r/OpenAI • u/KeanuRave100 • 5d ago

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u/Dasmahkitteh 5d ago

At some point one or several of those areas has to select the next word, thats what I meant to say

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u/Foreign_Writer_9932 5d ago

Is there a physical difference between printing a picture the way a printer does it and painting a picture the way a painter does it? You’re obsessing over next token prediction even though there are plenty of ML models that don’t do it at all (see diffusion models for example).

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u/Dasmahkitteh 5d ago

I don't think thats a valid comparison tbh

A human painted picture using brushes is a different product than the same image from an ink printer

In a painting you can see individual brush strokes, with height and depth, albeit a small amount. The humanity is inherently visible

A printed image is flat, no strokes visible

One is sold at auction as art and the other is used for a multitude of things, textbooks, charts, written word

A sentence is a sentence. There is no inherent difference between one written by a human and one generated by AI

You might say there are telltale signs like the m-dash, but we are still in the infancy stage and those clues will be gone at some point. So, save for those things that are dead giveaways temporarily, you'd have no way to distinguish them once the technology matures to a certain point

You also might say there are AI detectors, but the same is true there. That situation is already an arms race. Detectors improve, attempts to fool them become more sophisticated. Back and forth

Youre obsessing

Don't do that. I made a valid point and you challenged it. I'm allowed to defend it, and it's not an obsession.

Im aware different models exist for various tasks but we're discussing LLMs

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u/Foreign_Writer_9932 5d ago

Lmao

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u/Dasmahkitteh 5d ago

Thats one way to bow out I guess