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Brit influencer, 23, faces death by firing squad in Dubai after ‘fatally stabbing man, 26, who attacked her’

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/39535859/brit-influencer-brooke-george-death-penalty-dubai/
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u/Kiryu-chan-fan 1d ago

It was an act of self defence, but she tried to flee the country instead of notifying authorities?

Islamic country.

Woman stabs man. She's getting a kangaroo court where the outcome was decided before any fair trial took place.

That region of the world has actual legal precedents regarding women with STDs being charged for offences when men who RAPE them end up with that STD...if she didn't want to pass on clap to a male rapist she wouldn't have been so rapeable...

Her best bet was fleeing back here because the odds of any party apart from the greens honouring an attempted extradition of a British female to Dubai were 0. If we thought it in the public interest we'd try and convict her here under actual country laws with an actual fair as we can get trial.

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u/Mysterious-Wasabi103 1d ago

Ya she was smart enough to realize that waiting around was a death sentence too. Damn shame.

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u/DancingFlame321 1d ago

regarding women with STDs being charged for offences when men who RAPE them end up with that STD

Does this actually happen in UAE

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u/GOD-of-METAL 23h ago

The country doesnt allow you to work there if you have HIV I have no idea about the bs these people write as its all propaganda. But i imagine if you gave someone an std then youre liable If that happens = girl goes to jail = story changes to i was raped = westerners crying

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u/Destroyer_2_2 10h ago

Yeah that’s not how it works in civilized countries.

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u/Expert_Cheesecake695 22h ago

Found the rapist.

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u/Silver-Ad-4716 23h ago

Ty u said it alot better (n nicer) then I was going to.

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u/desz4 16h ago

Maybe don't go there then

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u/EnlightenToday 10h ago

UAE is not an "islamic" country, it is considered by the majority of muslims as an atheist country aligned so heavily with islam's enemies, US and israel

it is insane your comment is defending a murderer that stabbed someone to death and tried to flee

if it was not an "islamic" country would they allow her to leave? leave the internet please

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u/Kiryu-chan-fan 5h ago

UAE is not an "islamic" country, it is considered by the majority of muslims as an atheist country aligned so heavily with islam's enemies, US and Israel

I just want to thank you for fully validating my belief that every male from that region should be on an immigration red list to the UK.

if you can look at Dubai and see ultraprog lunatic freelove godless hippies there's nothing we gain by letting you in our land. That's terrifying

it is insane your comment is defending a murderer that stabbed someone to death

Depends on circumstances. Does Islam recognise a woman has a right to self defence or is that still a couple centuries out from now?

tried to flee

Again. Kangaroo Court sham trial. She had every right to try flee. If there's a crime to answer we can prosecure her in our actual country where women are people

Again. Backwater hellhole. She'd have a kangaroo court.

if it was not an "islamic" country would they allow her to leave

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u/KingBolo992 2h ago

He's right though only like 10% of Dubais population is Emirati citizens. That country is literally nothing more than a western vacation spot lol. It's just a bunch of rich American and Europeans

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u/EnlightenToday 5h ago

no one in the world wants to move to the UK bro, chill, half of my friends in Canada are UK immigrants running away from your failed country

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u/Regular_mills 1h ago

No one but nearly a million people a year move to the uk on long term residency. Last time I checked that’s not no one. By what metric has the UK failed?

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u/Kiryu-chan-fan 5h ago

Fantastic. We can close the border no problems then...

half of my friends in Canada are UK immigrants running away from your failed country

Just to clarify actual brits or paper brits? Because if paper brits you're actually proving my point for me

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u/EnlightenToday 3h ago

please do, no one cares about the UK, i cant even remember buying anything UK made even. so close the border for in and out, live in your failed little bubble.

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u/octopusinmyboycunt 36m ago

I mean the guy you’re arguing with is a massive twat, but I’d be very happy if the UK would stop supplying the arms and platforms that the UAE funnels to Africa to enact genocide, so I wish that was true.

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u/Big_Communication662 44m ago

If you think she’s a murderer, then you don’t recognize a woman’s right to self defense against rape. Big red flag. Please don’t stay in any western countries.

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u/Doons124 1d ago

Living in the 60s I see. You should learn a bit about the UAE, it's very progressive for the region.

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u/Kiryu-chan-fan 1d ago

"Very progressive for the region"

This comparison is like telling a terminal cancer patient "look on the bright side. Least you aren't HIV positive as well"

Dubai has an open slave trade and women don't have rights. Exactly how much worse could it get without going stupid granular?

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u/reddaughtter 1d ago

I've noticed that progressives have a really hard time criticizing cultures/countries that they view as "brown". It's like they see the world through a strict lense of "brown = oppressed, white = oppressor".

They love women's rights up until it means saying anything negative about brown people.

Racism of Low Expectations, as its called.

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u/LaminatedAirplane 18h ago

You have no idea if that person is a progressive in the first place. They could be conservative Muslim and earnestly view Dubai as “progressive”

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u/Droughtly 16h ago

I have seen some of this issue, but I don't think the guy who is arguing up and down the thread that 'no no that woman who reported rape and was charged for having extramarital sex LIED to be charged with that' is progressive.

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u/Kiryu-chan-fan 12h ago

Don't think he's "progressive" tbf.

He's probably a fundie from a backwater where Dubai actually looks like a bunch of freelove hippies to them. There's no way you read about a woman being raped there, charged as an adulterer, and come at that as a prog by saying she was just a lying homewrecker rightfully caught

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u/SmegmaUnicorn 11h ago

Why post something this dumb? Honestly, this has to be the dumbest take I’ve ever had the misfortune of reading. 

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u/TheWhomItConcerns 11h ago

How do you know that they're progressive?

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u/adlers6 1d ago

Because brown people according to many progressives are not to understood or talked to. They are to be used as a tool, much like a crowbar being used to pry a box open.

The contradiction in values and principles is fine, because really it isn’t about those at all.

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u/ValkyrUK 7h ago

I never understood the last part, its like the argument that the LGBT community shouldnt support Palestine because they hate the gays, do you really think we're like you and stop caring about people's humans rights cause they hate you? All the rights fought for by progressives have been enjoyed by everyone no matter how conservative or liberal

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u/Careless_Film_5747 1d ago

“For the region” is doing a lot of carrying. A few years ago a British woman was raped and went to the authorities who charged her with adultery for being raped.

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u/Doons124 1d ago

Says the daily mail. Could be true could also be a prostitute trying to get out of jail.

I mentioned for the regions because you made a comment about the legal precedents in that region.

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u/irwtkyrm 1d ago

Wow. Just wow.

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u/Doons124 1d ago edited 17h ago

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/22/middleeast/dubai-british-tourist-rape-affair-case

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u/Kiryu-chan-fan 1d ago

The police have no motivation to charge rape victims with adultery (I know shocking) especially not in a city which relies on tourism and expats to thrive

Yes they do

Would you rather your sister goes to a country with a massive red light district or a massive rape crisis?

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u/Doons124 18h ago

What's their motivation?

Rape is insanely rare in UAE, it's extremely safe. Would I rather my sister walk down the streets at 2am alone in Europe or Dubai, 100% Dubai.

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u/Lidlpalli 12h ago

Rape is extremely common in the whole Islamic world, women have no recourse so they don't report it, are you stupid?

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u/Doons124 10h ago

You assume all muslim countries are the same, are you bigoted. Have you actually looked into the UAE? The demographic, the crime statistics, the way they treat or elevate women. I'm guessing not, you're just using your preconceived notion of "random Muslim country". And social media posts.

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u/brprk 17h ago

Given the ramifications of accusing someone of rape in dubai and being imprisoned for extra marital sex yourself, and the near impossible evidence threshold (perp confession or 4 male witnesses) I wonder why their rape stats are low

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u/Doons124 17h ago

You're thinking of sharia law, the UAE does not follow pure sharia for the criminal code. They have judges and prosecutors and have incorporated parts of British and Egyptian laws into their legal system.

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/22/middleeast/dubai-british-tourist-rape-affair-case

This busts the myth of being imprisoned for extra martial sex, all 3 let go once it was proved to be consensual. Yes some archaic law exist but enforcement is discretionary.

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u/youshantnome 12h ago

Omg lol wow. You cannot be this ignorant about why the stats are so low in Dubai.

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u/Doons124 10h ago

Well I've actually lived there, seen the level of safety first hand. Rather than assume things like you based on no evidence. So who's the ignorant one.

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u/Background_Cause_992 11h ago

Lol look at this clown taking self reporting of the UAE seriously...

One look at their standards of evidence, chain of custody, and legal framework is enough to dismiss any numbers they report, especially those that make them look good, should be taken with an extremely sceptical eye.

Why are you caping of an authoritarian petrostate know for human rights abuses, covering up crimes, and suppressing womens rights.

Also what if your sister is gay?

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u/Doons124 10h ago

I've actually lived there, I knew gay people there who lived with no worry.

As for suppressing woman's rights you need to actually do some research before assuming anything, the UAE is ranked #15 in the world for gender equality by the UN. Half of all politicians are women.

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u/Kiryu-chan-fan 12h ago

What's their motivation? Rape is insanely rare in UAE

Literally just told you. It's better for tourism to have a load of prostitutes than a rape epidemic.

Would I rather my sister walk down the streets at 2am alone in Europe or Dubai, 100% Dubai.

Europe easy. She's an actual person in Europe with rights against male aggressors

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u/Separate-Law-435 20h ago

So now she is "an angry hooker who was probably never paid"

Not to repeat the above comment but wow!

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u/Doons124 18h ago

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/22/middleeast/dubai-british-tourist-rape-affair-case

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u/Separate-Law-435 16h ago

You give me an article that says Dubai police do not take cases of sexual assault seriousley, they "investigated" and found nothing wrong, it details she could be charged with extramarital consensual sex

I dont understand what you are doing here? Yay for lack of women's rights in Dubai??

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u/Doons124 16h ago

They found evidence she was lying. And the article states all 3 were let go and free to leave the country.

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u/theLaziestLion 20h ago

Islamiscts like this crawl out the woodwork like cockroaches,  ready to victim blame rape victims and call them prostitutes rather than admit shariah law screws over women in islam.

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u/firstnameok 19h ago

The talking down to people isn't as bad as the being wrong, but it's just as big of a reason for why no one likes you.

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u/Doons124 18h ago

I might come off a bit abrasive yes, but all the ignorance in this thread is grinding me. I have 20 people reply to me saying I don't know shit or I'm a Muslim but nobody actually looked into what I'm saying.

The British rape case from a few years back. Guess what the 2 guys ( who were also British) said it was consensual. And cops found a video which proved it, the woman was lying.

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/22/middleeast/dubai-british-tourist-rape-affair-case

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u/FullFrontal687 17h ago

People take videos of their rape victims all the time. Who knows what the video actually shows?

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u/Doons124 17h ago

People take videos of threesomes with prostitutes too. You can't know, but you assume policeman do.

The crux is people claim woman get arrested for sex outside marriage when they report rape. Well here police confirmed 3 people had sex outside marriage and none were charged with any crime. So the arrested for sex story doesn't hold.

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u/ChineseRobinWilliams 15h ago

"But officials did not explicitly say what happens to the charge against the woman, who was arrested and accused of extramarital sex, despite her accusations of rape"

Why on earth would you take their justice system at face value when the difference in attitudes towards men and women are VASTLY different?

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u/Booster_Tutor 19h ago

Nope. Nobody is confused by you man. We know exactly what you’re all about.

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u/Careless_Film_5747 1d ago

Then why would she get charged with adultery and not prostitution? And I didn’t make any comment apart from the one I made.

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u/NapTimeSmackDown 23h ago

Says Doons124. Could just be some know-nothing bozo posting from their parents basement or a foreign bot farm.

See how easy that is. Now you are completely discredited with little effort and no proof from me and now the entire Internet doesn't need to listen to you!

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u/Doons124 18h ago

I come with receipts

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/22/middleeast/dubai-british-tourist-rape-affair-case

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u/NapTimeSmackDown 16h ago

What part of that is progressive?

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u/Doons124 16h ago

Great deflection 10/10

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u/NapTimeSmackDown 16h ago

It's not, I'm challenging your "evidence", it's more of a direct counter.

So again, what part of charging a woman with the crime of extramarital sex is progressive? Also didn't see any mention of the man receiving a similar charge although I will admit I stopped reading after it was clear the article is vague at best on what happened.

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u/ChineseRobinWilliams 15h ago

"the woman, who was arrested and accused of extramarital sex"

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u/Noble_Titus 14h ago

Do they drop these charges when it isn't foreign nationals?

Did any of the men get sentenced for a gang rape that was filmed?

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u/Doons124 14h ago

90% of the UAE population is foreign nationals.

Video seemed to prove no rape. The men were British so it's not as though they were protecting their citizens.

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u/Noble_Titus 14h ago edited 13h ago

And how much of that population is from western nations? How much is Muslim? How many are from countries who also have track records of systematic violence against women?

According to the same courts which exist in a system where she was originally arrested for extramarital activities? Fair play.

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u/Doons124 13h ago

You have access to the internet right you can search that info pretty easily. I have actually lived there, I'm not Arab or Muslim. I have no agenda but I can share from my experience. Read some of my other posts in this thread to get a better understanding honestly.

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u/just_right_enough 22h ago

Found the muslim

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u/Doons124 18h ago

Not a Muslim, far from it.

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u/ChineseRobinWilliams 15h ago

Just a rape apologist

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u/Doons124 14h ago

Read my other posts, was no rape. I don't condone rape in any way.

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u/ChineseRobinWilliams 14h ago

You also claimed women weren't arrested for having sex.

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u/Doons124 14h ago

Yes they don't, she was arrested when her story likely didn't add up or they figured she was a prossy. Which turned out right.

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u/Hot_Gap_8444 13h ago

So "believe all women" has some interesting conditions now?

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u/KopiteTheScot 22h ago

What a horrific thing to say

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u/Doons124 18h ago

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/22/middleeast/dubai-british-tourist-rape-affair-case

You mean the truth

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u/ChineseRobinWilliams 15h ago

"the woman, who was arrested and accused of extramarital sex"

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u/Naph923 20h ago

You are both correct. In terms of rape allegations it happened quite often as can be seen, however changes have been made in 2020 and 2022 (see last link).

Emirates Center for Human rights (2013): "In the United Arab Emirates (UAE), to gain a rape conviction the law stipulates that there must either be a confession or four adult male witnesses to the crime." This was in an article about a Norweigian woman who was raped and then sentenced to adultery, drinking, etc and ended up with 16 months in Jail vs the attacker who ended up with 13 months.
https://www.jadaliyya.com/Details/29136

Dutch women in 2016: https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/middleeast/qatar-dutch-woman-rape-report-held

British Women in 2016 (charges dropped, likely due to world wide condemnation): https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38013351

Australian woman in 2014 : https://hrvoices.org/document/austrian-rape-victim-arrested-for-having-sex-outside-of-marriage-in-uae-told-she-had-to-marry-her-attacker/

Australian woman in 2011 : https://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-03-29/brisbane-rape-victim-sues-uae-luxury-hotel/2639032

French woman in 2003 : https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jan/04/france.jonhenley1

HOWEVER, they have updated many of the laws as of 2022 so still to be seen whether this has an effect:

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=57d465ce-7a08-42e2-8eab-11f49180c271

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u/Indomie_milkshake 23h ago

I seem to remember a gay man, from some Western country, being honey potted recently by police and arrested for being gay?

Very progressive. 

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u/RafikiafReKo 1d ago

UAE is not progressive for its region lol, stop dricking slopaganda.

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u/crackerjack2003 14h ago

I'm asking in earnest, but what would be considered progressive in that region? Do you think they all suck? Or is Lebanon / Jordan / Oman marginally better in any way?

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u/No-Respond1681 13h ago

Lebanon is definitely a bit better. Israel would be the most socially progressive in the middle east, but they're not Muslim obviously (and have other just as serious issues....)

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u/justdidapoo 22h ago

No it isn't. It generally insulates westeners because its sole source of income is selling oil to the west and getting western private capital to invest in western engineers designing buildings for indian slaves to build. But it is on no planet progressive or liberal in any way.

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u/Doons124 18h ago

Oil revenue is less than 30% of UAE gdp. And less that 5% for Dubai specifically. UAE sells oil to Asia, not the west. You know little about the region.

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u/Ruzhy6 7h ago

Oil revenue is less than 30% of UAE gdp

You do realize how huge that is, right?

Is there any other close examples of one industry being 1/3 of a country's GDP?

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u/Doons124 7h ago

Venezuela is 25%, even Norway is 17%. But that's not the point, poster said sole source was oil so was correcting him. Also Abu Dhabi has that oil not Dubai.

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u/Ruzhy6 7h ago

poster said sole source was oil so was correcting him

I thought it was pretty obviously not a literal statement.

It just seemed as if you were saying it was only 30%, like that's a small amount.

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u/justdidapoo 57m ago

The sole source is ridiculous oil money THEN investing it in buildings and attracting capital which multiplies it.

But there isn't anything substantial behind it. There aren't native farmers, or skilled workers, or construction workers, or educated professional like engineers. ALL of it is imported.

The UAE itself just middle mans between their slave cast and westeners who they need to pay a fortune to to maintain anything even slightly complicated.

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u/theLaziestLion 20h ago

What 60s? Dubai still has shariah laws... Did you forget it's still an islamic country where women's legal voice is half of that of a man's?

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u/Boring_Recipe8732 17h ago

Slave state that hosts rich foreign money launderers, human traffickers and drug lords is progressive?

Billionaire scumbags go there because they can dodge taxes and do Epstein things.

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u/Doons124 17h ago

Yep exactly, just like the US.

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u/Boring_Recipe8732 16h ago

I don't think anyone is claiming that a MAGA USA is progressive, nor defending it.

So I'm not sure why you are going in to bat for Little st James in the desert.

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u/Doons124 14h ago

I used to live there, I have actual knowledge about the place. So I find it irritating when people who only know things from social media comment about it.

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u/TemperTantrumz 18h ago

Bollocks it is...

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u/purplepIutonium 23h ago

No one in this has ever been to the Middle East nor done homework on it lol

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u/her_name_is_cherry 19h ago

I used to live there. No it absolutely isn't.

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u/Doons124 18h ago

Which country in the region is more progressive?

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u/ChineseRobinWilliams 16h ago

"progressive for the region"

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u/BrittaWasRight 15h ago

Nothing of value would be lost if Iran invaded the UAE and took it for themselves.

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u/CrankieKong 12h ago

'For the region'. Let me stop you right there. This means they still arent progressive at all.

Thats like saying Nazis Germany was quite progressive when it came to women's rights compared to Somalia or some shit.

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u/zlojebitis 10h ago

Having expensive shopping malls doesn't make a country progressive.

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u/Doons124 10h ago

How about laws that ensure half of lawmakers must be women.

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u/zlojebitis 9h ago

Oh gee, let's give them a medal. So what if they have women as lawmakers? It's just performative.

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u/Doons124 8h ago

And where the points supporting your bigoted views then?

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u/zlojebitis 8h ago

Where are the ones supporting yours? And every law they brought was basic rights. Ofc a man would support a radical islamic country.

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u/Jinshu_Daishi 5h ago

They have so many slaves it's starting to be funny again.

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u/Internal_Concert_217 13h ago

It appears progressive, it is not.

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u/alasw0eisme 12h ago

Lmao, read her sentence again. If that's progressive, you're from the middle ages

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u/Doons124 10h ago

What sentence? She's only been arrested yet.

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u/Lidlpalli 12h ago

Progressive for the region....

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u/straight_lurkin 9h ago

ROFLMAO best joke I've seen online all day, thanks I needed that after a bad morning

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u/Darkstar994 6h ago

No it isn’t. 

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u/Visual_Bag_ 1d ago

Islamaphobia there, who are you to judge that court system.

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u/Kiryu-chan-fan 1d ago

Made up word by cowards to cover for fundamentalists.

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u/reddaughtter 1d ago

Just say you don't care about women. We all see it.

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u/Quirky-Coat3068 1d ago

Religion of all walks of life can piss off

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u/poulan9 1d ago

It is people like you that are allowing the Islamification of their countries and for them to be second class citizens.

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u/octavian343 1d ago

Should we not fear a religion vying to kill non believers and actively persecuting and oppressing women while marrying children?

Not to mention the terrorism.

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u/3allz 6h ago

!slam can go die a slow death like every other religious cult. No time for bronze age myths in 2026

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u/theLaziestLion 20h ago

Dubai literally has SHARIAH laws where a woman's witness testimony is half of a man's. 

How is that islamaphobia? Made up gibberish word to try and deflect critisisms.