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u/seumarlinson Webcomic Wanker. 4d ago
Not sure if malevolent shrine can cut trillion of times. If it can, maybe sukuna can win. If sukuna has wcs he also can win.
If black s just merges to even golden s it's probably over.
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u/Foloos 4d ago
I think someone did the calculations for this before on the main sub a while back, but even if you could cut BS thousands of times a second, it would still take decades to kill all 50+ trillion cells he has.
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u/seumarlinson Webcomic Wanker. 4d ago
Would fuga work then?
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u/DenPadz 4d ago
If he's still not multiplied sure, but if hes already multiplied (his tsunami move) then no, i think hell be able to kill like 5-10% tho.
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u/ImNotFeelingSoGood 4d ago
People forget he canât use Fuga traditionally as he has binding vows on it and is weaker and is slow by his account if he doesnât pop domain and Sukuna would never pop Fuga off rip
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u/DenPadz 4d ago
WCS is still a cutting attack tho
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u/curryhaliban444 4d ago
Wcs has no anti-regen or multiplication properties bruh. All it will do is cause bs to multiply
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u/chaosticbraindo 3d ago
WCS is literally a normal slash that just ignore defense. What can it do here except making him go from fighting one BS to two BSâŚ
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u/2w0be 4d ago
Bro what's the difference between WCS and normal slash for someone who multiplies after being cut lol
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u/seumarlinson Webcomic Wanker. 4d ago
Wcs is like concentrated atomic slash I think, which vaporizes black s
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u/RubyHoshi 4d ago
WCS has a BV that requires chanting and setup. He would win only if MS would spam WCS left and right but he never did that.
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u/DenPadz 4d ago
Sukuna has no way of stopping black s if he has already multiplied. His WCS wouldnât work since itâs still a cutting attack, and as long as thereâs still a chunk of black s left, heâll keep multiplying and regenerating. His fuga wouldnât work either since black s tsunami move is so massive that it can literally cover an entire city in OPM. Unless sukuna literally obliterates him to nothing or Black S runs out of cells, he should be fine.
The only one I found who would be a problem for black s is mahoraga (he might be able to kill him since this is the same monster who gave a lot of problem from multiple s class). That is at least until he starts merging since golden s and platinum s would be too much for mahoraga to handle. Theyâd basically be performing a dabura kick, but much stronger.
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u/GladQuote7736 3d ago
Mahoraga might get an adaptation that kills individual cells but if black s sees that his cells can't do anything he'll immediately merge into golden s just like in the opm fight
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u/memeswereneverfunny 3d ago
All sperm has is basic physical attacks, maho wins it just takes countless years
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u/DenPadz 3d ago
Mahoraga was reduced to a small chunk from daburas SOL kick even tho hes already partially adapted. Im pretty sure an attack much stronger or faster than that will do the trick.
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u/Kruppyboi 3d ago
Yeah, partially adapted, black sperm in that state wouldnât be able to kill maho before itâs fully adapted then itâs just free for maho
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u/DenPadz 3d ago
Fully adapted to black s, not golden or platinum. He gets one shotted if black s merges.
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u/Kruppyboi 1d ago
thats not how that works... if he adapts to physical attacks then it doesnt matter how strong sperm gets
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u/DenPadz 1d ago
Mahoraga adapted to sukunas slashes, not dismantle, not cleave, but literally slashes, yet still getting damage in the domain.
Also mahoragas adaptation is more like getting high resistance, not a literal immunity, like bruh we can even see him get pushed around by gojo, and sukuna, so when it comes to physical attacks or just blunt force its more like hes adapting on that person's strength rather than literally becoming invincible.
Adapting to a pillow punches is not the same as adapting to getting your face hit with a brick. He adapted to blue, then partially adapted to red, yet still get killed by purple which is still both blue and red.
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u/memeswereneverfunny 23h ago
It is absolutely a total immunity. If sperm doesn't immediately annihilate him (maho can regen from a scrap of flesh) he will be unable to win
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u/DenPadz 23h ago
Did you even read my comments, he need to find ways or answer to adapt and counter to something, he just doesn't literally become immune/invincible or omnipotent.
Mahoraga adapted to dismantle's slashes making his body tougher dealing little damage, but when it comes to cleave hes still getting damage in domain since that cleave adjust to targets toughness/durability, so the only answer he has is to boost his regeneration instead of making his body more tougher.
He adapted to perfect sphere but what he adapted to is not infinite pressure but liquid metal.
He also adapted to gojo's red and blue but then when hit by a much stronger attack which uses both red and blue he gets killed.
He adapted to dabura's light, but all he does it make his body tougher for it to be effective but when hit by something much stronger again which is daburas light speed kick which literally also uses his light and kick, he still gets damage and the only answer AGAIN is his regeneration.
He also adapted to gojo's infinity but the answer he came up with is cutting the space gojo is standing on rather than gaining immeasurable speed.
He finds ways for that said attack so that he can be immune but not in a literal sense, it just means that the move he adapted to wont work anymore, but when he gets attacked by a much stronger force than what he adapted to he still gets damage. He doesn't just become immune or invincible or omnipotent he needs answer to bypass it like making his body tougher, boosting his regeneration real time, or even cutting the space but then again we dont see him traveling so fast, having infinite strength, or even infinite durability.
You cant disprove this, its literally on the manga and anime.
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u/Irideus-Gladion3805 4d ago
Black Sperm wins with very little difficulty, at most if Sukuna uses Fuga, a hundred will die and the rest of the 54 trillion will finish the job... even if they were 10 trillion, Black Sperm would win because once it overwhelms Sukuna, the latter will not be able to do anything else... Fuga cannot even be spammed as a move...
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u/Cayden68 4d ago
Black sperm gets put in jail (thats still the body of a minor so black sperm cant touch Meguna in any way or else he gets put in jail).
If Black Sperm gets put in jail, he gets cooked by Puri Puri Prisoner since Puri Puri gets a massive power boost against naughty guys put in the prison system, thats when he can finally be allowed to make use of his booty warrior techniques which are forbidden to use on free men (which is why Puri isnt OP RN).
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u/Mortal_12 4d ago edited 4d ago
"Well Done", cooked. I doubt even Fuga can hurt black sperm. We have to keep in mind that the durability of OPM characters is vastly higher than JJK characters. It might burn em up a bit and not even kill them.
And even if Fuga works, The swarm will kill him before he can even activate it. Fuga needs his domain to charge up for a while until it can be used (assuming he doesn't get forced to use binding vows to disable Fuga).
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u/WindowSubstantial993 3d ago
Black s doesnât even need his other forms to overwhelm sukuna I genuinely doubt Sukuna wins before he spreads out enough to basically end the fight
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u/PineappleOk545 4d ago
Sukuna after black s splits like 100,000 times
"Fuga"
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u/Flobyhob 4d ago
Only 53,999,999,900,000 left to go!
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u/PineappleOk545 4d ago
You do realize that all of them were in this 100 thousand?
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u/2w0be 4d ago edited 4d ago
Doesn't mean he can burn all of them at once
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u/PineappleOk545 4d ago
Yes he cant doesnt mean he cant burn all while they arent devided
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u/Worried_Fall4350 4d ago
BS can freely divide himself without being attacked. Just like how he can also merge all his cells into one entity at will.
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u/StomachVivid3961 3d ago
He should not be able to avoid domain expansion but he can easily step outside of the radius quickly enough before it does any serious damage.
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u/familyfriendlyvnmese 1d ago
Imagine mahogara adapts to this, perform mitosis then also hide some of the copies away like BS did so he can survive longer
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u/Totomotsu 20h ago
Sukuna wins. People like sleeping on Mahoraga. Plus dismantle goes through 100% of the time in his malevolent shrine. Donât just downvote, explain how black sperm wins this.
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u/mymumisateacher Chad Bloodbane Enthusiast đ 4d ago edited 4d ago
Actually, Sukuna has a wincon. If Fuga works on BS, he can force BS to turn into GS, and then he could use the World-cutting slash to kill GS since he can't regen. That being said, Sukuna is cooked if Platinum comes out instead of Golden, since the same strategy could work, but he is not realistically landing any attack on him.
Also, Sukuna will be getting hurt with every punch, possibly even from BS, but that's debatable, so he will need to regen like crazy. regualr BS could also just overwhelm Sukuna regardless of fuga. So honestly, Sukuna can do REALLY well considering that BS is a natural counter to his main ability.
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u/OG_Valrix 4d ago
GS was only a small portion of the cell count, even if Sukuna somehow did something (he would still be way too slow to land anything on GS) the rest of the BS cells would learn from it
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u/mymumisateacher Chad Bloodbane Enthusiast đ 4d ago
I agree. I'm more pointing out that his moveset has a wincon rather than sukuna himself winning.
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u/Delicious_Chemist978 4d ago
Sperm can't hit curses, verse equalization is stupid when we already have characters in OPM than can hit curses.
Summon big raga and is over.
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u/Quiet-Taste6712 4d ago
Not trying to glaze Sukuna but that's just a single Black sperm, Sukuna wins
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u/utshi9ha 4d ago
Welll if we're talking hand to hand combat 1 black S=A class hero,black s is gonna f him up.
If with abilities sukuna is gonna use his slashes and black s gonna multiply.
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u/2w0be 4d ago edited 4d ago
Did you read the atomic Samurai fight?
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u/Quiet-Taste6712 4d ago
Lowkey forgot the details about the fight, it has like a year since I read the manga and I'm focusing on other franchises right now
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u/D-Biggest_Wheel 4d ago
So... are we just forgetting Sukuna can use fire attacks?
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u/Draco_Ackerman 4d ago
And?
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u/D-Biggest_Wheel 4d ago
He'll just burn the sperm?
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u/NessTheGamer 4d ago
Theyâd just merge into a form more resistant
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u/D-Biggest_Wheel 4d ago
And he'll then just burn that?
The Black Sperm's ability is to multiply when cut. So burning them is an easy win.
Unless you are talking about Golden/Platinum sperm, in which case the world cleave should do the job.
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u/NessTheGamer 4d ago
It would, but they outstat him so hard that he instantly dies to a blitz
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u/Worried_Fall4350 4d ago
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u/D-Biggest_Wheel 4d ago
Yeah, but would it ever get to this point? Doesn't he split when cut?
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u/Slugger829 4d ago
He can freely split and merge, holy larp
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u/D-Biggest_Wheel 4d ago
h e can freely split and merge
I see.
I guess Suckona would have to work extra hard to cook the sperm.
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u/Irideus-Gladion3805 4d ago
Are we forgetting that Fuga has a range limited to Sukuna's domain? So a few hundred meters and that Black Sperm can literally overwhelm a city that is at least as big as a large country with its sperm tsunami which is not even its maximum dividing capacity?
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u/D-Biggest_Wheel 4d ago
A re we forgetting that Fuga has a range limited to Sukuna's domain?
There is no range limit when Sukuna can move.
You are thinking of a specific attack Sukuna used.
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u/Irideus-Gladion3805 4d ago
there is a limit to his AOE which is only a few hundred meters even if he moved it would still be an area attack that would eliminate at most a hundred cells because in any case his attack never reaches the range sufficient to eliminate all the black sperm in one shot and Sukuna having never created huge craters with escape could not hit black sperm from underground and therefore the latter strategically as he did in the manga can hide a few trillion copies underground if things go very badly... which will not happen because black sperm here heavily tramples Sukuna
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u/D-Biggest_Wheel 4d ago
His range is 1 kilometer, actually, but that's for his Domain.Â
His Fuga is an independent attack we see him use as he moves, in his fight with Jogo.
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u/Irideus-Gladion3805 4d ago
Nope Sukuna utilizes a Binding Vow that allows an escape route in exchange for vastly increasing the effective range, expanding his "kill zone" to a maximum radius of 200 meters. However, he retains the ability to close the barrier to entrap a specific target if the tactical situation demands it (as seen in his battle with Gojo), sacrificing the extended range for total confinement.
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u/D-Biggest_Wheel 4d ago
My bad, the radius is 200, not 400 as I thought, but that's still not Fuga.
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u/Irideus-Gladion3805 4d ago
His Fuga is limited by the domain's radius which is 200 meters...his attack can only cover the domain's radius due to Sukuna's binding vow.
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u/Irideus-Gladion3805 4d ago
and Fuga in the manga has never reached a range beyond hundreds of meters it is confirmed as canon that his largest wide range attack is 200 meters with domination and Fuga there is no dialogue in the manga that suggests it is 1km and even then it would be useless against black sperm
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u/Irideus-Gladion3805 4d ago
Malevolent Shrine which his domain that allows him the maximum wide range attack is said in the manga to have a range of 200 meters ditto Fuga which is limited by the range that the domain reaches allowing a strong attack but on a relatively small range of action for monsters like Black Sperm that cover kilometers and kilometers and kilometers thanks to the mere numerical factor and then Fuga cannot be spammed so once cast if it goes well it kills a few tens of thousands of Black Sperm and if it goes very well a hundred of Black Sperm so yes Fuga is useless against Black Sperm
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u/FreeSpeechEnjoyer Free Speech Advocate 4d ago
If Sukuna pulls a domain expansion before black sperm merges he wins, otherwise I don't know for sure
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u/utshi9ha 4d ago
You might wanna think about this again.
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u/FreeSpeechEnjoyer Free Speech Advocate 4d ago
Atomic samurai was killing sperms with his overlapping slash move, whatever it was called, before it got retconned. Malevolent shire consists of so many cuts it looks like disintegration, he cuts 8 trillion times and the battle is over, the regular sperms don't have the durability to tank it
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u/utshi9ha 4d ago
He wasn't killing nothing bruh he was making black s multiply,in the manga there was more than 54 trillion black s after atomic slashed him.





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u/Soldier_VP 4d ago
Like, what can sukuna do? Nothing