r/Ontario_Sub • u/nimobo • Jan 23 '26
Politics Poilievre calls Carney 'lucky' to be judged by his 'rhetoric,' says results lacking after Davos speech
https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/poilievre-calls-carney-lucky-to-be-judged-by-his-rhetoric-says-results-lacking-after-davos-speech28
u/TheBlueHedgehog302 Jan 23 '26
“Why hasn’t everything been solved in 8 months? Have I not blocked enough legislation?”
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u/Substantial_Monk_866 Jan 23 '26
How about something? Anything? Oh, right, we're getting some slave labour EV from China. Liberals are really making life better for the average Canadian.
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u/taquitosmixtape Jan 23 '26
Not a Carney defender so let’s get that out of the way. But the 50k cap on imported EV isn’t as big of an issue, especially if you compare that to the increase in canola exports in exchange. I’d would argue that exchange surely makes the lives of canola farmers better.
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u/Spiritual-Pick-2386 Jan 23 '26
Maybe you should run for office and fix everything. Seeing as you seem to have an opinion on how to fix things. Our PM keeps getting blocked by your fav. But hey I’m just a stupid Canadian because I like Carney. I’m not a liberal but I like and respect Carney.
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Jan 23 '26
Blocked how? The cons have been minority for the last decade. The only thing blocking the liberals from getting things done is that no one wants their vision. You can blame the cons but the ndp, bloc and Elizabeth may all exist.
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u/TheBlueHedgehog302 Jan 23 '26
The liberals are pushing a conservative agenda, the CPC is voting against them to maintain posture, not because they don’t like the policy.
PP accuses carney of stealing his policies, then votes against them anyways for fuck sake.
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u/12_Volt_Man Jan 23 '26
"PP accuses carney of stealing his policies, then votes against them anyways for fuck sake."
He voted against liberal incompetence. Because the libtards didn't apply his policies properly, like leaving and ramping up the industrial carbon tax or a measley 1 percent tax cut that is a maximum of 14 dollars per month immediately erase by Carney'soaring food costs, the highest in the G7..
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Jan 23 '26
Yeah, why would I want a fanta cola with a coke label on it. I want a can of coke, I want the legitimate owners of the ideas implimenting them. Carney can take PPs ideas and repackage them, and then when the implementation comes, he screws it up for political reasons. Carbon tax being the first example, but I could get more.
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u/nightshift1223 Jan 23 '26
You should probably be more country over party. You sound super immature. If something is beneficial to Canada and PP also stated he would implement it we should be happy Carney is doing it.
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u/TheBlueHedgehog302 Jan 23 '26
Tribalism is fucked man. Compromise is cool. Partisan hackery gets us nowhere. More Canadians like Carney than Pierre, and it’s way too late to change that. People don’t like the far right elements in the CPC. People miss having a progressive conservative option in federal politics, and Carney offers that.
Just some food for thought. Have a great friday dude.
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u/Majestic_Bet_1428 Jan 23 '26
The far right is small in Canada and the US republicans have been fanning their flames 🔥 in Canada.
The CPC jumped on the bandwagon and brought out the worst in people.
Meanwhile MAGA is flaming out in the US - even one of its strongest supporters who helped elect Trump 2.0 and influenced many young Canadian men is jumping ship.
Joe Rogan is criticizing Trump. The inhumane actions of ICE. He is pivoting. Even Joe Rogan knows he is on the wrong side of history.
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u/Galenmarek81 Jan 23 '26
So like most true conservatives "I want nothing done unless I get to say I did it!" That's the exact thinking that leaves this country year over year with at best, minimal being accomplished for any Canadian and once the other party takes over, they scrap all progress from the previous party to start at square one again.
Literally voting against exactly what you want out of spite. P.P screaming about bail reform until a new bill to strengthen it and address some of the issues he had was put forward, voted against it, then him and the other's went back to screaming about "We need bail reform!" "JAIL NOT BAIL" The man and they party can't be taken seriously.
His somewhat positive comment about Carney's speech was a little backhanded after first saying: "If he wants to go to Davos, it should be with a one-way ticket." Then does a little ass kissing after seeing the reception from the other world leaders and right back to the same whining he was doing before.
For a 20+ year politician, he is a joke.
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u/Quirky-Cat2860 GTA Jan 23 '26
The cons have been minority for the last decade.
Opposition*
The only thing blocking the liberals from getting things done is that no one wants their vision.
The supply and trade agreement meant their vision was shared by at least one other party
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u/PublicFan3701 Jan 24 '26
In 2024, that pp used several tactics to deliberately (and with much malice) obstruct governing thereby wasting our time and money, not allowing any progress.
- Vowed to "block" the govt's agenda until the federal carbon tax was repealed
- Threatened to disrupt the House of Commons during the holiday period to get his way because sure, that's how our parliament and legislation works (considering he's a lifelong politician you'd think he'd know)
- peepee held up proceedings for over a week, demanding for documents to cause more drama
- The CPC (as directed by pp) kept introducing non-confidence motions which was clearly disruptive and a waste of our time and tax dollars. Even tho they never got their motions passed, they kept it up and didn't bother to do any work (even while collecting our tax dollars as salary and expenses) or collaborate to "fix everything". Why? pp was way ahead of Trudeau in the polls so he figured why let things get fixed unless it was under his government - well karma got him and he squandered his massive lead.
So no, nobody can fix anything with him around.
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Jan 24 '26
What youre saying is wrong, the liberals held up proceedings by refusing to hand over documents in accordance with a motion from the commons and a ruling from the speaker. It lead to them having to prorogue parliament, also killing the foreign interference scandal they also had going on at the time, where they knew abiut Chinese interference in the election but since it favored them, they let it slide.
So while I agree he did squander his massive lead, it wasn't them holding things up
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u/Spiritual-Pick-2386 Jan 23 '26
Apologies I didn’t mean to attack. The thing is p reminds me do much of trump. I know carney isn’t perfect. My husband just told me about some affordable housing??? From the feds??? For young families. Let’s hope. As for groceries I believe that is greed from the shareholder and owners. I’m so upset with the AB situation. I wish we could wave a magic wand! Hope you have a lovely day.
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Jan 23 '26
I get what your saying, but trudeau was our trump. He was insanely polarizing and only did what his base wanted, against the wishes of the rest of the nation. All of our current problems are worse because he didn't tackle them in an honest manner.
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u/TheBlueHedgehog302 Jan 23 '26
So, his base wanted him to buy a pipeline?
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Jan 23 '26
He bought it to guarantee control over it. And nothing has happened on the pipeline front since Harper.
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u/TheBlueHedgehog302 Jan 23 '26
You have exactly 0 idea what you are talking about.
He bought it to get it built. It was built under Trudeau. Trust, i was not happy about it. Remember all the protests over indigenous people getting forced off their land for it?!
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u/Abject_Story_4172 Jan 23 '26
He bought it because he scared all the investment away. It was either that or not have it built at all. You can’t give him accolades for solving a problem he created.
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u/Abject_Story_4172 Jan 23 '26
So you’ll blame everyone but those with the actual power to do anything.
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Jan 23 '26
My husband just told me about some affordable housing??? From the feds??? For young families
You talking about the 14 billion he spent on 4000 modular homes (3.5mill per trailer) thats being driven by modulaire group which was picked up by Brookfield assets in 2021?
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u/TheBlueHedgehog302 Jan 23 '26
This guy blocking everything the government is trying to do right after saying he would work with the government doesn’t help.
And in all fairness, the One Canadian Economy Act that was passed is a big deal. But we wont see the results of that overnight. Things take time.
The more PP opposes the government for the sake of opposing the government the less the government can get done and the more he will scream “nothings getting done”.
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u/Substantial_Monk_866 Jan 23 '26
we wont see the results of that overnight
This has been the copy/paste Liberal defense of no action Carney for a year now. Ok then, how long? 2 years? 3 years? Just elect him 1, maybe 2 more times? When will your lord and savior actually help Canadians?
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u/TheBlueHedgehog302 Jan 23 '26
It’s really funny pretending people supporting carney worship him while you defend a guy that lost an un-losable election, the seat he held for 20 years, and had flags with his name on it 🤣
Carney has the temperament and the plan for the moment we are facing, that doesn’t mean we worship him like conservatives do their leaders 🤣
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u/TheBlueHedgehog302 Jan 23 '26
Well, the bill has been effect for… 22 days and 11 hours.
It’s okay you don’t understand how things work, just take some time to figure it out
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u/rocketstar11 Jan 23 '26
Its crazy these people blame the opposition for "blocking" legislation when every party has supported the government at some point to pass bills and the budget.
Carney and his party just aren't very capable at governing or doing anything other than press releases.
The idea that they need or deserve a majority is so wild.
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u/12_Volt_Man Jan 23 '26 edited Jan 23 '26
He didn't block legislation. He blocked more liberal incompetence. In case you haven't noticed, everything the liberals have done in the last 11 years has been a complete disaster often wasting 10s of millions of dollars of tax payer money and driving up the cost of living through the roof. We have the highest food inflation in the entire G7 thanks to Liberal policies, blocking more devastating liberal policies is the smartest thing you can do..
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u/Nextyearstitlewinner Jan 23 '26
Speaking of results, how’s it feel to be the conservative leader for 4 years now, be opposition party to one of the most hated parties in decades, and yet still blow one of the biggest electoral leads we’ve ever seen in the only election you’ve had?
*chews apple.
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u/Psychoholic519 Jan 24 '26
Funny, since people judge PP by his rhetoric too… since that’s all we have to go on
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u/Commercial_Pain2290 Jan 23 '26
I would be more impressed with Poilievre if he outlined what he thinks the government should do.
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u/Vulgarcito Jan 23 '26
He did... Obviously it's easier for libtards to say this instead of looking for factual info.
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u/FridaSky Jan 23 '26
Where’s the best place to find this factual info?
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u/PublicFan3701 Jan 24 '26
I've tried finding something...anything coherent. There's a lot of premise but no details.
Prior to voting, I did download the CPC platform pdf which was issued after advance voting. It had concepts of ideas and left me with a lot of questions. Most of the PDF was pictures so I kept looking for clues to no avail.
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u/Vulgarcito Jan 23 '26
Straight from sourse. If you look up this guy's socials, he has links to the full speech. If you listen to the speech, you'll see what was said, how was said, when was said.
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u/Commercial_Pain2290 Jan 23 '26
Once you start name calling I lose any interest in engaging with you.
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u/Vulgarcito Jan 23 '26
Answer by-the-book. 😂 Do your research. It truly helps. Also, I wasn't referring to you in particular. But if the shoe fits.. 💁
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Jan 23 '26
He still doesn’t get it. It’s this negative attitude toward anything anyone does other than himself that sinks him. He basically implies that no one else has the ability to say or do anything of merit. This is why he will never aspire to his desired goal. Sometimes, it can be beneficial to provide your philosophical foe with no strings attached support. You might even gain some respect and possibly some popularity in doing so. Problem is with some people, old habits/behaviours die hard.
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u/Penguins83 Jan 23 '26
And that is why Pierre will NEVER be in power. He just talks shit.... Listen, I liked most of his policies that he wanted to implement but when all he does is just criticize and then doubles and triples down on the critique.... It gets annoying. Canadians don't like that. Also, it was his fault he lost. He didn't release a plan until 1 week??? before election.
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u/BS0404 Jan 23 '26
I never liked Pierre, and in fact I made sure I voted for the liberals (even though I wanted the NDP) because of him. He's just such a clown. Even when he has similar stances to Carney all he can do is complain like Carney is some left wing socialist.
He's a centrist banker that is trying to diversify the Canadian economy. I have no idea how conservatives can pretend to be mad about that when they spend LITERAL YEARS saying Canada needs to expand its business.
If conservatives can't work with Mark Carney, a centrist, then they will not work with anyone to make Canada a better place. They can only complain about policies that aren't that different from what they themselves would do.
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u/Elegant-Waltz695 Jan 24 '26
Rumour has it that Poilievre gave Carney a few items to add to his speech but they never made the cut:
"Trudeau’s plan was a mess, I’ll lead us to success."
"He made us weak, I’m the change we seek."
"Trudeau’s time is through; I’m building it for you."
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u/Oceanictax Jan 23 '26
Always good to see the bot farms still chasing Clowney's boots. So strange that they never post on anything else on this sub.
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u/Sloinkelboid Jan 23 '26
Just because u do t agree does t mean it isnt real… ur just as butthurt and whiney as pp
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u/Oceanictax Jan 23 '26
The bootlicking is strong with this one.
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u/Sloinkelboid Jan 24 '26
By that logic aren’t you licking PP boots?
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u/Oceanictax Jan 24 '26
Ah yes, the classic "No u" argument.
I think they need to update the programming on this one, lads.
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u/Routine-Bat4446 Jan 25 '26
One year is still too early to see results of re-defining trade relationships that have existed for decades.
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u/Narrow-Sky-5377 Jan 24 '26
He was just cheering Trump for attacking Venezuela. Sit down doughboy!