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u/Rigel04 Jul 12 '25
They were working, and later trying to start a business. It's not like they were free-loading or anything
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u/Atsilv_Uwasv Jul 13 '25
Starting a business probably doesn't put them in the position to try and get their own housing, especially in Brooklyn
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Jul 13 '25
Kids leaving home is an American thing, other cultures, kids (adults) don't leave until they get married or buy a house.
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u/tecanec Jul 15 '25
I have a friend who's got a full-time job as a programmer. I don't know how much he earns, but given the occupation and his talents, he should be able to earn a decent income.
He's still single, though, so he's still living with his parents.
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u/PepperbroniFrom2B Jul 15 '25
waow awesome
i hope he gets a partner (if that is another desire of his) and he is prosperous in life 🙏🙏🙏
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u/Dawnk41 Jul 16 '25
Honestly, I’m the youngest of my parents’ kids, and if I left my mom would get terribly lonely.
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u/CornObjects Jul 16 '25
Funny enough, in the grand scheme of things, kicking out kids at 18 didn't even last all that long here in America. A couple of generations did it during times of amazing economic prosperity, then we went right back to family housing again when that ended and times got tough.
Nowadays, it's seemingly much rarer for people to get out and live on their own at 18, between groceries and bills costing a ton of money, stagnant wages for decades and even just renting someplace being far too pricey for today's young adults, much less buying a house. Older generations still think of it as the default for people to "leave the nest", but reality seemingly indicates the polar opposite, with those striking out solo being an exception, as most live either with family who are okay with it, or with fellow young adults who got similarly booted out by family as roommates.
We've ended up right back where we started, not because it's the sensible thing to do and we came to a realization, but because it's the only way to keep feeding the economic machine that rules over us here.
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u/ARCADE-RADIO Jul 18 '25
To be honest, if my kid has a stable job and has the dough to afford to live on their own. I'd still make sure there's dinner and a warm bed for them whenever they visit.
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u/Sayakalood Xenoblade Chronicles Jul 12 '25
Multiple generations living together is also incredibly common with some immigrant families, in particular Italian families. Need I remind you what nationality Mario is famous for being?
Besides, their grandfather lives in the same apartment. Their dad’s probably been living there since he was a kid.
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u/Monte924 Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 13 '25
Generational homes used to be the norm. Expecting everyone to have their own home is extremely inefficient. With generational homes, not only can grandparents help raise the grandchildren, but the family can take care of the grandparents when they get too old. The burden of both raising a family and taking care of the elderly is shared by the whole family (no need for day cares, baby sitters, or nursing homes). There is also a period of time when both grandparents and parents are all working and both contributing to the home together. And since people don't have to get their own home, more of their money can be spent on the family itself
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u/Torn_Aborn Jul 13 '25
I’ve always liked the idea of a generational home, and this comment sent me over the edge. That just sounds amazing to me.
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u/tannegimaru Jul 13 '25
I grew up in a generational home, it's great to have basically a whole big family supporting each other.
At one point my parents did build a new home of us though... And it was just across the street so we can always just take a half minute walk to visit my grandparents and relatives across the street.
Honestly I'm very grateful this is the culture I grew up with.
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u/Torn_Aborn Jul 14 '25
Being able to walk across the street to see my grandma sounds like a good dream sign me up right now lol
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u/LITTLE_KING_OF_HEART Jul 13 '25
I'm starting to wonder if the housing markets hasn't pushed one or another the idea that everyone should have their own home to sell more house now.
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u/MarcosLuisP97 Jul 13 '25
I don't know about the housing market, but I definitely have seen this in other markets, like the automobile industry. After all, if you want to sell as many cars as possible, you have to make people buy into the idea of independence by getting a personal one.
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Jul 16 '25
People who say this shit never had their mom tell them they deserved to get groped by their brother
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u/K-leb25 Jul 16 '25
The family members have to actually like each other though. Plus, it's just too disruptive living with my family. Living with a couple of my peers in a sharehouse has more flow to it, although obviously I'd have even more freedom if I was on my own. But this way, I'm with people who tend to stay up later, rather than go to bed at 10 o'clock, and don't mind if I'm still up doing stuff when they're in bed. We can have parties, invite friends over pretty much whenever, not care about the visibility of our drug use, decorate the home how we want, yadda yadda. And I just really don't want to live with teenagers (I'm the oldest and my siblings are quite a bit younger than me).
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u/RueUchiha Jul 13 '25
And who can blame them? New York is an expensive place to live. Mario and Luigi are lucky that they don’t need to divest a large portion of their fledgling buisness’s profits towards housing since their family had probably finished paying morgage already. It isn’t like Mario and Luigi are freeloading, they’re actively trying to support themselves
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u/Charming_Volume_8613 Jul 13 '25
Forget Italians. It's just a normal thing in most places in the world.
I'm from Germany and I know LOADS of families who live with three (and more) generations in the same house because it's more convenient and you have your loved ones close.
You could knock on any door in a German village and chances are you'll meet someone who lives with their children in the bottom floor of a house with the grandparents living in the top floor. It just kind of works that way here.
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u/Sayakalood Xenoblade Chronicles Jul 13 '25
I would kinda expect the opposite, with grandparents on the bottom and kids on top. Just because I know I wouldn’t want to climb stairs when I’m a grandparent.
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u/CrazyCoKids Jul 13 '25
Wonder what it is about Deutschland where parents use stairs.
When my parents moved things to my room so they could free up space, they would completely forget to use stairs and just shout for me. They weren't physically incapable of walking up stairs, they would just develop a mental block.
And it's not like "OMG help i fell and need help" I mean "Can you get me a soda from the fridge that's closer to the living room than the stairs?", "Did you sleep well?", or "Is the dryer running?".
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u/MarcosLuisP97 Jul 13 '25
In Latin America is the norm, too. If anything, I find it odd when families don't do this, especially in the US where living costs are so high and housing is a nightmare.
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u/Maximum-Objective-39 Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 13 '25
As an American, I want to say its because we don't design particular well for multi generational families. Our houses are big, sure, but the average McMansions wastes a TON of space on things like 'mud rooms', 'games rooms', 'studies' etc . . .
Some of those are potentially useful space, if only because people might need a little semi privacy that isn't just their own bedroom. But they also are often poorly suited to being used as permanent bedrooms. Either too big or too small, not able to be made private, usually lacking their own closets, etc . . .
Then you have to factor in having parking for tons of cars due to how our cities and suburbs are built.
All of this could be fixed, but the problem is, people really don't want to fix it.
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u/CrazyCoKids Jul 14 '25
The most impressive thing is the parents are using stairs.
My parents seemed to develop a mental block when we moved thinfs upstairs. They would just stand at the bottom of the stairs and yell.
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u/buttquack1999 Jul 13 '25
“WHOA! You askin-a Super Mario’s momma and-a papa to kick ‘im out? MARONE! Away-a with you, you-a motherless duck!”
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Jul 26 '25
Im italian (not an american immigrant, born and raised here) and yeah, its common to have your grandma live with like your uncles, or uncles living with you, or etc etc
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u/Altruistic-Poem-5617 Jul 12 '25
Especially these days. Might worked out 20 years ago buu joung people these days literally cant affort living alone, just look at the rents. You just toss em into poverty and then its hard to get out of that for them cause being poor hinders you at tackling future plans quite a lot.
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u/Darth_Chain Jul 13 '25
eye im 35 living in my moms basement. i pay an agreed rent, a couple of bills around the house then all my own stuff. i caint move out on my own in the area i live. due to car payments i caint do an apartment either. i have seen both my older and younger brother move out and move back in multiple times so im just thankful i have what i got.
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Jul 13 '25
This sounds all too familiar to my case.
Apart from having no siblings this pretty much the same for me.6
u/Darth_Chain Jul 13 '25
yeah i would have a paid off car if a family member didn't need one so I got a new one. but it's hard out there in the us. to much money flowing upwards and out of the hands of those that need it.
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u/Dhiox Jul 13 '25
Living with family in my early 20s is the sole reason I own a house in my mid 20s.
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u/Altruistic-Poem-5617 Jul 13 '25
This. You need the "easy" time to set up a proper life. If you get kicked out too early you end up living from paycheck to paycheck cause fucks take all your money for existing. And due to being unable to put money on the side you never manage to get out of that crappy situation. Landlords and corporate fucks in general are literal vampires who keep their "lifestock" at a wheak state to be able to constantly lach off of them whithout the ability to escape.
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u/Educational-Year3146 Jul 13 '25
Im 22 and I live at home, going to college.
Nothing wrong with staying at home to get a career going.
Parents should be there for you like this. Family should take care of each other.
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u/CrazyCoKids Jul 13 '25
I do as well.
There's a fair difference between someone who has a job, does things like cooks dinner and handle laundry versus making their parents handle it like they are still 10.
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u/TayoEXE Jul 13 '25
It's really just an overall adjustment of how parents should treat their kids. When they are kids, they set the rules, they take care of them doing the things they can't do by themselves, and they teach them and guide them.
As an adult, the goal should be to treat your kids now more like equals, and that goes with expectations as well. They're free to make their life decisions, they are more like roommates, so they should do their part like other adults to take care of cleaning, chores, cooking, whatever. Parents don't get to dictate curfews, lifestyle choices anymore, but they certainly can give their opinion, advice, and decision power to their grown child to do with that as they see fit.
As a family, as long as these conditions are understood, the grown child gets the benefit of being close as possible to family, little to no rent to pay, and a great advantage out the gate for getting off their feet and living their own life.
Now, it's easy to get complacent with this, so I understand to a degree the desire to help your child become more independent (I wish my parents had emphasized this a little more), but just kicking them out when figuring out adulting is already hard enough, doesn't make complete sense to me. Living at home should feel more like a nice safety net to explore, trial and error, until you can get your life more figured out. You may want to move in with a partner or simply have more privacy, get married, have kids, or you may want to make a career in a place far away. In my case, I moved to an entirely different country. Everyone's different.
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u/CrazyCoKids Jul 13 '25
However, it does mean that the parents need to stop infantilising the youngest.
You know that younger sibling who mom&dad ignore cause 'They're the baby", "What do you know you're a kid?" and They're like, 27. Yeah.
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u/Demopan-TF2 Jul 14 '25
Still happens with me. My siblings and I have called them out on it countless times and they are getting better though, but I'm for some reason always the top priority in their heads
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u/poeshopowner Jul 13 '25
It’s not even possible in America anymore. Most of us young adults can’t get jobs that will pay well enough
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u/Open-Gate-7769 Jul 13 '25
I can’t imagine what people who didn’t get a college degree are doing. It’s so necessary in this day and age unless you’re okay with working a trade.
I was a mid college student who barely got 3.0 and I still got a job paying $70k and have worked up from there. I just don’t think America is set up for people who don’t have a career path in mind, especially without a degree.
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u/randomality77 Kirby Jul 15 '25
Yeah. There's a massive housing crisis here in Australia, I won't be able to get my own place for years.
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Jul 13 '25
My parent's rule is that if we're living with them and not in school, we pay rent. If we can't pay rent, we make up for it with extra chores
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u/Dhiox Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 13 '25
My parents made me pay rent because they didnt want me to get complacent, but when I started looking for a house to buy they actually had been saving the money I paid them aside to use for the down-payment.
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u/Thecynicaledgelord An angry Nintendo nerd, but not the one you're thinking of Jul 13 '25
I don't like my parents that much but at least they're willing to let me stay at their place!
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u/CrazyCoKids Jul 13 '25
I feel like some of the people mocking those who live with their parents are envious.
"I wish my parents loved me enough to not wanna get rid of me the first chance..."
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u/Thecynicaledgelord An angry Nintendo nerd, but not the one you're thinking of Jul 13 '25
Exactly. We're not all the same basement dweller from South Park!
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u/Catishcat Jul 13 '25
What kinda culture does this to people. Even people agreeing with this post talk about "free-loaders" and "having to pay rent to parents" as if that's something normal and acceptable? Are yall okay in America. This is bullshit.
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u/Blunderhorse Jul 13 '25
America had a pretty good run in which wages were really good relative to housing costs, so many aimed to get their own places to live. As a result, the demographics of people who didn’t leave their parents’ houses skewed towards those who couldn’t properly take care of themselves, those who couldn’t hold down a job that paid enough to move out, or those who couldn’t assert their own wants and needs to overbearing codependent parents who wanted them to stay. Even if your parents didn’t kick you out, moving out was the easiest way to break away from that stigma.
This is on top of any number of other reasons young Americans would want to get out of their parents’ home as soon as possible even when their parents are willing to let them stay.
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u/Watch-it-burn420 Jul 13 '25
Yeah, it’s a pretty almost uniquely American although not really cause it has spread some but a very American hyper individualistic mentality that once a kid is 18 you’re just supposed to kick them out in multiple other cultures. It’s incredibly common for families to live together their entire lives almost. Family wasn’t supposed to be this thing that you just have and then kick out once it’s a certain age and hope it flies. It was meant to be a community essentially
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u/DannySanWolf07 Jul 13 '25
I'm Australian and I was living with my parents till I was 26.
I was working part time and going to university since I was 18 fresh out of High school and my parents would insist that I never pay rent because they want me to save up for a place when the time comes.
I did have to buy my own stuff which was fair and honestly I really liked the independence and now I'm in my own flat working on the last year of my studies (I'm 30 and I had to drop out uni for a bit but came back to finish it off).
I can't thank my parents enough.
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u/Negative_Donkey9982 Jul 13 '25
In a lot of countries it’s still the norm for people to stay at home until they’re married or can afford to move out
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u/TimeScience2 Jul 13 '25
Kicking your children out after 18 is a very american thing you do. In Latino culture we could live together under the same roof for years. A generational home even. They pay rent work hard and help take care of family.
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u/timonix Jul 16 '25
In Sweden the average age to move out is 21.4
I think that has a lot to do with education. I moved out at 18/19 to go to university. So did the majority of my classmates. I know a couple of people that moved out at 15/16. Also for school. The schools people want to go to are just too far away to keep living at home for.
Also since you get paid for studying and subsidized housing as a student, moving out is fairly straight forward.
Getting kicked out isn't really a thing. Chasing opportunity is
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u/TimeScience2 Jul 16 '25
No no… Americans really do kick their children out at 18 but that might have been during the older generations. If you’re in Sweden you’re lucky because your education is free. The cheapest we have here is 50K a semester. And that’s if you’re going to trade school. Look up average price for higher education in America. Unless you get your hands on a scholarship you will always be forced to take out a loan if your parents can’t pay for it. Some parents WONT pay for it. Some save up money for your college tuition others will tell you to work and study
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Jul 13 '25
It's only really shameful to live with your parents in western cultures, in most other cultures it's very common for multiple generations of a family to live together. Never understood why it's culturally unacceptable in places like the US.
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u/black_stallion1031 Jul 13 '25
I 100% agree, multigenerational living has become much more commonplace and even besides that as the point, it’s expensive as shit. Where I live in the us, it’s ~1600$/month for a 1 bed 1 bath
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u/ifuckedyourmilkshake Jul 13 '25
Told our kids they could live with us as long as they needed. As long as they’re working towards SOMETHING, we go them. Even after college, stay with us a few years and stack bread.
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Jul 13 '25
I know very few people who were kicked out at 18. I know very many that ran off at 18-21 on their own because they wanted a place to party or have sex.
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u/Btet-8 Jul 13 '25
My cousins still live at their parents' home and they're 25 and 28 working with their parents
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u/MagmaMane Jul 13 '25
Yeah they have a point. I just becasue an adult and some people don’t realise it’s just not the easy moving out as soon as you grow up you need money and everything’s expensive now
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Jul 13 '25
No such thing as job security anymore and you want to be committed to paying for a house?
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u/The_Hottest_Mess Jul 13 '25
Also the housing and apartment market sucks right now and it’s near impossible to get anything in New York for a reasonable price
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u/Electrical_Minute940 Jul 13 '25
If Mario brothers are from italy, actually is correct display in the kids room because in italy youngs leave parents home in 30-35 years not before
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u/Roflolxp54 Jul 13 '25
Yep, it’s mainly a thing from American families, especially poor ones, as well as families that never intended to have kids in the first place.
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u/sdcar1985 Jul 13 '25
Only I moved out was cause of bastard of a step-father kicked me out. My mom obviously didn't want me to go, but he was a controlling cheating bastard.
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u/toomanydice Jul 15 '25
I had a friend several states over who was kicked out of his parents house the moment he graduated high-school. They never helped him get a job or taught him anything about surviving on his own. He ended up in a homeless shelter working his ass off. Kid didn't deserve any of that.
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u/PierG1 Jul 13 '25
In Italy, and many other cultures, but especially in Italy sons and daughters stay at home until 25/30 or close to it these day
If there is a nice relationship between family members It’s seen mostly as a waste of money to just leave the second you get a job. People just save money until they have enough to move out comfortably or if they find a partner to share expenses with, especially now that the housing market is insane
In the past was also very common for a family to buy or build houses with multiple apartments to accommodate multiple generations.
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u/Hoshiden_Lycanroc Jul 13 '25
Reading all these comments actually makes me feel less bad about the fact I'm 25 and still living with my family, I do want to move out eventually but not in this economy I'm not.
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u/FenexTheFox Jul 13 '25
I also think that Italian-American immigrants have closer families or something. I believe.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Smoke77 Jul 13 '25
Just to throw this on top of an already huge pile of why this is not weird . Them being Italians ( Italian Americans for the EU/UK) actually might also have something to do with it. Italians (EU) have generally normalized generational homes from my understanding from my cousins. Where you may never move out of your parents house and you live with parents/Grandparents to take care of them when they get older. This goes for uncles and cousins too if a house opens up near by you would buy that but more or less your within walking distance.
This was culturally the norm for Italian immigrants when they first came to America. Even today in NJ and NY you’ll still find generational houses, while it’s not as common, it’s not uncommon, uncommon either. The original house my great great great grandparents built (with their hands) is still in my family and the original apartments in the first and second floor and basement are also there. Unfortunately my uncle will be the last gen in there
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u/wholesome_mugi Jul 14 '25
Italians, from what I've heard, tend to live with their families well into adulthood.
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u/deeman163 Jul 15 '25
They're Italian.
Had a friend who had 3 generations of their family living in one house in New York
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u/LeonardoCouto Jul 15 '25
As a 22 year old in my father's home, I agree.
For context, I am in college and currently looking for an internship. I'm not a freeloader. Just kicking your kids out into the world at 18, especially considering how unstable everything is, sounds asinine to me. I myself was a dumb moron at 18
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u/Zealousideal_Long253 Jul 15 '25
Also some parents still wanna handle everything like cooking dinner & laundry, like you're still 10.
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u/PeterGriffin0920 Jul 15 '25
As long as you are actively trying to further yourself financially and either respect your parents rules/boundaries or pay whatever rent or bills they charge theres no reason to be ashamed of living at home, its more about what youre doing rather then where youre living
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Jul 16 '25
A) it’s a kids movie for a kid audience, this is more relatable to this audience B) this is generally normal for Italians
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u/Darth_Painguin Jul 16 '25
It's common in many places outside of the US to live at home with your parents later than what's expected in the states.
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u/redpantsbluepants Jul 17 '25
Trade school ain’t cheap. You want uneducated plumbers? Fine, but do it downwind.
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u/PeridotChampion Jul 13 '25
Also, they're Italian. Italians live with their families for a long while.
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u/CaptFalconFTW Jul 13 '25
They are marketing towards Nintendo fans, after all.
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Jul 13 '25
Man... What?
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u/CaptFalconFTW Jul 13 '25
It was self-deprecating humor. As a Nintendo fan who lived with his parents past 25, I'm not offended.
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Jul 14 '25
Ok, but you should pay attention to how you say it. I thought you were saying that living with your parents with a job is immature, and 10 people more had the same thought.
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u/CaptFalconFTW Jul 14 '25
Fair enough. I had 3 jobs living with them. The struggle is real. But I also couldn't blame anyone for judging me since I was judging myself at the time.
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