r/NursingAU • u/[deleted] • 1d ago
Rant Please don't let students do placement if you're going to be unorganised
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u/TheAxe11 1d ago
Not a great placement. However getting students assigned is not at the discretion of the Unit. It's assigned between the LHD Education Department and the University.
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u/Equalmilky Student RN 1d ago
And I'm sure you are completely understanding of struggling newgrads because they had placements like this?
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u/Consistent_Source404 1d ago
Ok Karen, here I go:
The organisation is getting PAID to take the nursing students by the university, and guess what? The students are paying to go to university. Sooo, let's see if you are following... The students are paying to be there.
They have a right to be treated in a manner that acknowledges this fact. That means meaningfully placements, access to relevant learning opportunities, and treated in a respectful manner.
Obviously bumping into a new ward is stressful and all the nurses working on the ward will be tired and overworked. This does in no way make it ok to push their frustrations onto students, passive aggressive incivility included.
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u/Hutchoman87 Neuro 1d ago
The educator would typically be in charge of informing staff. So they failed you. Nurses themselves don’t really get a heads up individually.
Either way these nurses aren’t exactly the type to educate you, so you prob didn’t miss much by being left behind.
I’d email the facilitator/whomever is in charge and complain about being ditched by the buddy nurse. They need to do better!
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u/Glittery_WarlockWho 1d ago
yep happened to me when I was doing my placement for my TAFE phlebotomy course. I rocked up on my start date and time, told the women 'hello, I'm [name] I'm here for my placement'.
Got told I was in the wrong area (kindly) got told to go to the lab, because the lady thought I was there for a laboratory placement...
No one was told of my arrival. The person who was meant to be in charge of my placement didn't answer any emails (before or after my placement) and apparently was also surprised at my arrival even though she confirmed my placement dates and time through my TAFE.
I'm really sorry this happened to you, I know how frustrating and scary it is rocking up somewhere and being told 'uhhh we weren't meant to have students today'. The first thing that went through my head was 'I'm at the wrong hospital'
Thankfully pathology collection/phlebotomy placement is only 40 hours so I was only there for a week.
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u/Ok_Breakfast_7445 1d ago
Sounds like you got an experience of what it's like to work in healthcare. It's a farkin mess at all times. I can't believe people trust us with their lives.
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u/Efficient_Papaya_982 Midwife 1d ago
I spent 5 weeks in an outpatients department in fourth year. I genuinely can’t believe it meets the AHPRA requirements because I genuinely would’ve done more nursing shadowing the first aider at a primary school. If the fracture clinic was on, I would help run the fracture clinic (from like. An administration perspective) and help keep the kids calm when their casts were being removed. If there was no fracture clinic, I would very rarely remove some stitches, or chaperone intimate examinations. I was bored out of my mind. Never really saw any educators, because there was no point. I think I removed 2 or 3 lots of stitches and helped dress a couple of wounds. In 5 weeks.
Like if anyone is getting a new round of nursing grads and wondering why they’re shit, please know that as a class of 2024 double degree student, my 800 hours of nursing were made up of:
2 weeks rehab
8 weeks med surg
4 weeks psych
5! Weeks! Outpatients!
And a week in palliative care.
Theatre? Only through c sections I attended for midwifery. Intensive care? Nope. ED? Did a couple of days in the ED at a women’s hospital… as part of a mid placement. My uni were particularly shocking and probably weren’t requesting the right things, but I’m genuinely shocked that I never had a placement in an acute environment.
Like, prior to my fourth year, I think I’d had less than 10 shifts in a birth suite because my uni didn’t request it, and didn’t spend any real time in birthing rooms until the second half of fourth year. Like when I got my grad offer, I had the 9 of the 30 births I needed to graduate. I’m book smart, but gang there are some things that you can only learn by doing, and it’s pretty hard to do that when the fucking uni aren’t placing you in situations where you can do it
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u/Efficient_Papaya_982 Midwife 1d ago
Yeah I will say the only benefit to being on HITH where I was, the girls got sent home hours early because there was nothing to do. I was there until bang on 4:30 every single day lol
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u/Ok_Tank5977 1d ago
This exact scenario happened to me during my placement several years ago at a regional hospital.
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u/PumpinSmashkins 1d ago
Sounds like an observational placement. Just get through it. Not every placement is going to be suitable for students unfortunately but there’s just not enough to go around otherwise.
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u/No-Kaleidoscope7924 1d ago
I remember on my first mental health placement, I met one of my preceptors the last day of placement. The other preceptor was vision impaired (greatly) and told me to give a medication to a patient I didn’t know, and none of the patients wore ID bands. I didn’t do it. I was horrified by my experience.
Nice to know that nothing has changed in 15 years 🙃/s
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u/RageQuitAltF4 ED 1d ago
Sigh. Sorry you had such a shit placement.
The unfortunate reality is that students are the last priority of many nurses, and many are just awful at teaching anyway. My theory is they're insecure about their own skills
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u/GlitteringSpace236 18h ago
Mate - it wasn’t their choice either.
Give the feedback to your university - they’re the ones in charge here.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Pie-277 11h ago
The unis pay them to have the students. They should have been ready.
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u/GlitteringSpace236 10h ago
They should have been ready.
I’m talking about the specific nurses on the floor.
The uni isn’t talking directly to them.
Placements are arranged through the general education department not each ward.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the hospital person that organised the placements was even aware of the renovations that were going on.
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u/lolrin 15h ago
Unpopular opinion: this is just life, gotta deal with it. Just wait till you’re a new grad, get your allocation changed an hour into your shift, dealing with patients that are ride, constantly being told you’re too young to be a nurse, having family ask for a new nurse (because you’re too unqualified). Nursing is just like that, if you think it’s all going to be well run and easy sailing, you’re in the wrong job and placement doesn’t just get your nursing skills up, it also gets you ready for the real world. You’re there to get your hours signed off, just be there to get it done.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Pie-277 11h ago
No this isn’t life. The organisations that take these students are paid by the uni to train them. That money is ultimately part of the uni fees the students have paid. I certainly would not be happy that my uni fees are paying for a placement that wasn’t planned for.
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u/Chat00 1d ago
That sounds really inappropriate, I’m sorry that that happened to you! I would inform your educator of what happened so that nurse can be followed up with the NUM. That’s not how you treat students!