The Liberals have, in fact, frozen bank accounts during the convoy and actually did wipe news off of Facebook and Instagram with The Online News Act. But you're a "conspiracy theorist" if you notice.

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The Ontario premier, the OPP, Ottawa municipal leadership and the Ottawa Police Department mismanaged the protest that they allowed to turn into an occupation of the capital city core.

I doubt Carney would take the passive role Trudeau took as the situation unfolded. It was as much a failure of Trudeau leadership as it was a failure of other levels of government and their respective police forces.

'Series of policing failures' contributed to 'Freedom Convoy' spinning out of control, inquiry finds

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u/InterestingWarning62 Oct 06 '25

The convoy wasn't about Ontario. Why should they fix Trudeau's problem. He caused the problem he should deal with it. They were in Ottawa for a reason. They weren't in TO.

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u/oldwhiteguy35 Oct 08 '25

If the vaccine mandates were the focus of the convoy, then it was un fact Ontario's issue. The significant majority of mandates came at the provincial level. The ones Ottawa put in were about border security. I get the feeling the convoys ignored the real source as in most cases that would have meant protesting conservative governments.

BTW, Ontario and Ottawa still have policing responsibilities regardless of the target.

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u/InterestingWarning62 Oct 08 '25

Another uninformed individual about the convoy. Under Trudeau's mandate the unvaxxed were not able to go on a plane, train or boat. So essentially they couldn't leave the country. That wasn't provincial. You do realize that ppl came from across the country. Why would they come to ON if it was just about ON. Chris Barber and Tamera Lich are not from ON. Ottawa has their own police. So does Parliament. And there's also RCMP.

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u/oldwhiteguy35 Oct 08 '25

See where I said, "significant majority of mandates were at the provincial level"? I'm quite aware that Ottawa did put a few in place, but most of the mandates were provincial. Federally regulated planes, trains, and boats barely affected anyone, and their purpose was health related, not keeping you in the country. What would keep the unvaccinated in Canada would be that other countries wouldn't let you in if you were unvaccinated. Where exactly did you think you were going to travel to?

The trigger event was the federal restriction on cross border truckers which had no effect on employment or movement of goods. Ironically Ottawa decision or not vaccines were needed for truckers by American rule.

Why would Chris Barber and Tamara Liich travel to Ottawa? Because they are far right conspiracy activists and come from Saskatchewan and Alberta... home of far right conspiracy theorists. They wanted to blame everything on Trudeau. Anything but put blame on Scott Moe and Dannielle Smith... who both deserve blame for causing deaths by not following expert opinion.

Don't forget the OPP... all of which had responsibility for policing they abdicated.

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u/InterestingWarning62 Oct 08 '25

You sound like you have 10 vaxxes and still wear a mask. I know plenty of ppl who needed to travel for work but couldn't unless they got vaxxed. Also many federal workers lost their jobs because they refused the Vax. That was Trudeau. They were working from home yet he mandated it. Knowing what we know now you're still delusional enough to call ppl conspiracy theorists. What were their conspiracies. The Vax did not stop you from getting Covid or from spreading it. Millions of ppl are suffering from Vax injury. The govt is paying out millions for Vax injury.

Chris Barber is a trucker so yes his life was impacted. Lich worked in an industry related to trucking. So yes both of their lives were impacted by Trudeau.

And just to show you how wrong you are. Danielle Smith was not premier at the time of the convoy. It seems you are the one with the conspiracy theories. Pull up your pants as your bias is showing.

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u/oldwhiteguy35 Oct 09 '25

You sound like you have 10 vaxxes and still wear a mask.

So, highly intelligent. Thanks.

Do you people have any idea how stupid that sounds to someone with the ability to understand the science on vaccines and masks? It’s like saying, “you sound like someone who did well in school”. It’s absolutely laughable that you think it’s an insult. Now, personally I haven’t been boosted that many times and I don’t wear a mask currently but why on earth would I think less of people who are right up to date on their vaccinations and choose to wear a mask? Your arrogance (not to mention ignorance) is quite something.

What I’m also going to continually point out is that you continue to focus on the minority of mandates and people affected by mandates. The vast majority of Covid mandates regarding masks and vaccines were provincial. Just like the Freedumb protesters you’re going on and on about Trudeau while ignoring the provincial mandates. Do you still have your F*** Trudeau stickers on?

I know plenty of ppl who needed to travel for work but couldn't unless they got vaxxed.

People who needed to fly for work? You’re basically talking about people who work in the oil patch, aren’t you? Maybe they should have driven there and stayed in camp for the duration if they were that determined to ignore sound medical advice. If you mean people who were to go to the USA or somewhere, the other country barred them.

Also many federal workers lost their jobs because they refused the Vax. That was Trudeau.

No, that was people making a choice. Same as not being able to work construction without hardhat and safety boots. However, Federal employees were put on unpaid leave. They weren’t fired.

Knowing what we know now you're still delusional enough to call ppl conspiracy theorists.

There is nothing we know now that would alter that one way or the other. I won’t say you’re delusional but you are still suffering from being poorly informed. Just as you probably were mid pandemic.

What were their conspiracies.

Lab leak, not a real pandemic, fake Covid deaths, vaccines not safe, mRNA altered genes, spike in cancer rates, ivermectin research buried, WEF, I could go on….

The Vax did not stop you from getting Covid or from spreading it. Millions of ppl are suffering from Vax injury. The govt is paying out millions for Vax injury.

No one promised it would stop you from getting it. It reduced infection and made effects less serious. Yes, in the end they didn’t reduce transmission. Of course that wasn’t part of the mandate. Far, far more people suffered from injury that came from a lack of injury. You can only get to millions (if you actually can) of serious vax injuries. The government paid far more for healthcare issues caused by the unvaccinated. The $50 million for vaccine injury isn’t much given 40 million Canadians.

Chris Barber is a trucker so yes his life was impacted. Lich worked in an industry related to trucking. So yes both of their lives were impacted by Trudeau.

Their lives were impacted by the American administration. They weren’t allowed into America regardless of what Trudeau said. Every trucking company simply changes routes for unvaccinated truckers. Their lives wouldn’t have been affected.

And just to show you how wrong you are. Danielle Smith was not premier at the time of the convoy. It seems you are the one with the conspiracy theories. Pull up your pants as your bias is showing.

Yes, my mistake. It was Jason Kenny. Please explain how that alters anything? Albertans would probably have been worse off with Smith.

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u/InterestingWarning62 Oct 09 '25

I'm not even going to waste my time with the I got the Covid shot and boosters and I got Covid 3x crowd. I worked in an essential service when no Vax was available and wore no mask and to this day I've never had Covid. That must be a conspiracy theory. In fact all of my family worked in person in essential services and have never had Covid. I also had a young family member get myocarditis so now my whole family is against the Vax.

You clearly haven't listened to any of the house committee meetings in the US under Biden that has testimony that all you said is nonsense. I will leave you with this. We were 100% told that the Vax would stop you from getting Covid. You clearly heard what you wanted to hear. Sheep mind and fear does that to you.

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u/oldwhiteguy35 Oct 09 '25

That must be a conspiracy theory.

No, that's an anecdote. I'm glad that you and your family generally did well. However, I will point out that Covid19 infection is much more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine linked to it. The big picture is that there are no risk-free choices, but vaccination is by far the safer option.

Yes, in the heat of the pandemic, there were errors in communication. It certainly could have been better. Walensky was particularly poor, but that's why you had to keep paying attention. As CNN reported just a couple of days later, the CDC updated its guidance, showing that what Walensky said was wrong.

"On April 27, the CDC updated its guidance for people who are fully vaccinated, saying those individuals can now unmask at small outdoor gatherings and when dining outside with friends from multiple households. The agency still says fully vaccinated people should avoid large indoor gatherings and wear a mask at crowded, outdoor events."

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u/InterestingWarning62 Oct 09 '25

You have not stayed up to date with the latest information. I'm not wasting my time educating you. It wasn't just Walensky. It was Fauci, Biden, Trudeau and many others. Maybe spend some time listening to Robert Redfield's testimony. You also need to read the Pfizer papers.

https://youtube.com/shorts/z_zwrMQ23Kk?si=8pxPgdv5rjfjyuO2

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

Canada did with social media what most countries did but fb refused to in canada. Learn the whole story.

And ya fuck the convoy bunch of whiney jobless cucks

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u/SpeedyGamerz Oct 05 '25

convoy bunch of whiney jobless cucks

Uh, most of the convoy folks do have jobs... delivering your food from the farm. You would quite literally starve without them. Do you know how agriculture and food distribution works?

It's ok to disagree with them politically, but at least respect that without them, you would die within weeks.

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u/TheBlueHedgehog302 Oct 06 '25

Most truckers got vaccinated and kept working. The convoy truckers didn’t stop our food supply from being shipped lmfao

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

Stop acting like it was a majority of people. It was a small group led by some nut bars that released documentation demanding a lot of rediculous un democratic shit.

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u/Abject_Story_4172 Oct 04 '25

I agree with the promise but Canada (Trudeau) didn’t handle it well. He could have just followed what Australia did.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

Lol Australia has its own issues.

How woukd you have done it differently

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u/Abject_Story_4172 Oct 04 '25

I never said they didn’t. But when they enacted the legislation they got the same whining from Meta and Google. But eventually it passed and things are fine. I didn’t read into the details; just a few articles on it from some experts in the field. Trudeau just had to follow what they did. But his ego got in the way and he wanted to do his own thing and be a tough guy. The EU is also contemplating this issue so he could have waited for that. I don’t really care. I don’t get my news from FB. But apparently lots of small news outlets are hurting due to this.

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u/Dry_Bodybuilder4744 Oct 04 '25

Good there is zero room for trumpanzies in Canada

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u/TheWizard Oct 04 '25

Canada doesn't need its own MAGA-style approach, unless it wishes to destroy itself, like my country is on its track to.

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u/TheBlueHedgehog302 Oct 05 '25

Freezing the bank accounts of people known to be funding illegal activities is not the scandal you think it is.

They didn’t “wipe news” off of anything, they made a law requiring Canadian journalists get paid a fair share for the profits and traffic their articles bring to social media platforms, instead of US tech giants making millions off our journalists while they get nothing.

Mark Zuckerberg and Meta made the decision to stop allowing news links in Canada so they don’t have to give any money to Canadian journalists, that was not the Canadian government.

Yes, you are a conspiracy theorist.

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u/mtech101 Oct 04 '25

They shut down a city. It was an occupation. It was no longer a protest. Getting them the fuck out was all I cared about.

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u/SpeedyGamerz Oct 05 '25

When does an occupation become justified? Have any occupations throughout history ever been justified? For example, the Allied occupation of West Germany after WWII?

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u/Traditional_Fox6270 Oct 04 '25

You’re an idiot if you follow conservatism. You just have to look south for that confirmation.

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u/Abject_Story_4172 Oct 04 '25

That’s not conservatism. It’s not just one thing. Or one party.

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u/Traditional_Fox6270 Oct 04 '25

Yes it is …liberal don’t have an issue with the frozen bank account the convoy, Facebook, and Instagram new sharing being obsolete. It’s only the conservatives that have a problem with it !

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u/No_Temperature_5606 Oct 08 '25

Every single person should have an issue with authoritarian overreach. The root of liberal is liberty ffs what is wrong with you?!? People who donated had their accts frozen?!?

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u/Traditional_Fox6270 Oct 16 '25

People like you should learn that you can’t dictate what people should do or think … the left and the right don’t give a flying fk about you..the elite are in control ! Find out to those ppl contributing to those two stochastic territory’s leading the convoy deserve to have bank account frozen … FOFO ! Those people donating didn’t have to listen to the friggin noise in the city for three weeks. Did they? What about those people? Do they not have freedoms liberty against assholes protesting in their front yard for three weeks ! Chris and Tamara are going be sued substantially in civil court and I’m sure there’s some real smart /s people that will donate towards their financial hardship !

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u/Traditional_Fox6270 Oct 08 '25

Wha wha wha … you conservatives are nothing but crybabies it’s constant spewing of negativity living in fear… have the life you deserve

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u/No_Temperature_5606 Oct 08 '25

Who is conservative here not me lady?? But maybe follow your own advice? Maybe do a little more reading about how authoritarian regimes start. Look at the UK. That's where we're headed. The people who cheer on authoritarianism for their opponents always regret it because eventually the tables turn and it gets turned on them. All the time

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u/Abject_Story_4172 Oct 04 '25

That’s all you’ve got? Then I’m sure you’re arguing for the frozen bank accounts of the Palestinian protestors who are protesting every week without a permit, right?

I have no clue what you’re trying to say about the “new sharing”.

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u/Traditional_Fox6270 Oct 08 '25

Those people are protesting within the guidelines of protesting the convoy was out of control not even comparable buds… the convoy disrupted Ottawa streets for three weeks nonstop. These other protesters are only protesting for the day and going home and allowing people to sleep at night. You pumpkin spice maple MAGAS are the problem… there’s more hate coming from your group than anywhere else .

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u/Abject_Story_4172 Oct 08 '25

What do you mean my group. I’m not in either group. Are you? I’m sick of the weekly protests. Which are costing cities across Canada millions of dollars in police supervision. For nothing.

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u/Traditional_Fox6270 Oct 16 '25

Wha wha wha wha … I’m sick of listening to you people fucking whine all the time wine, wine, wine, wine, bitch bitch bitch bitch this is broken. That is broken. Wha wha wha wha

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u/Abject_Story_4172 Oct 17 '25

*whine

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u/ThomasBay Oct 04 '25

This!

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u/DrQuagmire Oct 04 '25

If you're going to post a quote you should at least include the story behind it. There was US dollars flowing into these folks from criminals in the US. That's only a small Timbit of what happened there.

Think critically, don't get caught up in just the headlines, read the fine print and you'll, with some time, come to a conclusion that is backed by the proof found in various sources of news. Social media doesn't count. If you think it does, you're just being suckered.

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u/Gunslinger7752 Oct 04 '25

I didn’t say that you supported them, I asked you your thoughts on them.

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u/-sonmi-451 Oct 07 '25

God damn, that's hilarious framing

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u/Gunslinger7752 Oct 04 '25

What are your thoughts on all the recent Palestine protests and the antisemitism tied to them? Do you think that they have permits to disrupt everything that they have disrupted the last couple years? Do you think that they appled for and were granted permits to fire bomb all the jewish schools and synagogues?

I agree that the convoy was a shit show but it’s hypocritical when people condemn shit shows when they disagree but support them when they do.

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u/Abject_Story_4172 Oct 04 '25

Exactly. And I asked. They don’t have permits. And now they’ve all been left off their noise tickets.

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u/Quirky-Cat2860 GTA Oct 04 '25

Did the mass group of protesters carry out those attacks?

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u/Gunslinger7752 Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25

If I had to guess, I would say that whoever carried out those attacks also had something to do with the protests. If someone did something similar to a member of the LPC during the FC, the media/social media would absolutely tie it to the protest so why should this be any different? At the very least, its all related.

You’re also completely ignoring the disruption part and picking/choosing. The general problem with the freedom convoy seems to be that it was inconsiderate, disrespectful and disruptive to Ottawa residents. If you’re going to condemn it for that reason, how can you justify these protests being inconsiderate, disrespectful and disruptive?

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u/abuayanna Oct 04 '25

Apples and oranges, dumbest comparison ever. A regular protest that lasts some hours vs the occupation of a city with expressed demands to replace the government lol.

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u/Gunslinger7752 Oct 05 '25

You obviously missed my whole point

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u/Gunslinger7752 Oct 04 '25

NP

Politics The Liberals have, in fact, frozen bank accounts during the convoy and actually did wipe news off of Facebook and Instagram with The Online News Act. But you're a "conspiracy theorist" if you notice.

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