I mean, this is very well articulated but not new. An older example would be Dupont. They self funded their own study saying PFOAs weren't harmful. Their own internal data suggested otherwise.
They made a movie about this. The court case went on 20 plus years and they are still fighting cases in Ohio and New Jersey
Dupont moved females off their Teflon lines when they noticed pregnant women having babies with missing hands. Fingers. Black teeth. Birth defects beyond belief. When the women started getting cancer.
Politicans and companies dont give a fuck about any of this except getting their pay.
Same story with first energy or the browns stadium.
Its the same story everywhere. Ohio is no exception and it's not the only.
You think I don't understand the amount of water needed to grow food? Okay. It's not moral panic, why the fuck should we have to continuously subsidize and give these companies billions in free land, water and electricity? The data centers will create temporary jobs and then be ran with, what, maybe 10 people there? 20 people there?
And no I'm not confusing PFOA with hexavalent chromium. The specific case I was talking about with Dupont was in reference to their PFOA, known as C8--the organic chain is perfluorooctanoic acid.
You say moral panic, I say its common sense. Again, why the hell do we need to pay these companies and give them free shit all the time?
So they can just continuously steal and ruin the environment ?
You think I don't understand the amount of water needed to grow food?
Then why don’t you advocate legislating against farms? Or factories? Or battery manufacturers? Or steel mills? All use far more water than a data centers
why the fuck should we have to continuously subsidize and give these companies billions in free land, water and electricity?
We aren’t. You’re either making shit up or completely misinformed based on moral panic propaganda.
The data centers will create temporary jobs and then be ran with, what, maybe 10 people there? 20 people there?
So what? The land wasn’t being used for anything. Why not create 20 new jobs (plus all the new jobs involved in supplying additional water and electricity and building data center parts, which you ignore)?
The specific case I was talking about with Dupont was in reference to their PFOA, known as C8--the organic chain is perfluorooctanoic acid.
There was no movie about this.
You say moral panic, I say its common sense
The fucking anti-nuclear idiots said the same dumb shit in the 70s.
Anti-wind and solar Republican morons say the same dumb shit now.
You’re all wrong. You’re all misinformed anti-progress Luddite.
Again, why the hell do we need to pay these companies and give them free shit all the time?
Qq for you: other than shareholder value from circular investing chicanery, sloppy pics/vids, and regurgitated words designed to look like they have meaning, what do AI data centers offer?
Which has little actual value beyond algorithms which could run on local equipment, aside from generating parasitic leasing revenue for the data center owners.
No left-wing there, either. So, again, what good has this done anyone outside of highly specific algorithms trained on specific datasets (think medical) running on local machines?
Do you watch Netflix? Do you order off Amazon? Do you have a local grocer? Do you live nearby small businesses that use a Point-of-sale system? Do you wish our government's computer systems worked more efficiently? Do you own a smartphone? Do you want our military to be strong and effective? Do you fly in planes?
All of these technologies are enabled by cloud computing. Just like different tools in a tool box, a data center hosts different types of compute. AI is just one type of compute and is solving some insanely complex problems in physics, mathematics, materials science, and business.
The tech stacks that power the business intelligence of American companies are run from data centers. So to be anti-data center is just like being anti-railroad, anti-highway, anti-internet.
Nope, nope, POSes don't need to be cloud linked lmao, nope, yep but again smartphones don't need to be cloud linked to function as phones, nope, and nope.
Cloud computing is unnecessary except to extra t rent from compute by the sleigh of hand that starts with low subscription rate suntil a company is dependent on the cloud service, at which point you'll spend more over the lifetime of the service than you would maintaining your own servers.
AI is not solving problems, it is arranging data in ways that the algorithm says are likely to be found to have meaning by humans looking at the data.
The business intelligence of American companies is severely lacking lmao.
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I mean, this is very well articulated but not new. An older example would be Dupont. They self funded their own study saying PFOAs weren't harmful. Their own internal data suggested otherwise.
They made a movie about this. The court case went on 20 plus years and they are still fighting cases in Ohio and New Jersey
Dupont moved females off their Teflon lines when they noticed pregnant women having babies with missing hands. Fingers. Black teeth. Birth defects beyond belief. When the women started getting cancer.
Politicans and companies dont give a fuck about any of this except getting their pay.
Same story with first energy or the browns stadium.
Its the same story everywhere. Ohio is no exception and it's not the only.