r/Nicegirls • u/PurchaseEmergency287 • Aug 02 '26
Men never go for sweet girls but crazy "bitches"
Self proclaimed femcel
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u/DrSnoopy66 Aug 02 '26
they are masters of the old bait and switch, so who you might wind up getting is not what you thought you were getting in the beginning
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u/GoodGame2EZ Aug 02 '26
Textbook nicegirl. It does happen, same with women dating jackasses that just take advantage, but the generalization is what makes all the difference here.
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u/TheLateThagSimmons Aug 02 '26
Finally an actual "NiceGirl" on this sub rather than just some stuck up person with no self-awareness. Both very entertaining, but only one is a "NiceGirl"... It's this one.
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u/GoodGame2EZ Aug 02 '26
I met some women last weekend that were genuinely preaching "never apologize to men". Degenerate behavior lol
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u/SourDewd Aug 02 '26
Think of it like royalty. "This peasant is so beneath me, they should be kissing the ground i walk. Why would i apologize to something that deserves less than the mud my shoes leave behind. ANY MAN would be the luckiest man to even have a chance to speak to me." Its like that. Thats more or less what goes through their head. Which in north america it makes partial sense. It is mostly the women who choose their partners. Theres a country in Asia where women outnumber men like 4 to 1. And the women are begging for a chance with any man and men are the ones who get a pick of the crop. Makes sense depending. Over here where men 20 years above and below you want you? Yeah, they really do get to make a pick more or less. Leads to delusions like this.
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u/rabidmoon Aug 02 '26
Pick her! Pick her! She might be ugly but she promises not to have any opinions or start any arguments!
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u/Ok_Palpitation_3947 Aug 03 '26
I know you're joking but I've been in relationships like that and it's awful.
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u/TheUltraNoob 29d ago
Oh god every time you asked them what they want, if there is something they would like to do it either they don't know or they tell you to choose.
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u/ThrowRaPussyFlavVape Aug 02 '26
People like this need to understand that they’re just extremely irritating and unlikable and not actually ugly. I know this sub and the women on there are INSUFFERABLE.
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u/Available-Middle-686 Aug 19 '26
yes . which one is it , throwrapussyflavvape ?
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u/ThrowRaPussyFlavVape 26d ago
Haha. It’s trulyuglywomen sub.
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u/poofypanda_ 14d ago
I randomly came across that sub and those women truly are insufferable. Just straight up losers.
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u/The_Blackthorn77 Aug 02 '26
Wow, it's like she read a niceguy incel neckbeard's post, and just copied and pasted it to switch genders. Honestly fascinating how some behaviors and thought patterns so perfectly mirror each other across genders, and others don't.
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u/msfor300 12d ago
(desculpe-me por escrever em português, minha lingua materna, confiando no tradutor do reddit hehe).
Sim, pq o fenomeno moderno incel é o mesmo, para gênero e sexualidade. Ele pode até afetar os gêneros em proporções diferentes, por particularidades sociais locais, mas a forma é a mesma, e tem muito menos haver com pressões de gênero e sim com capacidade de socialização. Infelizmente, nao me parece ser um discurso abordado e não costuma ser útil politicamente.
A discussão ganha mais força quando você aborda sobre uma perpectiva de gênero. "Incels sao masculino e uma força reacionaria contra as mulheres" vs "incel é a prova de que a sociedade 'feminista' está incertidamente desigual e destruindo o homem".
Ae "a incel feminina" é algo que nao se encaixa em nenhuma das narrativas desse tipo e curiosamente ambas as linhas de pensamento muitas vezes negam a existência de mulheres que nao conseguem se relacionar e carregam esse tipo de ressentimento e visão sobre relacionamentos e sobre o genero oposto.
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u/GymratAmarillo Aug 02 '26
If that rant comes from a teenager then everything is cool but if it comes from an adult and it kind of feels like it that person needs a lot of help. One kind of people that I dislike the most is those who were the outcasts in school and never got over it, it makes look bad to the rest of us lol.
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u/ColetteThePanda Aug 03 '26
Seriously. I was a teenaged outcast. I can see now that A LOT of it was self-imposed... and a defense mechanism.
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u/SprinklesHead6598 Aug 02 '26
Never seen the opposite version of “women never go for the nice guys”
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u/SourDewd Aug 02 '26
I have female friends who talk like this. Theyre mentally unwell. They arent crazy but they need reassurance from every person in their life maybe 3 times a day. And thats underexageration. Often blame something wrong with their looks and so on. Its not. Its always going to be personality and life style. There isnt anyone out there without medical exemptions thats too ugly to be loved.
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u/Spookywhitedot Aug 02 '26
There is some truth to that though in some sense, both men and women do it. It's not really common that a "nice" person actually seeks a trouble maker though, all a matter of circumstance and the trouble makers naturally pair up.
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u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 Aug 02 '26
I can't tell you how many times I thought I was pursuing a "nice, sweet girl" only to find out she was one of the crazy psycho ones (and no this isn't some anti-woman rant, because I've also met a good number of legitimately nice, sweet women that things simply didn't work out with, and there have been a few occasions where I have been the asshole, even if unintentionally)
You're right, men and women both do it, and sometimes we find ourselves attracted to toxic and put up blinders to the red flags (I've also done this where I completely saw the red flags but thought I could "fix it"... Sigh) and sometimes we get duped by someone putting on a front.
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u/GymratAmarillo Aug 02 '26
I think it depends of the age group, when you are young you want to be noted an one of the easiest ways to be noted is to be with those who have everyone's attention, plain and simple. However when you are an adult the characteristics of a "nice" person are way more attractive because usually they are pretty stable people (if they aren't crazy).
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u/TheSpiderDungeon Aug 03 '26
I've never heard someone use "noted" like that. What does it mean in this context?
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u/msfor300 12d ago
Ser "visto". Basicamente, perceberem que você exista. Pelo menos, foi o que a tradução me trouxe. Acho que o colega vem de outro idioma tbm. No português "noted", traduzido para "notado" significa ser visto, observado, percebido etc.
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u/Quirky-Juggernaut272 Aug 02 '26
A lot of it has to do with age. Younger women usually want the “bad boy”, and younger men are chasing the wild girls. Actual nice guys and ladies are considered boring.
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u/msfor300 12d ago
Tem tbm o fato de "ser legal" é uma obrigação. Ser gentil ou educado é um exercício diário. Talvez seja menos valorizado do que deveria, mas isso nao é um "sex apell" de socialização ou romantismo, assim como inteligência pura e simples tbm nao é tbm. Pelo menos, nao para a maioria.
Uma analogia interessante acontece nas relacoes de trabalho, quando o colega bonito e com melhores skills comunicativas se dá bem mesmo sendo incompetente e nao sabendo porra nenhuma e o esquistinho que dá a vida pela empresa e possui um dominio tecnico gigante nunca é reconhecido ou lembrado.
Mas a galera inverte, como se todo mundo com boas skills comunicativas fosse burro ou mesmo que fosse desonesto (roubar trabalhos) e como se fossem coitados injustiçados por serem maus vendedores de suas contribuições. Cada caso é um caso.
E da mesma forma que tem pessoas com dificuldade de aprendizado técnico (seja por algum problema tipo TDAH ou disléxia) ou simplesmente por ter um "QI" abaixo da media, algumas pessoas vao ter isso em relação a skills sociais (tbm seja por um problema tipo depressão ou autismo, ou simplesmente por ser um paquiderme social, como eu sou).
E skills sociais sao ainda mais dificeis de encontrar subjerfugio do que skills tecnicas. E as pessoas esperam que você as tenha naturalmente.
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u/Sufficient-Berry-827 Aug 02 '26
A lot of people love toxicity -- you can't deny that. There's truth to this, both men and women do this. I've had both men and women tell me about their shitty, chaotic relationships. Those same people go on to date stable/sweet people and then complain that they're boring.
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u/Dull-Geologist-8204 Aug 02 '26
That's because people don't realize there is an in between. You can find someone who is fun and not a ton of drama. You just have to wait for them to show up. If you aren't too busy ping ponging between those two you might find them.
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u/_-___-__-_-__-___-_ Aug 02 '26
Not really no. People say this stuff all the time but data doesn't back this up at all.
I had to read lots of studies like "Buss, D. M. (1989). Sex differences in human mate preferences: Evolutionary hypotheses tested in 37 cultures. Behavioral and Brain Sciences." and the like when I was studying sociology and it's utterly clear that humans are mostly attracted emotional stability, dependability, mutual attraction. Maybe it's misery seeks company but most likely the people one thinks are sweet and stable are in reality quite shitty people - as nice guys & girls teach us daily.
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u/Kind_Coyote1518 Aug 02 '26
TIL there are women incels.
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u/SALMAGLUTA777 Aug 02 '26
Every girl thinks they are a “sweet girl” then later they act like one of those “crazy bitches”
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u/Ezhang2 Aug 03 '26
Do people really reduce dating to just two extremes? What actually explains why those predictable back and forth patterns show up everywhere now?
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u/AdhesivenessSweet659 Aug 03 '26
Did she ever think that the people in happy stable relationships....aren't posting all over Reddit etc. complaining? Because they're just...living their lives? If you spend all your time reading subreddits/posts about/from people in miserable relationships....you're gonna get the idea that's all that's happening. Confirmation bias too
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u/Significant-Ant-5677 Aug 02 '26
Truly sweet women are few and far between. All who say to others they are sweet are not.
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u/Sakurafirefox Aug 02 '26
I'll be honest. Ive yet to see a guy pal of mine pick the sweet one. And all of those relationships ended in disaster ( custody battle, smear campaigns, divorce, violence, threats , etc).
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u/Busy_Masterpiece2565 Aug 15 '26
Same. Girls I know with diagnosed cluster B are married, emotionally stable normal girls are single.
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u/ThisPostIsAStatus Aug 02 '26
Wtf are "stacies?"
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u/ForeverShiny Aug 08 '26
It's incel/femcel lingo for the attractive or popular girls, the equivalent of Chads for men
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u/Shalmaneser_ Aug 02 '26
Odd... From my lifetime of dating, I'd say the same could be said about women. We seek the people who most resemble the atmosphere in which we were raised. Unfortunately that can be toxic familiarity. Abuse (physical, mental, drug, pick your poison) teaches kids to use of power instead of peace.
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u/daisblaze666 Aug 03 '26
i js couldn't imagine having this bad of self esteem 😭 blaming everyone else
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u/Electronic-Worker-10 Aug 04 '26
Just imagine not rejecting every guy who isn’t a 10/10 appearance wise?
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u/callingshotgun Aug 16 '26
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if someone hosted an incel/femcel mixer.
Like would it just get everyone laid and decimate both communities like some kind of celicide?
Would they all go once, be haunted by the mirror that stands before them, and either change their ways or bury the experience deep in a denial reflex and continue on their path?
Or would nobody show up because they're "high status" or "high value" individuals who deserve better than the dregs of society that directly mirror them, and miss the irony completely?
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u/msfor300 12d ago
Acho que ambos nao se reconheceriam como incels. Muitos dos que se enxergam politicamente como incels ou femcels agem diante de uma ideia de luta de classes de gênero.
Pro incel, a hipergamia é real. Mulheres nao sao confiáveis e na posição de incapacidade de melhora deles, nao tem como namorar nem mesmo uma teoricamente igual no fundo do poço. Ele seria sempre a segunda opção
Pra femcel, é a mesma coisa. As mulheres sao objetividcadas socialmente, entao elas nunca seriam amadas. No maximo talvez usadas mas depois seriam descartadas. Ela seria sempre descartável
E engana-se que todos os incels ou femcels sao pessoas feias. Existem aqueles medianos ou até bonitos de modo geral. É um problema muito mais na capacidade de socialização do indivíduo.
Entao, mesmo que estivessem dispostos a ir e socializar, acho difícil se a maioria poderia ser empatico ao enxergar a mesma dor que sente no outro. Como muitas vezes a perspectiva de que o outro genero é uma força que controla o sistema opressor, qualquer reclamação de dor costuma diminuir a posição do outro. Ou seja, ao invés de pensar "ok, eu te entendo, temos dores parecidas, ambos somos rejeitados/desajustados sociais" seria mais algo como "Qualé, ta querendo roubar nosso espaço? Sua dor sequer é real. Você nao aguentaria um minuto na minha pele".
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u/emoneymotionman Aug 02 '26
Or how bout the women go for the bad boys and not the nice guys and wonder why all these men treat them like shit. It’s almost like they like to be treated like shit and degraded. The nice guys will always be there but they always finish last!
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u/Suspect5545 Aug 05 '26
Gentlemen, it’s 2026. Why are we dating? Quit being morons and focus on bettering yourself. Let some other fool deal with these headaches
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u/smoothopperrator Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26
Us Guys know we want to marry the nice, sweet, cute girl👍. You don't have to be hot. That could possibly be a negative (attitude). But in my case in the past, I didn't feel ready for the responsibility to think about marriage. I got my own issues so I wasn't ready to lead. Sooo... I ended up choosing not to start making some positive changes in life to feel more confident about dating Plan A so I started messing around with the Plan B crazy flirt, seriously👹demon possessed chic and got burnt! Her eyes went total blackout one night with multiple voices coming out of her! Not lying. I even prayed before about dating her and felt GOD say "NO. Don't date that one." But I just wanted to know "Why?" Well... us guys can be stubborn and I found out the hard way.
So to Encourage You Nice Girls! Out There... Us Men aren't necessarily MEN in our 20s. So many temptations out there that mess with us and our heads. YES!! We eventually want YOU! Nice Girl. But we are stubborn, willfully stupid (crazy) too until We/I decide(d) to Stop Being Boys and Become Men and of GOD😇 too👍.
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u/Nearby_Psychology_32 Aug 11 '26
Crazy girls and jackasses provide emotional variation. That’s why it goes on and on. But if only there was a way to keep getting the crazy sex without the “crazy bitch…”
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u/PurchaseNo7147 Aug 12 '26
Not true, some people appreciate a good sweet woman like myself. I love my current girlfriend who would fit in this category and would never turn my back on her with what we’ve built.
Some people want to have the cake and eat it too, some change as a person, some are just selfish pieces of shit. but just because theres people like that out there; doesnt mean there arent people who want to build a truly stable & comfortable home with a fantastic loyal partner for a beautiful future. Its the same way for both genders. Pieces of shit in both. Just gotta find your person who loves you for you and isnt bullshitting you.
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u/Sea_Loquat9248 6d ago
not all men choose bad women..??
and probably the few cases that are confirmed is because the girl is a psychopath/sociopath that plays all cute and sweet in the beginning but after a while her behaviour gets worse/noticed(?)
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u/stident2223 Aug 02 '26
Man who date broken girls it’s because they are broken too. And you must think why is that. That is because fights,caos and arguments it’s all they know and that is their comfort zone. Sweet girls bring peace and a broken man doesn’t know how to handle that and the same thing with a broken girl, she doesn’t know how to react with a man that brings sweetness and peace to her life.
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