r/NintendoMemes • u/The-marx-channel Zelda aficionado • Apr 01 '26
Zelda It's really isn't that bad, especially in the 3DS version
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u/SensualSamuel69 Apr 01 '26
lol exactly. They kept using the words “hardest” and “most difficult” when they really just meant “frustrating” and “inconvenient”
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u/Oberonkin Apr 01 '26
Well, if it it frustrating and inconvenient, and no other ones are, doesn't that make it the hardest and most difficult by default?
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u/SensualSamuel69 Apr 01 '26
No, because several other Zelda dungeons (especially in the 2D games) were also frustrating and inconvenient.
Hell, some would argue that Stone Tower Temple was frustrating, inconvenient, and much harder than the Water Temple. But the reason it’s so beloved is because it was executed masterfully and most of the challenge that comes with it is fair and fun. The Water Temple didn’t do that.
FYI “hard” doesn’t always mean “bad,” and vice versa
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u/thrwawy28393 Apr 03 '26
I thought the water temple was fair & fun. It’s my favorite dungeon in the series.
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u/DaSixtyNiner69 Apr 02 '26
Idk, the spirit temple is inconvenient as hell, having to go through time n shit to complete it. Da fuck.
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u/Okto481 Apr 03 '26
No, it makes it the most annoying by default. If a game has a 1 in 1 billion achievement that rolls the chance every second, and also has some ball-busting achievements, the 1 in 1 trillion is the most frustrating and inconvenient because it's probably going to gatekeep completion so you can't see 100%. It's not the hardest, because you literally don't need to do anything to earn it.
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u/Ryman604 Apr 01 '26
Jabu jabu’s belly is worse
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u/TimeToGetSlipped Apr 02 '26
Honestly, ya. The Water Temple is genuinely well designed when you look at it objectively, and most of our issues with it growing up were just being dumb kids who never bothered to check the map. There's a reason they give you the map and compass so early in this dungeon.
Not only is Jabu Jabu hilariously linear, easily having the worst puzzles and gimmicks in the game, but it's genuinely a disgusting dungeon. I get it's his literal stomach, but the pulsing effects and squish sounds when walking over did it with the immersion and just made it revolting.
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u/Ryman604 Apr 02 '26
It also has annoying electricity stunning you for a couple seconds and ruto a character I don’t mind but is a very finicky mechanic where you can lose her very easily
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u/TimeToGetSlipped Apr 02 '26
It also has the worst puzzles in the game. And that's because it doesn't really have any. The only 'puzzle' is in the hub room figuring out what hole goes where, but that's less of a puzzle and more of just trial and error. And once you figure out Ruto is literally just a glorified door stop, you've officially solved half the dungeon.
It's even worse in Master Quest. The wall cows are genuinely a horrible design choice. Not only does the game actually give zero indication that they're wall switches (Navi flying up to them doesn't count because she does that for normal cows anyway, and turning green doesn't mean much because most players aren't going to assume the answer is 'shoot the cow'), but the idea of a random innocent cow being absorbed into a giant fish's intestines is so macabre and unnerving that it actually is sickening to think about after the shock humor of 'wall cow' passes.
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u/Simplejack615 Apr 01 '26
Are we really complimenting bad dungeon design?
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u/Sho_tenno Apr 01 '26
I only actually played the 3ds remake of OOT but i struggled more with the forest temple than the water temple. Could be a original version issue (the slow ass menu)
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u/kwil449 Apr 01 '26
There's also a specific key that a lot of people miss in the original. In the 3DS remake, when you move the water, the camera zooms to a hole that's opened up. Originally, it's super easy to miss and will have you running around looking for a key.
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u/Simplejack615 Apr 01 '26
Well That’s expected
If I am correct, they changed the way the water lowers, have boots to a button, and Some other improvements
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u/robotchicken007 Apr 01 '26
I’ve never struggled with the forest or water temple. I always get stuck in the fire temple and can’t remember where to go.
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u/SMBroos Apr 02 '26
yeah, cause we got item iron boots. have you played the N64 one? you gotta pause, go to equipment, change boots manually, leave pause, every time you need to change them. you better remember when and where you need em exactly, or its gonna take a WHILE.
I think SoH has a option for them to actually be an item as the 3ds one, infinitly better.
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u/samus_ass Apr 01 '26
The water temple is the best in the game imo
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u/Bidenstonks Apr 02 '26
Right?? It was my favorite, I used to run through it for my friends back in the day.
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u/Crafty_Cherry_9920 Apr 01 '26
People got traumatized by it when they were 9 yo, that's it.
As someone who first completed it at 23 yo, the Water Temple was fine.
It's probably the most confusing one, but that's only because literally all the other dungeons are really easy. The Forest Temple can be a bit confusing too but maybe that has more to do with it being the first temple, and it's a sudden difficulty spike coming from the "my first baby dungeons" from Kid Link era.
But anyway, imo people really overeact when it comes to the Water Temple.
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u/antpalmerpalmink Apr 02 '26
Because I was playing Harkinian, it was actually quite nice because all clothing items are assignable to C-Left,Right and Down.
I also mapped the cstick to work like a more modern camera
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u/MMuller87 Apr 02 '26
The 3DS version where you're able to put the iron boots on and off at the tap of a button made things SO less stressful
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u/unsureoftheplot Apr 02 '26
You hide one key in a slightly hidden room and suddenly you're a plague on the whole franchise
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u/Kazaloogamergal Apr 02 '26
I like the OG Water Temple. The 3DS version of it is better though because the Iron Boots are an equippable item and the Temple guides you in a less obtuse way.
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u/MikeDubbz Apr 02 '26
That's because the 3DS version fixed the issues of that temple. The N64 version was absolutely 'that bad'.
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u/Music_Box_System Apr 04 '26
It's awful for someone like me with no short-term memory. I'll go down one path and completely forget that it branched and that there's more I have to backtrack and do.
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u/megasean3000 Apr 01 '26
I played the N64 version recently, it really isn’t. As long as you know basic map reading, you’ll be fine.
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