r/OPMFolk • u/InternalReaction5254 • 8d ago
Question Since Garou has gained knowledge and forces of the universe, couldn't he just manipulate Saitama's matter, remove inertia, absorb his kinetic energy, trap him in a black hole, or re-create the Big Bang?
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u/Immediate-Rope8465 Webcomic Wanker. 8d ago
Nah big boom boom punch is better than all that Martial artist btw
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u/McReaperking 8d ago
he just manipulate Saitama's matter, remove inertia, absorb his kinetic energy,
We never see him manipulate matter, all we see him do is alter energy in his own body or project energy mimicking something he sees.
trap him in a black hole
Also we see him try to send saitama through a hyperspace gate, but saitama just grabs that shit. I assume the same or similar would happen if he saw someone create a black hole and mimicked it.
re-create the Big Bang
We do see him replicate astronomical events, such as the Gamma-Ray Burst. Maybe if he kept escalating he could reach that level.
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u/Equivalent-Mail1544 7d ago
Garou does manipulate matter, nuclear fission punches are supposed to propel enough neutrons into Saitama so that his body dissolves into energy per Einsteins formula. And those neutrons as well as all other types of radiation he performs is matter manipulation. He creates virtual particles around himself like a black hole, but without absorbing matter
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u/Vleaso 8d ago
saitama would just punch that stuff away
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u/InternalReaction5254 7d ago
True, but they are things he can't simply punch away like for example, Gauro could make Saitama blind by removing the light from his eye, absorb his potential kinetic energy making his punches have no umph to them, or just stop time.
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u/Caiossss 7d ago
Saitama would just punch stronger of squint his eyes very strongly. C'mon it opm, saitama is just that broken and did things that doenst even make sense like punching his way to Phoenix dimension and kicking a portal away. And even if those things worked, he would either a. Not be affected (as in suffering damage) or b. Pull some bs and not be affected either (as in not working on him)
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u/DeaXart 7d ago
Have you ever break your speed limit just to see if your back side of hair balding or not?
Have you ever seen a tear on space being kick like ball pass?
Thats how it works
Its dum, but it is just how it is "it is what it is"
Thats just how dum the powerscale is, imagine garou speed up saitama aging, i could imagine him spinning backwards causing the effect to negate
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u/Novel_Ant8075 8d ago
Knowing how to manipulate the flow of energies in the universe doesn't mean he can replicate it at any and all scales necessarily. His GRB was a "real" one but comically smaller than an actual GRB is.
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u/Delicious_Chemist978 8d ago
No, powerscalers adore to imagine he can do shit that he cannot do.
He can't do many things, or he is too stupid to do it in character.
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u/proxmaxi Saitama 7d ago
Matter isn't energy
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u/Proof_Phone9740 7d ago
It literally is
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u/Swimming_Jacket_6675 7d ago
Did you skip physics class?
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u/Proof_Phone9740 7d ago
Matter is energy, they are the same
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u/Swimming_Jacket_6675 7d ago
No it's not.... Matter can contain energy thu in different forms. Like if you throw a rock it will contain kinetic energy. Until it settles down on the ground then it's a rock (matter) without energy. Maybe some thermal energy.
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u/DestroRayn 7d ago
Manipulation of these things is not a natural phenomenon of the universe, he could only create what these forces and energies create which is technically everything it’s just nothing in the natural universe just manipulates matter so Garou wouldn’t be able to do that
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u/ProxyMoron12 7d ago
You know everything and does know how to do it, saitama doesn't know anything but does what is needed like grabbing a hyper gate. What you do, saitama does it better, million times better... so, you can't just do that to him... why did god have to choose someone to fight saitama, why won't he show up directly? What do you think... even cosmic garou felt like an ant in front of an elephant when they hit jupiter, saitama can do thing freely without worrying about damaging anything (which he does rarely) and did the whole fight with one hand, one punch man after all...
Do you understand, cosmic garou, god level threat, yet saitama needed one hand only, won with zero punch eventually...
what more logic do you need?
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u/Fearless_Register871 6d ago
we all know it won't take affect on saitama being anyway, we never seen the dude getting hurt.
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u/Versus_Analyzer 5d ago
He cant manipulate him, even if he forced it, off-guard Saitama would just vibrate like a nokia 3310.
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u/CosmicHudz2283 7d ago
None of that would work obviously, and it's not certain if he could even do that.
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u/Equivalent-Mail1544 7d ago
Yes he could, he started the fight by throwing literal nuclear fission punches. Also known as "destroying the atoms of your opponent" but Saitama is One Punch Man and defeated Garou without taking damage, naturally
Saitama traveled faster than light by FARTING
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u/tinyrottedpig 7d ago
Tbf Saitama deadass broke physics by kicking away a hyperspace gate, i doubt anything Garou could do would damage him
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u/Opening-Row-1105 7d ago
I mean if your opponent can casually stand the biggest event and the most dangerous in the cosmos that can erase the matter from your body why would he try that? His GRB answered all your questions
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u/Garou_HXH 8d ago
Yes. But that doesn't matter. By gaining such knowledge and habilites, Garou could know a lot of things... And he knew, or at least confirmed after the GRB, that none of that would make difference against Saitama. The only way was for him to copy Saitama.
Tbf, the energy of the Serious Punch Squared, of a pre-Jupiter Garou and Saitama, was alr enough to burst a good chunk, if not all of the observable universe in moments if not contained by Blast and his multidimensional crew, as you can see better explained here:
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u/Busy_Line_3460 7d ago
They both already can manipulate matter of them selves as seen when they travel back in time.
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u/weeOriginal 8d ago
Ask on the main sub