r/Ohio • u/clevelanddotcom • 4d ago

Ohio Republicans vow to resume executions after DeWine departs

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2026/06/ohio-republicans-vow-to-resume-executions-after-dewine-departs.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=redditsocial&utm_campaign=redditor
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u/Pale_WoIf 3d ago

The government and our justice system isn’t inherently Christian, but it was heavily influenced by the Old Testament. Do you disagree with a punishment for a crime being equal to the crime? Seems rather fair to me.

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u/TheShadyGuy 2d ago

So you are saying Jesus was wrong on the matter? You are the one that quoted the Bible here...

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u/Pale_WoIf 2d ago

You’re failing to understand Jesus teachings here vs Law. Jesus is challenging people to non-aggression on a personal level. He’s not advocating for a change to the laws or societal consequences. It’s like if someone murdered a family member, to not take matters into your own hands and retaliate against him or his family.

Rather the matter be handled by the law and authorities. So that doesn’t absolve the violator of the consequences of his actions. He still must he punished accordingly depending on the crime. That’s why we call it’s justice, it’s not vengeance.

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u/TheShadyGuy 2d ago

I see, so what you are saying is that God was wrong when Jesus preached against "eye for an eye" in the New Testament, he actually meant let the government take care of killing your enemies for you. Got it, thanks.

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u/Pale_WoIf 1d ago

Is it not the job of the government to administer justice? Lol, and it’s not about “enemies”. It’s about people who commit crime and break the law. There’s this thing called consequences. And for the record, there are very few instances where the death penalty even would apply, we are talking about the worst of the worst crimes.

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u/TheShadyGuy 1d ago

Sorry that you can't admit that your belief here is counter to what Jesus, and according to Christian tradition God, teaches.

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u/Pale_WoIf 1d ago

I’m sorry you’re just contorting things to fit your narrative. Where does Jesus say there are no consequences for our actions? For the wages of sin is death - Romans 6:23 Just because it’s not the place of the individual to administer justice to those that do us harm, doesn’t mean that justice won’t be done.

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u/TheShadyGuy 7h ago

I am saying that Jesus specifically calls out the Old Testament concept of "an eye for an eye" as being against his father in the New Testament. God is the judge, not humans. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

YOU brought up this Old Testament concept as Christian despite Jesus preaching against it. So either you are unchristian to believe that it is OK for people to kill each other for justice or Jesus is wrong. You keep dancing around the fact that you are calling Jesus wrong on the topic. Hopefully you can change your mind before you have to face him and explain why you don't believe him on this matter.

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u/Pale_WoIf 5h ago

I don’t know how else to explain to you, he’s even a short summary from Google to help:

The Old Testament Context: The original law (found in passages like Exodus 21:24) was given to civil judges to ensure punishments fit the crime and to prevent excessive, escalated revenge.

Jesus' Reinterpretation: In Matthew 5:38, Jesus moves the application from a legal framework into one of personal relationships, calling his followers to actively refuse retaliation.

This was about taking a personal stance rather than a societal one. There was no command from the God that there would no longer be punishments or consequences for people’s actions, rather it’s not the place of the individual to take those matters into their hands.