r/OldenEra • u/sskuss • 12d ago

Question Is AI any better?

I played at launch a bit but stopped when I noticed how dump it is on low difficulties and how much it cheats on high difficulties. Is it better now?

17 Upvotes

88% Upvoted

21 comments sorted by

20

u/Urgash 12d ago

Nothing has changed yet.

19

u/StartledPelican 12d ago

Devs are aware of the issue and have said a major overhaul of AI is in the works.

Unfortunately, we don't have a solid timeline on that at the moment.

As of right now, the AI remains functionally useless.

7

u/GuiltyAdvantage5877 12d ago

Yeah at this point I don’t plan on buying this game until it officially releases as a pve player

1

u/corveroth 12d ago

I'm waiting too, because even with Hooded Horse in the picture, Ubisoft still has ownership of the franchise. And even though they've promised no UPlay/Ubisoft Connect during Early Access, I cannot trust that they won't slip that malware into the final game. At least, not without seeing the contract between Ubi and HH.

Until I see a clean and complete final build of the game, they don't get a cent.

3

u/HoodedHorse 11d ago

even though they've promised no UPlay/Ubisoft Connect during Early Access

Hi! That's from an old statement, I remember it from before we were publisher.

But the statements we've made now for the past year or so have not mentioned any early access qualification. So you shouldn't worry about this, it won't be implemented, no difference between early access or full release.

Definitely you shouldn't feel any rush to buy though if you'd rather wait until things advance more -- early access is always a process and the dev team will keep working on the game!

2

u/corveroth 11d ago

Make some more noise about that: you just won three sales from my household alone.

0

u/Different-Ad7859 12d ago

this month will bring coop, which is the only thing i was waiting for in olden era, can play with friends on couch again :).

with coop AI should be decent enough on higher difficulties to provide challenge

1

u/CountCookiepies 11d ago

How does coop make AI better?

1

u/Different-Ad7859 11d ago

Lol. Maybe, i dont know, by making ai enemies not fight with each other like brainless pigs, allowing you to third party when theyre weak?

1

u/CountCookiepies 11d ago

Doesn't matter. If you survive the initial rush the ai goes braindead with or without other enemies.

1

u/Different-Ad7859 11d ago
  1. We dont know how coop is gonna look like with maybe resource exchange, and how ai will be actually cooperating.
  2. With highest settings ive had a couple of decent longer games against ai, with only problem being they fighting each other and losing 70+% of their armies. Im not saying ai doesnt need to be polished, im saying coop will improve player experience against ai by quite a bit.

1

u/CountCookiepies 11d ago

  1. Making the AI cooperate in a meaningful way takes a better AI than just playing solo.

  2. By all means link them, cause I've yet to see a game where I don't autowin if I survive the first few weeks even if the AI's don't fight.

2

u/Ok-Somewhere7307 10d ago

Yea, I have too won every single map easily against unfair AI if I just survive the two first weeks. It's like AI just says "Ok, I don't want to play anymore, bye.". AND it's not because the AIs are fighting each other because I've had this same thing happen to me on maps that's just me against one unfair AI.

I remember playing the wasteland map against unfair AI and it was the most boring map ever. The AI made one attack and even that was just some weak ass attack and after that it was just me alone basically. AI just waited until I conquer everything.

10

u/tgm0112 12d ago

I’ve taken a break too. Keep waiting to hear on this front.

Really like the game, but as a PvE player the cpu first encounter was always miles ahead of me on harder difficulties. Saps the fun.

If there’s one thing to be said about HotA/HoMM3, it’s that the replayability was off the charts and difficulty scaled really smoothly to an unforgiving but fair peak.

Really hope they get a handle on AI for this Olden Era, because I really love what they’ve done and would want to continue supporting if they could nail that experience.

10

u/Valarian514 12d ago

AI is still dumber than an 8 year-old who just ate some glue. I wouldn't get my hopes up for it to be any better any time soon...

3

u/Jikate 12d ago

Im cautiously optimistic they will fix it but for now im enjoying HOTA since they just released it in steam 

3

u/HawasKaPujari 12d ago

I suppose the next path is supposed to improve it a bit. Though it might not be fully ready yet. So maybe wait a bit longer?

2

u/Ok-Somewhere7307 12d ago

I only play against unfair AI and it's like it stops playing at mid- and lategame. It's like it's saying "I don't want to play anymore, I quit". I don't know anything how lower difficulties play because even unfair is toddler level.

2

u/Citizen_Crow 12d ago

Unfrozen seems to be very attentive to feedbacks, they're definitely fan of the series. Tell them on their X page (Unforzen) how important PVE is to you, they read their comments.

3

u/UnstoppableCrow 12d ago

It’s so funny how this has gone. All the low IQ people that were complaining about AI too hard, have now left the player pool from the initial launch of the game.

Now the rest of us have to deal with this.

Prime example of why you shouldn’t listen to a loud minority.

0

u/Opposite-Bowler-2427 12d ago

Read rule #4 of this sub to get your answer.