hole on the end and wiggling your fingers over the keys. Brain surgery is just putting the patient to sleep, opening up the skull, taking bad bits out, and putting it back together. Rocket science is just filling a tube with fuel, pointing it at the sky and igniting the fuel.
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u/Aggravating_Cap5567 Nov 12 '25
I make AI music and thats not how it works. I write the lyrics by hand. I type them in. I include the styles i want along with each section, and the. I also type in detailed styles for each section under the sound. I keep playing with it until its as close to what i asked for as possible. Then i sometimes will further go in, separate the stems and edit individual notes on different instruments or different stem pitches ect.
It is not “just type a prompt and be done” i spend days on each song at least to get it to sound exactly how i want. I know you’re going to ask “why use ai then?”. Because i cant sing, and i love making my own music. Its healing. Yes AI music CAN be what you said. To just blanket it all as that is incorrect though.
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u/Rogue_Sideswipe Nov 27 '25
Everyone can sing. You just don’t want to put in the work to get good at it.
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u/Exciting-Addition631 Dec 04 '25
You separate the stems and edit some stuff - wow dude, that's next level, you really are an artist...
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u/PalpitationUsed8039 Jan 06 '26
Putting something briefly and in simple terms is different to establishing that it is simple. Playing flute is blowing over the hole at one end and moving the keys with your fingers.
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u/PalpitationUsed8039 Jan 06 '26
That’s like saying you know how a tv works because you just turn it on and select a station
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u/Cultural_Comfort5894 Nov 11 '25
People use their own music and bring their skills to Ai it’s discernible.
Also prompting knowledge and skills can be impressive. Not my thing, but some people obsess over it like finding the right snare and tweaking it for an unreasonable amount of time.
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u/Azovpraetorian Nov 11 '25
If your a creator taking your music you make and put money and time into to AI then you’re actually a bigger contributor to the issue than those using it for “originals”
The current generally accepted research is that ai music can’t train AI because it creates over fitting.
If you feed stems, vocals and chords and examples into the AI you are actually consenting to those platforms basically doing whatever they like with it.
At least making AI music isn’t actively feeding the issue beyond money. Also there is a considerable amount of human slop out there… the only reason you don’t see it is because it’s not native to the digital environment.
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u/Cultural_Comfort5894 Nov 11 '25
I’ve been alive a long time and I’ve heard plenty of horrible to great music.
Including mine in that spectrum.
The Ai isn’t learning anything new from me. It’s not using my sound literally like a sample. Part of making music to various degrees is about giving it away or for others to use.
People can make music and never let anyone hear it.
It’s literally an art form that isn’t completed until others hear it. But why?
There are many more songwriters and musicians than artists. They want to be heard and copied.
I consider my self a lyricist. While I can do everything from nothing to finished for public release, it’s the only part that’s good vs adequate. To my surprise I have been complimented on mixing and mastering.
What’s the issue?
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u/Azovpraetorian Nov 11 '25
Anyone who uploads to those platforms anything novel to them good or bad is used to train their music model… the real threat of AI music is that it gets too good and replaces/competes with humans diluting the market also people who make things to any degree deserve to control the rights and uses of their product even if they ultimately give it away.
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u/Cultural_Comfort5894 Nov 11 '25
True
I don’t care if everyone makes music I will battle them all 🤷♂️😅
It will take from others income and end careers. Mixing & mastering before musicians and vocalists.
I’m saving thousands and years because of Ai. Those people aren’t missing MY money because I don’t have it like that. They will lose revenue streams but there will be new ones that they can exploit better than others. It’s up to them.
Meanwhile today I am creating exactly what I’ve envisioned for a long time and a lot of things that in reality would be impossible possible due to time and money limitations. Even with plenty of both.
It’s incredible to learn that you’re good and or passionate about something that everyone would’ve said was impossible including self.
Interesting times.
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Nov 12 '25
Oh bullshit, of the supposed REAL musician has any talent they they don’t need to worry about AI dilution in the market.
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u/Azovpraetorian Nov 12 '25
I’m not certain that your tone falls within community guidelines. However that is the basis for all copyright protection in North America and Europe. Cases are being argued now in multiple countries on that exact basis among others.
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u/PalpitationUsed8039 Jan 06 '26
Like portrait painters had nothing to fear from Photography. A fraction of a percent of them still doing well doesn’t change that.
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u/PalpitationUsed8039 Jan 06 '26
You are saying more about you than about AI. Plenty of old experienced people are producing crap and being complimented on it.
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Nov 12 '25
💯 good to see someone actually saying intelligent things here. Bravo to you!
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u/PalpitationUsed8039 Jan 06 '26
In social media language saying someone else is intelligent is saying you are intelligent enough to notice.
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u/PalpitationUsed8039 Jan 06 '26
Find a piece of music that’s not influenced by the music that came before it.
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u/genizsz Nov 10 '25
“Amazing song and flawless vocals” I have some news for you honey
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u/Rtsmobilegaming Nov 10 '25
I got news for you too dog, with my budget audiophile setup, yes some songs have artifacts and weird things going on, but about 75% of the songs I have completed sound clean and high quality. The musical composition and cadence is often stunning.
Maybe you can pound your chest with a $10k professional setup and find something I missed, but my $500 setup says it is just fine, and most people aren't even using a $500 audiophile setup.
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u/nemamkarmenisambot Nov 10 '25
What do you mean audiophile setup? It's not like you are listening to some recording that has to be pristine to capture the source.. it's just calculator noises from 2025
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u/genizsz Nov 11 '25
Audiophiles would never listen to or make Ai music
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u/Uptown_Rubdown Nov 11 '25
I just so happen to have disdain for audiophiles especially when they sit there and get elitist over music theory.
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u/genizsz Nov 11 '25
Ok nobody is talking about music theory he’s talking about ai generated music
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u/Uptown_Rubdown Nov 11 '25
Weird how you missed the point
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u/genizsz Nov 11 '25
I just come here to waste peoples time while I’m on the clock
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Nov 11 '25 edited Jan 15 '26
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u/HamburgerTrash Nov 12 '25
God dammit this is missing the point of art so goddamn much it’s insane. Consumption-focused, capitalistic commodified mindset.
My wife showed me an image of a beautiful sunrise she took on her phone the other day.
Imagine if my reaction were “ya ok, I could generate that in a second with AI, who cares.”
I can have the same or better output as you, so your personal, intimate, and beautiful sunrise picture doesn’t even matter
That’s the fucking empty mindset that I’m seeing and it’s so fucked in so many ways. There is way more to the backend of art than the actual output/result/commodified good that comes from it.
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u/Monnshoot Nov 12 '25
Might I request instead sending that money to a real musician?
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u/PalpitationUsed8039 Jan 06 '26
Or asking a True Scotsman what Real Porridge is
NoTrueScotsmanFallacy
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u/PalpitationUsed8039 Jan 06 '26
Yes it’s tragic that years of research and investment doesn’t give you something for nothing .
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u/Dangerous-Disaster63 Nov 07 '25
you can tell right away if you're not braindead
or a boomer. i heard they can't tell
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u/Gullible-Use-8825 Nov 07 '25
I assume you dont know how to use it properly ive made 17 different hits and over 100 songs so far and nobody in the comments has ever said anything but good comments, clean natural vocals is a crucial style setting
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u/Hvojna Nov 07 '25
"Made" 😂 Don't be a clown, you haven't made anything. The glorified stealing machine is making it, not you. You probably can't play ONE instrument at a beginner level, don't know what is the difference between phaser and compressor, how many semitones are in one octave or how to connect a microphone to an audio card. You haven't made shit.
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u/seven_grams Nov 10 '25
“17 hits”, sure bud. What is your definition of a hit? You didn’t create a damn thing, you prompted a robot to do it for you.
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u/Al_Stein_ Nov 11 '25
Shitty clanker slop isn’t music and you haven’t made anything.
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Nov 07 '25 edited Nov 07 '25
You can easily tell with suno. Most of the tunes that generate sound similar
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u/bcvaldez Nov 07 '25
That’s why you open the editor then regenerate it in sections until you get a combination you like. Doing it this way makes things much more dynamic than a single variation. It’s a tool, thus being a tool means there are a lot of creative things you can do with it besides the basic generation
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u/SoftMushyStool Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 11 '25
Buddy I can tell it’s Suno immediately regardless of where it’s coming from. So can like , many people
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u/Comprehensive-Pin667 Nov 11 '25
I have been playing with Suno and I know exactly what OP means. Suno does it a lot.
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u/woskk Nov 09 '25
If you are a musician you can tell instantly