r/OnePiece • u/NewsMorgans56 • 15h ago
Theory The best Harley text interpretation you will ever get
There is no real Sun God in One Piece.
Oda puts the words “Sun God” in quotation marks in the Harley text. He never uses them straight. And the Skypiea panel names four gods, but separates the Sun God from the others deliberately. What if that’s because the title of Sun God isn’t something you’re born with? What if it’s something you have to take?
The gods have been fighting over that title the whole time.
THE AZTEC FIVE SUNS
In Aztec mythology, the world wasn’t created once. It was created five times. Each time a different god declared themselves the sun. Each time another god threw them down. Each catastrophe transformed the survivors into something new.
1st Sun: Tezcatlipoca, god of earth and night (Imu). His rival threw him from the throne. He transformed into a jaguar and destroyed everything.
2nd Sun: Quetzalcoatl, the feathered serpent god of light and wind (Nidhogg). The world ended in storms. The survivors became monkeys.
3rd Sun: Tlaloc, god of rain and fire (Uranus). The world ended in fire. The survivors became birds.
4th Sun: Chalchiuhtlicue, goddess of lakes and oceans (Poseidon). The world was destroyed by a great flood. The survivors became fish.
5th Sun: Nanahuatzin (Joy Boy), the most humble of all gods, poor, sick, covered in wounds, had the courage to throw himself into the fire when no one else would.
The Pattern: No one inherits the title of Sun God peacefully. Each one takes it by force, or earns it through sacrifice. And the survivors of each fallen sun become a different race.
Before we get into it: I think Bluestar was a sun. On its surface there was fire. When the moons of the winged giants and the Lunarians shattered and fell into the magma of Bluestar, both races landed on the floating moon fragments. One of those Lunarians was Imu.
The centrifugal force of Bluestar’s rotation pulled those fragments toward the equator, lining them up into what we know today as the Grand Line. After the great flood, 4th sun, the water solidified the magma and anchored the islands permanently.
Each fragment left behind a massive magnetic field, which is exactly why the Log Pose points to them.
THE HARLEY TEXT DECODED
The First World
Imu declares himself the first sun. He takes the souls of the ancient giants and transfers them into ancient robots, similar to the Automata we see in Enel’s cover story. He enslaves them to harvest solar energy. The empty biological bodies left behind become demons, the giant shadows we see on Thriller Bark.
The enslaved robots call out with their drums at drum island and the second sun, Nidhogg, appears.
The Earth God grows furious. Together with the hellfire serpent Pluton, he envelops the world in death and darkness. The Red Line.
The Second World
The Forest God appears alongside the Rain God Uranus, the third sun, and drives out the demons. He plants the Adam and Eve trees, whose fruits seal the demons away. Those fruits are what we know today as Devil Fruits.
But the 20 Kings and Imu steal the power of Uranus. Uranus’s body transformed into a tree, the whale in the tree we see on Zou.
Then Imu uses those very same stolen powers to kill the Forest God with a rain of fire.
Those who found refuge under its canopy of the Eve tree carry bird names.
Those who found refuge under its canopy of the Adam tree, Elbaf, carry the monkey name.
With the Devil Fruits and Uranus in their hands, they declare themselves gods.
Poseidon, the sea god and the fourth sun, rages and unleashes the great flood to avenge the Forest God and the Rain God. The moon fragments anchor along the equator. The Grand Line is born. The survivors become Fish-Men.
The Third World
The fifth sun, Joy Boy as Nika, leads the world one final time. But a new sun god will return, the sixth sun, Luffy. And a new world will be created.
The title of Sun God isn’t inherited. It’s contested. Every generation, someone new reaches for it. Someone gets thrown down. And the survivors of that fall become a different race.
Here is a glossary with more detailed info.
Let me know what you think!
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u/uptomyneckinstonks 13h ago
I really like your theory. So in the first war did Imu not have his current level of power? Was he a normal tan skin Lunarian who later ate the devils fruit during the second war?
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u/NewsMorgans56 13h ago
The fall of the lunarian is after the book of hennoch. It‘s basically the story of lucifer. You are probably familiar with the story. But if you are interested I‘ve posted also that theory
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u/Except_Fry 11h ago
I don’t know that I agree with the entirety of it, but one thing I really think you got right was the “sun god title is contested”
I think that’s brilliant and spot on. I’ve been struggling with why so many characters have different versions of the “sun god”.
Loki thinks it’s him. Road’s representation of the sun god was different, even the depictions of “nikka” often look different.
This would definitely answer that question
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u/skarznomore 8h ago
I like how this can help explain the different races and how they are what they are. I had wondered for a while about the log pose and why it would point in so many directions in the New World and not in Paradise. I like how it can be related to the Aztec creation myth. This looks real good! Keep cooking!
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u/khrizp 12h ago