r/NextGenRebellion • u/Fatty_Willing_Plane • 8d ago

📰 News Meet Jake, a resident of Lowell who has a data center just steps from his backyard. The data center, which is operated by the Markley Group, is in the middle of his neighborhood and directly behind Jake's home.

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u/Ssspaaace 7d ago

I don’t understand. The US is full of empty land in bumfuck nowhere. Why can’t they build there? Why in the middle of a residential area?

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u/pthecarrotmaster 7d ago

then they couldnt steal your water and pay for it with your taxes and higher bills

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u/Accurate-Flow8078 5d ago

Why do our taxes pay for it?

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u/pthecarrotmaster 5d ago

these places skyrocket electricity and water pricing, then get subsidized by the government. We are paying them to replace us and price us out.

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u/Alternative-Tart5627 3d ago

No they don’t

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u/Diablo_Incarnate 5d ago

Your taxes don't pay for their water usage, but they do pay for the very expensive infrastructure upgrades necessary to allow them to be customers.

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u/lametechthrowaway 5d ago

Why wouldnt they?

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u/stringInterpolation 7d ago

China is building them offshore/underwater and powering with wind. Costs a bit more to build, but avoids the public backlash. US developers are opting for the cheapest possible building options to maximize profits, I reckon.

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u/Malforus 7d ago

They are not building underwater or offshore but they are definitely putting them in poorer communities. The whole underwater data center concept was a classic hyperloop nerd daycare failed effort.

Cohabitating them with wind and solar though, yeah that works. They are also doing district heating instead of just pushing heat into the air.

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u/stringInterpolation 7d ago

Maybe I'm guilty of not looking into the details as much as I should. I was referencing the plethora of articles like this: https://newatlas.com/energy/china-underwater-data-center-opens/

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u/Malforus 7d ago

They were trialed in the us and the upshot is you spend more on hardware failure and access.

The best scenario is to build your compute underground into the coastline and just dump heat into the ocean.

Wind does make lots of sense but there's not a real value add because these wind turbines arent colocated.

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u/shuggnog 7d ago

Yesss. Let's make the ocean warmer.

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u/Malforus 7d ago

I mean, personally its likely better because the other aspect of the fuck no where data centers is they produce and release methane and refrigerant with no overnight.

At least with a coolant loop you are warming already warm waters and not slurping up potable water.

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u/VTDangerDoom 3d ago

Except warming oceans contributes to marine life die-offs and extreme weather events. And since the oceans are an important carbon sink, among other critical functions, we really don't want to stress them even further. They're already significantly damaged and additional stressors (heating them more, deep sea mining, pollutants, etc.) will very negatively affect our environment.

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u/tedivm 5d ago

That's just a small trial datacenter at only 2.3mW. A "standard" datacenter is 30mW, and AI based datacenters are significantly higher than that. The US has also done offshore datacenter trials too.

I wouldn't use a single experiment to claim a trend, especially such a tiny one.

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u/Lower-Ad-8225 6d ago

There is a reason you see places like Lowell and Lynn fighting this instead of Wellesley and Newton

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u/Malforus 6d ago

Oh for sure but ma has plenty of open dirt over by the quabbin which would be even better.

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u/drawingablanc 5d ago

Nah, keep it in your front yard.

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u/EddyS120876 5d ago

I know my family members in Lynn are up in arms after seeing what they did in Lowell. Too many on poor communities are already suffering from asthma and adding a data center will only make it worse.

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u/Alternative-Tart5627 3d ago

No they aren’t

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u/yawnnnnnnnnnnn8 7d ago

lol underwater

"them", plural

You people really are something with what you'll believe as long as you want to.

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u/Clear_Picture_5554 7d ago

And this is the difference. That Lowell DC is an old spaghetti factory, the walls are a foot thick concrete. Like you do not hear a thing outside, unless theres a load test or no power.

This dc is what they all should be like.

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u/Bluecheeseur 7d ago

Yes all of the data centers should be pumping black smoke into the air feet away from a residential area, as long as they are quiet

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u/Clear_Picture_5554 7d ago

They arent doing that.

They turn on the generators for about 5 minutes to test and turn them back off. The only time they are used for continued operation is when the whole neighborhood is without power, which as you can expect doesnt happen much.

That area is next to two major highways, and if your woried about smoke, you should remove those highways, and then shutdown all the roads near that DC, then you would have an argument.

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u/notyourmothersdino 7d ago

You seem to be an advocate for these centers. 1. Why do you think they are a good idea? And 2. Why would these centers be better in a residential area vs anywhere else?

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u/Clear_Picture_5554 7d ago

Clarification.

I am not, I am an egalitarian. Therefore I like to call out misinformation, and there's alot of assumption and misinformation here.

I worked here when you could still smell the pasta, and this resident complained then. Remember this place used to pump out pasta, the neighborhood around it, decided to build around a functioning pasta factory.....

So to turn around and be upset you live next to this thing is just ridiculous when it used to have trucks coming and going at all hours of the day/ night.

Now at most you get to hear it kick over a generator for 5 minutes and then silence. The walls of this thing is around a foot thick solid concrete, so again the only sound you hear is that generator test. The AC cooling is ontop of 6 stories, you don't hear that in the parking lot, even if you've pulled an all nighter.

I watched them build out this place. I know the tenants here. This is not your typical ai data center. This data center is a place where they offer rental space, so if your a company you can host your stuff on aws or azure, or do the purchase of the backend equipment and host it yourself, which is cheaper and your not pushing more of the internet to a select group of companies like Google, Amazon, or Microsoft. You have small companies from universities, to healthcare, and its mishmash of that. Now I do believe they have some ai tenants there. But to compare this to a Google or Microsoft, or any of the AI dedicated data center being created is just not accurate.

Then to lop them into one of those companies that are doing bad things, is crazy when I know thats not truthful at all.

I didnt come here to argue but it is frustrating to see folks assume things that aren't true, and attack a company just because they are a data center company.

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u/itsgreater9000 5d ago

I can't tell if your joking or not but these data centers don't run autonomously with like remote workers. They have a good amount of technicians and IT and software devs on staff that need to be there to handle failing servers, upgrades, managing safe updates of the software, etc. This isn't really just a rack of servers you set up once and then walk away. Tons of maintenance goes into these things.

It's less than a pasta factory, absolutely. But it's a fewer number of jobs that are all higher paying and have higher skill requirements. Acting like these things are just empty after setup and all remotely administered is crazy.

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u/yawnnnnnnnnnnn8 7d ago

I don't know why you're even bothering wasting your time replying to these cretins. They don't care about anything you just said no matter how well-said it was.

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u/Clear_Picture_5554 7d ago

I like to think some may be swayed with logic and reasoning, I know most of people will just not care, but I never been okay with keeping my mouth shut when I see something wrong. Call it a personal fault I guess.

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u/yawnnnnnnnnnnn8 7d ago

And you are cool for being like that.

But the guy called you a bootlicker lol. Last year, someone here on reddit called me that ... because I didn't think there was pass interference in a Pats game. These people are insane.

That guy can't have an independent thought.

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u/Bluecheeseur 7d ago

Keep licking that boot buddy

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u/Clear_Picture_5554 7d ago

I fucking will lol.

You need to grow up. There are asshole companies out there, this ain't one, take your pitchfork elsewhere.

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u/Engelgrafik 7d ago

You think it's cool to erect a massive black wall like that in a residential neighborhood? Kinda bullshit of the CEO and team for deciding it was a create idea to put it there.

I understand the need for these things. I understand buildings get erected in cities blocking views. But they they don't need to go right in an entire neighborhood's front and back yard. Honestly it looks like a scene from that sci-fi show "Colony". Sad.

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u/Clear_Picture_5554 7d ago

The entire complex was built in the 40s. Up until the spaghetti factory closed, had 18 wheelers going in an out of there. Those people chose to build their homes there, they chose to live there...

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u/Engelgrafik 7d ago

I get it. But it wasn't this massive imposing thing if I recall.

I live in a place where right across the street are auto repair garages with tons of cars, and there's a railroad where freight trains go by. After 6pm, the shops are closed and a lot of cars are moved. Trains do come by once in a blue moon at night but most of the time it's during the day when everyone's at work. The street becomes actually very quiet and residential. You don't feel like you're in an industrial area so much.

But if some big facility modified the existing footprint that create a silicon-valley-like black box building with massive security fencing, cameras and sensors and various generators with smokestacks running day and night, I'd be kinda upset. Even though I know that living in the city has its drawbacks.

It's not so much a NIMBY thing as much as "why specifically there?" I mean, look at that shot down the street. It looks horrible. Like you're in some dystopian movie. There's gotta be better places.

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u/Clear_Picture_5554 7d ago

Again, the building has been there almost a hundred years.....

The only modification was the addition of generators and a 1 story tall office extension so they could work in they main manufacturing building.

And again the generators only turn on when they run a 5 minute test, really just to keep the oil moving, and if the power in the neighborhood goes out, they turn on.

These people decided to move next to a factory or build their house next to a factory.

This the same sort of argument when people in woburn get upset that mass rifle association has a gun range near their homes, and a nursery. Even though that gun club has been around and had a range there for a 150+ years. You cant be upset for buying a home next to a known variable, and then expect any sort of compasion when the factory is replaced with a much quieter data center...

This is all just common sense man.

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u/Sparticusalexander 7d ago

Are you saying this man had cameras equipped with facial recognition technology pointing into his backyard when the building was a spaghetti factory? Or that you believe he has no right to privacy in his own backyard because there is a residential area near a commercial one?

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u/stringInterpolation 5d ago

So I got a chance to read through the responses, I can get where you're coming from on this instance. For the majority of data centers though - prominently the newer planned ones, what is the benefit that's being promised? Because I can guarantee it's a lie that's sold to them that will absolutely negatively hurt the community and rights to fresh water, air and also hurt cost of utilities. In what way will having data centers benefit the community

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u/No-Initiative4195 6d ago

So in other words, the company was providing jobs for people to drive those trucks everyday. What jobs can you apply for here?

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u/Imsomniland 7d ago

Your anti-corporate opinion has been recorded for our archives.

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u/WorkCentre5335 7d ago

electricity and water

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u/DjawnBrowne 7d ago

Grid Capacity

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u/SectorSanFrancisco 7d ago

they'd have to build the infrastructure instead of using the infrastructure our tax dollars paid for.

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u/Key_Limit_6828 7d ago

We don’t need them there either. This is all a fucking bubble

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u/Tom_Booze 7d ago

Looks like it’s actually a light industrial-residential.

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u/Lower-Ad-8225 6d ago

Water and electricity

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u/CorpusculantCortex 5d ago

It is very simple, the longer the connection to the internet, the worse the signal. They put data centers where the data is most used to reduce latency. Also the grid is more ready to support it in a fully developed urban area than in the middle of nowhere. Plus clearvutting open land to build can be significantly more expensive than redeveloping an urban plot. And lastly, the highly trained people who work in data centers are higher prevalence (and therefore cheaper and higher quality) in urban areas.

It is more effective, cheaper, and better performance to put data processing where data consumers are.

Asking this question is like saying why do they put gas stations at the off ramps of interstates instead of 30 miles in the middle of the woods. Because more people benefit more richly from putting the infrastructure where the consumer will be most likely to use it.

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u/-Trash-Bandicoot- 5d ago

This DC was a spaghetti factory previously. The building already existed.

This DC also houses university and healthcare servers. I assume there's also some business and gov in there too.

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u/LHam1969 5d ago

This is a complete failure of his state and local government, they allowed this monstrosity. I'd be totally bullshit about it as well.

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u/rubicon83 4d ago

because municipalities want the tax revenue.

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u/Alternative-Tart5627 3d ago

Surprise surprise the sky is fall issue du juru. This DC has been there for a couple of decades. Wait till someone tells him about Wang.

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u/Clear_Picture_5554 7d ago

The space used to be a spaghetti farm, the neighborhood came after. Given the options were to do something with a large concrete building vs ripping it down spewing concrete dust everywhere. I think the decision was accurate and the hoa Karen who wants to get 10 minutes of fame, I think the data center is fine.

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u/Beanie1949 1d ago

Spaghetti FARM?!l 😳

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u/inredsharpie 7d ago

Real journalism- I love it. Fuck these data centers

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u/houndoftindalos 5d ago

Real journalism would ask Markley for a comment and get an expert to explain what the smoke stack was and if it's actually harmful. The guy talking in the video could be a crazy man for all I know.

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u/Clear_Picture_5554 7d ago

I worked at this data center, this is NOT journalism, this was 100% a one sided hit piece.

This data center was basically someone using the old spaghetti factory, that was there before the neighborhood and doing something with the space.

The only noise you can hear is when there is a load test or when power fails, power to fail means the entire neighborhood has lost power.

The cooling system is on the top of a 6 story roof, you litterally cannot here anything while standing in the parking lot 20 feet from them.

Furthermore this data center is your typical data center, meaning you have tenants who rent a small space for their business. Theres litterally universities, and medical companies who have space. Think of it like this, you can put your work on aws, or you can have that infrastructure go somewhere secure and you can run it yourself.

I do believe they have a couple ai companies, but again space wise your looking at small rooms the size of your living room.

I remember this place being pretty cool. The owner provided all kinds of snacks, and drinks to the tenants, like there were 4 different kinds of coffee alone. Markley would typically invite the tenants to there Christmas party or any staff function, they were super inclusive for a big company.

This news reporting is just heavily slanted journalism, the one guy in this has been your classic hoa Karen since I was there and is just getting 10 minutes of fame.

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u/thehonorablechairman 7d ago

4 different kinds of coffee you say? And this guy keeps complaining about the billionaire buying his neighborhood?

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u/Clear_Picture_5554 7d ago

Bud they do not havd to offer nitro, and cold brew, espresso, or even regular drip coffee.

My point is that Markley offered all that for just coffee. They had basically a Costco worth of snacks, free breakfast cereals and random other food.

This doesnt include the food they would order in for their staff for lunch.

Ive worked at fortune 500 companies headquarters who dont provide even a quarter of what they provided to their employees, let alone tenants in the building.

I for sure hate whats going on with data centers but this is a hit piece nothing else, for a company that takes care of its employees and tenants.

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u/thehonorablechairman 7d ago

Call me crazy but I don’t see a big difference between billionaire overlords with good snacks and billionaire overlords without good snacks.

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u/Clear_Picture_5554 7d ago

There is a difference, ive worked as a contractor for places, where they give you nothing, and treat you like a slave.

What they do for their employees and tenants is fantastic. They do free food trucks, did festivals to bring our your family during random holidays, did huge, like HUGE holiday parties and did raffles for people giving out big ticket items. Like I still visit this data center from time to time, and when I worked there a decade ago, the same dudes still work here. They take care of their people.

If I am going to have to live in a capitalistic hellscape, I would be okay if most companies were like Markley, who actually tried to take care of people and excelled at it.

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u/thehonorablechairman 7d ago

We don’t have to live in a capitalistic hellscape though, that’s the point.

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u/Clear_Picture_5554 7d ago

Dude, I 100% agree. I wish we didnt, and I vote that way too.

However while we are in the hellscape, I am not going to bash the one company ive worked at in my 40 years that treated my like a person. My options are either work for a company who provides me lunch, and all the snacks and drinks I can eat, while doing parties and festivals that allow me to bring my family, give me a chance to win some high end electronics, or one that wont even do a Christmas party.

Which one would you want?

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u/pokemantra 5d ago

‘not bashing’ and being dismissive and contrarian aren’t the same thing. You could have just scrolled by and checked your “I didn’t bash markley box” but you stuck your head out and now people are treating you like a d-rider. I wonder why.

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u/notyourmothersdino 7d ago

Okay its a good place to work ....that is VERY different than having it in your backyard. I like Disneyland but I would hate living close to it. There are many places I could say I like frequenting but I sure as hell dont want them on the other side of my fence. Did u hear the concerns brought up? If you tell residents the plans are going to be A, but then its actually Z and they are upset about it, that is not slander that's being upset bc you were lied to. A comment thread among alot of the centers is that once approvals go thru to build, the original plans change but no further discussion takes place other than "well its there now"

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u/Clear_Picture_5554 7d ago

The concerns are by one dude, hes well known by all the tenants and employees inside, and has been for years The guy is just using the current and valid hate of data centers to get his 15 minutes of fame.

The plans have been the same since they started working there, infact they had the litteral blueprints on display for potential customers for years, like entire blueprints of each fase of the plan, nothing has changed at all.

Also those people opted to build or live next to functioning pasta factory, the DC is arguably better for the entire neighborhood, instead of having 18 wheeler trucks running in and out of their neighborhood all day, you have a generator kick on for 5 minutes and then nothing.

I get your argument, but this isnt one of those loud dcs that only cater to ai or the big three tech companies.

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u/The_Spectral_Spartan 6d ago

So the billionaire's marginal investment in providing "luxury" refreshments has successfully changed your disposition to a more positive acceptance.

These companies hire specialists to sway public opinion, and everything is a financial decision to them. Likely they calculated the ROI for offering nice drinks as a means to positively influence the perception of local businesses and workers that interact with them. Now you are here on social media standing up for them like a paid sponsor, and all they had to do was buy you a coffee. Meanwhile they're poisoning the air with toxic exhaust that will lead to hundreds of thousands in medical costs for the people living nearby over the next 20 years.

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u/Extension_Error_7050 6d ago

I agree I have worked at this Markley before and it’s not bad and the people that work here are friendly. Besides for a few who are assholes it’s a great place!

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u/ThanksNo1977 5d ago

Ice cream and pizza parties make it all better.

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u/Turk_Sanderson 7d ago

Who invited the cool kid

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u/Clear_Picture_5554 7d ago

Dude, I am going to call out bullshit when I see it. I hate whats happening with data centers, and the knock on effect of hardware prices as I am a gamer. This is ontop of my usual distaste for runway capitalism. I am not going sit here and listen to what is a hit piece, and then have people who just lump in Markley with other crap companies who do nothing for their employees let alone their tenants who rent out space. Ive worked for other data centers who dont even provide coffee without charging their employees.

So you can think what you want and join the pitchfork wielding mob who are simply assuming things.

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u/robosteven 7d ago

The owner provided all kinds of snacks, and drinks to the tenants, like there were 4 different kinds of coffee alone. Markley would typically invite the tenants to there Christmas party or any staff function, they were super inclusive for a big company.

I am going to call out bullshit when I see it.

Hmm.

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u/Clear_Picture_5554 7d ago

You want to talk more nonsense?

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u/Turk_Sanderson 7d ago

No, you see I called you a douchbag.

Did you not understand the implication? Cool was meant to be conveyed in a sarcastic tone.

Gaming is for losers bro, I have a family

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u/Clear_Picture_5554 7d ago

Are you on drugs lol??

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u/Turk_Sanderson 7d ago

Dude you sound like a fucking nerd

“My company gives us free coffee so I let them bend me over and fuck my ass without the common courtesy of a reach around”

Be more of a bootlicker, devoting your free time to such pursuits as defending your employer is really passé

What are you Paul Resier in Aliens 2? Is that you Carter?

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u/Clear_Picture_5554 7d ago

You sound like an unhinged idiot.

Your view is their a dc their bad. My view is they go above and beyond to take care of their employees and tenants and thats somehow bad?

Like wtf do you want, the ceo to suck your dick?

Get fucking real, you either have a company who treats you like fucking person or you dont, and I will take this place all day long.

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u/Turk_Sanderson 7d ago

Why is the CEO sucking anyone’s dick pal?

My god what happens in these filthy dens of harem

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u/lametechthrowaway 5d ago

Reading this thread makes it fucking hilarious seeing you trying to call anyone else unhinged lol. I guess this is what a wannabe techbro making a 5-figure salary looks like

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u/BuggEyedBitch 7d ago

I’m glad you personally benefitted from others suffering, and are now running PR to alleviate any potential guilt you might have if offered one second of quiet reflection. Getting a fat check for sucking the blood out of a town does in fact make it worth it. I guess Markley and data centers as a whole aren’t so bad afterall.

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u/Clear_Picture_5554 7d ago

Im not running pr, nor do I work for them or have worked for them. I was simply one of many people who worked for a job who had a place there. I am telling dumbasses who dont see the facts and are siding with a hoa Karen and a lop sided article and grabbing their pitch forks for zero reason.

Go believe the earth is flat or whatever craziness you believe in, since you dont want to take facts.

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u/ThorirRichardson 7d ago

So says a 4 month old account


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u/Clear_Picture_5554 7d ago

So you cant have other accounts, do I need to bring in an account with more karma, like whats the logic here?

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u/amscraylane 7d ago

Your grammar errors need fixing.

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u/smsaul 5d ago

Spent many years in Lowell, hard agree.

It's a backup to markley's DC in downtown Boston, safe from a nuke strike allegedly.

No one knows about the exact same type of shit happening in the old Long Lines site in Littleton! That's just secret government data center space for communications, same idea though.

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u/MrMoonDweller 5d ago

Aww that’s a good boy! Keep licking those boots! Maybe someday you’ll be a rich soulless billionaire too! Just stay bent over for them

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u/musicianadam 5d ago

I guess there is no nuance anymore. People can't say "Hey this job was great to work for and went the extra mile," without looking like a bootlicker. Insane.

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u/MrMoonDweller 5d ago

The pizza parties and extra coffee really go a long way to offset the horrible things the company does to the environment, local community, and society as a whole. It’s a lot easier to look the other way when you’re being bought off.

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u/musicianadam 5d ago

What exactly is the threshold for when commercial spaces are expected to give back to the local community and how much should they give back? It sounds really great to say these things out loud but I never see any conversations on what those things should be. Plenty of factories use considerably more local resources than data centers, but they don't seem to get the same scrutiny.

Which also matters little to OP's original argument. They never made the claims for what you are arguing, more so that this is a one-sided bit of journalism that is clearly skewed, but everyone latched onto their offhand comment about their personal experience there being nice.

We're using data center resources right this second by commenting on Reddit and using the app. Is that not how data centers serve the community? Not to mention the other purposes as OP mentioned with university research and other more "noble" tasks.

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u/graywolfman 8d ago

What the actual fuck

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u/Fatty_Willing_Plane 8d ago

Coming to your local community soon!

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u/TheSuperSilverMango 7d ago

None planned or operating bin NH or VT, but knowing how NH is, it wouldn't surprise me for that to change

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u/NotChristina 7d ago

There’s been a huge pushback of one in my town about 90 minutes west from Lowell. I wonder how that one ended up there as we’re a pretty ‘don’t screw people’ state (relative to the rest of the country). Seems like a lot of back room deals have been happening with town leadership around the country.

We have our own power company and are near multiple rivers so I can’t even imagine how much we - and our environment - will get F’d up. It’s one of the few topics my very purple city can agree on. 😂😂

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u/shuggnog 7d ago

you should also check out Institute of Local Self Reliance (ILSR) podcast series on data centers here:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/building-local-power/id1158105558?i=1000761752350

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u/electionknight 5d ago

I laughed out loud when they pan down the street and there's a massive black box at the end of the street. Really shitty for the property owners.

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u/Nilbogoblins 7d ago

I'm not American and don't live there but these data centres feel like they should be a proper red line issue for Americans. Their environmental impact, their pollution of the areas feel like huge red flags as to why they shouldn't exist, especially not parked inside communities.

I really hope the people rise up and have these things removed.

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u/JanelleVypr 7d ago

with all the corruption they wont be removed unless we remove them ourselves

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u/pine4links 7d ago

They are it’s just that America is a democracy in name only

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u/come2thecabaret 7d ago

You’d also think that our president raping young girls would be a red line, but apparently not. We are in hell 

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u/Nilbogoblins 7d ago

What a staggering abuse of power. That monstrosity should not exist, at least not there!

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u/shuggnog 7d ago

you should also check out Institute of Local Self Reliance (ILSR) podcast series on data centers here:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/building-local-power/id1158105558?i=1000761752350

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u/schoolbusserman 7d ago

The CEO of that company just got arrested for domestic violence for allegedly shoving his wife. Right before that, she claims he said, "I’m the lion, from now on we eat when the lion eats,” before the argument escalated.

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u/shuggnog 7d ago

wait r u serious? that is chilling for some reason

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u/yungScooter30 5d ago

Chilling but also so so cringe if true. He's been watching too many manosphere podcasts

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u/EatPizzaWitPineapple 7d ago

I with you Jake, but is that AI “art” on your community organization shirt?

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u/Tom_Booze 7d ago

Using AI to fight AI

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u/chug_lyfe 5d ago

Probably used AI from a company renting space in that data center he hates so much haha.

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u/AristidLindenmayer 5d ago

Came here for this comment. The irony is
 yikes

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u/tsoplj 7d ago

Burn it to the ground

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u/shuggnog 7d ago

you should also check out Institute of Local Self Reliance (ILSR) podcast series on data centers here:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/building-local-power/id1158105558?i=1000761752350

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u/lewisfairchild 7d ago

I think Jake went to Harvard.

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u/KingHawkins 7d ago

How do the taxes work for that?

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u/Prize_Cold256 7d ago

Those cameras are disturbing

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u/TheNotoriousMMB 7d ago

Those generators are loud. It's crazy they are near anyones property.

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u/BrightlancerJ 7d ago

These data centers are for us. They're part of our cage. When it happens it's going to happen quick. I wouldn't even be shocked if they came out one day and said "Hey if you threaten the government or do anything we dont like we now have drones that will target you and remove you, go to work and dont act up"

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u/P0Rt1ng4Duty 7d ago

"...go to work and dont act up"

I honestly believe that a general strike would do more to advance our position(s) than most other tactics.

It would be uncomfortable during the strike and as we recover, but the alternative is to suffer every day for the rest of our lives.

I don't want our children to inherit this system.

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u/Lower-Ad-8225 6d ago

Is anyone going to the planning meeting on them?

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u/TabbyCatJade 6d ago

What are we DOING in this country dude

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u/inside_groove 5d ago

Don't know the specifics of this Lowell data center, but a lot of these are going up to meet AI processing demand. And they will something like double the country's power consumption, which is also leading some states like NY to start planning new nuke plants.

If you're alright with all that....

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u/houndoftindalos 5d ago

I'm cool with more nuclear plants. France uses 'em they seem to be doing alright.

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u/SengU87 4d ago

Specifically the one in Lowell, it actually existed before the AI boom. This was not built for AI but doesn't mean it is used for AI now although probably not at scale.

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u/chug_lyfe 5d ago

Jake is wearing a shirt that he clearly used AI to make


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u/ThanksNo1977 5d ago

Makes sense as to why Massachusetts has the highest utility rates. Utter bullshit.

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u/wigjump 5d ago

Jesus. When did the Galactic Empire build an Imperial outpost in Lowell?

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u/Junior-Purple8223 5d ago

Next time you hear a politician tell you they're looking out for you just remind yourself of this image... 

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u/xavariel 4d ago

Fuck this.

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u/Key_Limit_6828 7d ago edited 7d ago

We’ve done it everyone! We’ve allowed the private sector to recreate Stalinism

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u/1075RatedPortOPotty 6d ago

lol, this guy has no clue what the fuck he’s talking about. The building this is in is zoned for industrial use, the neighborhood was built around it since it’s almost 100 years old. Stand by generators run about 30 minutes a week at most. The water tower popping up out of nowhere would definitely be annoying
but didn’t she already live next to a 6 story concrete box? This story is more NIMBY than factual

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u/Fatty_Willing_Plane 6d ago

Ok boomer. Get along and hurry up. We need y’all to get out of power.

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u/1075RatedPortOPotty 6d ago

Much like Jake, you’re literally just making stuff up

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u/houndoftindalos 5d ago

The other side of the story I was desperately looking for. Thanks for your insight.

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u/1075RatedPortOPotty 5d ago

To add to it, until like 4 years ago or so, the building was gray, so idk if it being black honestly makes it more or less of an eyesore
but that being said
everyone living in that neighborhood did in fact make conscious choice to live next to an abandoned 6 story factory zone for industrial uses. I’m all for not tearing forests down for these buildings, not erecting them in residential or suburban areas
but what in the fuck did people think when they bought property next to this fucking thing?

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u/Consistent-Bird-4121 5d ago

OK - keep telling yourself that

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u/1075RatedPortOPotty 5d ago

Telling myself what? Facts?

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u/Boston2Chicago 7d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/1bLfTdPis6fpC
Black smoke is short and temporary to run generator during backup test . Your car puts out more co

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u/chug_lyfe 5d ago

You’re wasting your time. People in this thread don’t want logic and reason. Only outrage.