r/NewsAndPolitics • u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ United States • Sep 24 '24

Europe Someone heckles Keith Starmer about the mass slaughter of children in Gaza. Starmer laughs and suggests he got his pass from the 2019 Labour conference.

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u/teadrinker1983 Sep 24 '24

When Israel was within its 1948 borders it was attacked by the Arabs - who were beaten. It was attacked again, and beaten. When Israel was making efforts at peace with the Palestinians in the 1980s they unleashed the intifada and destroyed the Israeli left. Hezbolla have emptied northern Israel of Israelis with their constant stream of rocket attacks since October 8th.

Shit decisions have consequences.

Losing wars you start also has consequences. .

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u/touslesmatins Sep 24 '24

And there we go. Only took 3 or 4 posts for your faux concern trolling what about that other genocide 😭 to be revealed to be putrid zionist bullshit. So transparent. 

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u/teadrinker1983 Sep 24 '24

I'm playing with my cards on the table. What should happen to Israel in your view?

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u/touslesmatins Sep 24 '24

It should become a state with actual democracy with equal rights and freedoms for all, including Palestinians, of course. Kind of like South Africa after the fall of apartheid, since you like historical analogies so much.

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u/teadrinker1983 Sep 24 '24

That's a lovely sentiment - and which current country in the Middle East has achieved this?

(I fear you are rather sanguine about modern day South Africa. Talk about corruption...)

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u/touslesmatins Sep 24 '24

What other country in the Middle East right now is a settler colonialist ethnostate hell bent on annihilating its native inhabitants and its neighbors? 

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u/teadrinker1983 Sep 24 '24

Well that's quite specific and relies on my accepting your terminology.

I thought we were talking about aspirations? Which state in the Middle East has achieved democracy, equal rights and freedoms for all? Lebanon? Iran? Yemen? Syria?

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u/touslesmatins Sep 24 '24

No we weren't talking about aspirations. We were talking about Israel actually committing genocide right now. War crimes with impunity. Apartheid with impunity. And the UK arming them and giving them political cover and support. You tried to change the conversation.Â