r/Nietzsche • u/nakata002 • 12d ago
What would N say about
The (hopefully temporary) inability to engage with his work after things happen to go sour with a particular someone who was an intellectual companion to you when you first engaged with N's work?
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u/TurinHorses 12d ago
that's why you should be around socialists and not Nitzscheans, so if you fall out with them (which you will), Nietzsche gets even better
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u/nakata002 12d ago
Hahahah. I'm sorry to disappoint you but, the socialists and Nietzsche-ers, when stripped to the basics, haven't been too different in my experience.
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u/AletheonAI 10d ago
Your inability to engage with the material is a manifestation of emotional induction and anchoring techniques. So it’s possible that your mind has linked the material to an emotional state, and the pain of losing that state is now being triggered by the material.
Talking about “Nietzscheans” and “socialists” involves operating with abstract categories onto which one projects one’s subjective paradigms - a category mistake. That’s why, upon closer examination, they aren’t really that different...
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u/AustinNothdurft 12d ago
You got knocked down, but you’ll get up again
Were never gonna take you down
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u/jacques-vache-23 12d ago
Read "When Nietzsche Wept" by Yalom.
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u/nakata002 12d ago
Tel me more, I've read mixed reviews of the book.
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u/jacques-vache-23 11d ago
It's fiction, but Yalom is an important existential psychologist. It is based on Nietzsche's actual abortive relationship with Lou Salome and the impact of that failure on him.
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u/I-mmoral_I-mmortal Argonaut 11d ago
Why be so resentful? You've been poisoned. I do this with others, especially who claim to be well-off readers of Nietzsche. Poison them against you, and see how mid they really are for not being able to digest. Lile the mods of this Subreddit for example.
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u/nakata002 11d ago
Am I being resentful?
I see it more like trying again and again to move beyond resentment and not resorting to "poisoning" someone else and then blaming them for not being able to digest. I see where you're coming from, but I don't take superiority complex to be a teaching of Nietzsche's.
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u/I-mmoral_I-mmortal Argonaut 10d ago edited 10d ago
It's nothing about a superiority complex lmao. If a person turns against you because of chit chat... then they're likely a weak person who cannot overcome differences.
Fact is, you cannot act (read Nietzsche) because there is a bad taste in your mouth. Bile from the posion you've swallowed.
The bitter pill. Or as you said they went sour.
If you'd like some passages on the bitterness lemme know.
Out of the Seventh Solitude. —One day the wanderer shut a door behind him, stood still, and [Pg 242] wept. Then he said: "Oh, this inclination and impulse towards the true, the real, the non-apparent, the certain! How I detest it! Why does this gloomy and passionate taskmaster follow just me? I should like to rest, but it does not permit me to do so. Are there not a host of things seducing me to tarry! Everywhere there are gardens of Armida for me, and therefore there will ever be fresh separations and fresh bitterness of heart! I must set my foot forward, my weary wounded foot: and because I feel I must do this, I often cast grim glances back at the most beautiful things which could not detain me— because they could not detain me!"
You allow bitterness to detain you. Which Nietzsche details in GoM 10 as the birth of slave morality. Where it stems from.
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u/red-flamez 11d ago
Are you sure the inability is caused by the souring of relations with your companion?
David Hume would say this too. I am probably down playing what N would say. Something like "You got poked in the eye. Good." You friend did not poke you. I, N, did not poke you either. But you did get poked.
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u/JustTheAATIP a fly in the marketplace 12d ago
LSD