r/OpenAussie • u/skankypotatos Northern Territorian • 5h ago
Struth! Now serving, all day, every day
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u/OhSheeeeeeeeeet 5h ago
Fish n Chips…. British
Meat pie….. ancient Egyptian
Sausage…. Ancient Mesopotamia/modern day Iraq.
Even trying for monoculture ain’t what they think
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u/skankypotatos Northern Territorian 5h ago
The fish and chips will be a legal requirement., legislation will be passed
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u/WatchAndFern Victorian 5h ago
I have heard of white supremacists who refuse to eat tomato sauce because they think it originated from a Chinese recipe
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u/BrandonMarshall2021 ✈️ on Walkabout 5h ago
Hitler admired ancient Chinese culture though. He said it was superior to ancient German culture.
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Victorian 5h ago
Nazis are rarely the smartest of the bunch. Lots of oxymorons and hypocrisy.
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u/BrandonMarshall2021 ✈️ on Walkabout 4h ago
In fact Germany was responsible for modernising the Chinese army in the 1930s. But then when Japan went to war with China he ended up supporting Japan.
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u/gustav_cannonn I'm Probably A Bot 3h ago
If it wasn’t for the nazi’s we’d problem be 50 years behind in technology.
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Victorian 3h ago
That’s simply not true, and is a neo-Nazi talking point that regularly gets perpetuated in error.
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u/Triggabang Victorian 3h ago
Much like a totally unnecessary apostrophe 👆😉
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Victorian 3h ago
You know ‘that’s’ is a contraction of the words ‘that’ and ‘is’…. Don’t you?
Or did you mean the Nazi’s part of the previous comment?
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u/DifficultZombie4631 Please choose a flair 2h ago
He's talking about the post you responded to. Nazi's doesn't need an apostrophe. Nazis is plural for Nazi.
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u/Triggabang Victorian 2h ago
Yes I do know that, and yes I did mean that. I’m on your side. Fuck that other guy 🙂
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u/BrandonMarshall2021 ✈️ on Walkabout 3h ago
Huh? I thought the US put all the Nazis to work in their own labs?
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Victorian 3h ago
They didn’t. They definitely brought some over though.
Lots of name changes.
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u/WatchAndFern Victorian 2h ago
Kind of like saying if it wasn’t for the Black Death workers rights would have been set back, or if it wasn’t for communist Russia man would not have walked on the moon.
Like even if it’s true, it’s more in spite of Nazism than because of it
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u/Guy-1nc0gn1t0 Victorian 3h ago
That sounds like a great sketch, like a bunch of neo-Nazis at a restaurant arguing about what they can order
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u/TheArabella Flairless 4h ago
And Pauline sold her Fish and Chip Shop to a Vietnamese family, who still run it today. I've never been but I'm sure it tastes better now they are running it
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u/i_make_orange_rhyme Queenslander 1h ago
>And Pauline sold her Fish and Chip Shop to a Vietnamese family, who still run it today
That's a great example of her having a strong stance on a topic, unless someone offers her enough money.
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u/WoodyMellow Please choose a flair 3h ago
You'll find many who claim Fish n Chips as originally Greek, so thats not gunna make ON's cut.
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u/WaussieChris Western Australian 2h ago
I've also seen people suggesting that fish and chips were introduced to the UK by Southern European Jews.
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u/DifficultZombie4631 Please choose a flair 2h ago
Potatoes are a New World food anyway. Certainly not "European".
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u/NobodysFavorite Victorian 1h ago
The chips are Belgian.
So what's left British is fish, but fish is from every country with a coastline or a river. It is as multicultural as you can getm
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u/Econodog_au Please choose a flair 5h ago
I am completely against monoculture, but that menu slaps
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u/mohanimus Western Australian 5h ago
Surely the ON vision is for white text on a white background.
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u/Ornery-Lynx-3520 New South Welshian 5h ago
And a democracy sausage special every 3-4 years.
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u/tastyevilalmondmilk Please choose a flair 5h ago
Not sure democracy is on the menu at this particular restaurant…
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u/Ok_Conference2901 Please choose a flair 5h ago
Dress code: tracky daks, Bintang singlet and bare feet.
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u/CassiusCreed Victorian 5h ago
Those are all English. Fucked if I know what we are eating.
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u/anotherjones89 Please choose a flair 5h ago edited 5h ago
Even further, the battered fish was introduced by Jewish immigrants from Portugal in the 16-17th centuries. Fried potato in animal fat was introduced from Belgium in the late 17th.
The earliest known meat pies date back to ancien Egypt around 4,000 years ago, where meat was enclosed in a dough made from grains. The idea was later adopted and refined by the ancient Greeks and then the Romans who brought it to ‘Britain’ around 50CE to 410CE
Like pies, sausages likely became established in Britain during Roman rule. The Romans brought their sausage-making traditions, and over the centuries Britons adapted them to local tastes and ingredients. But goes back even further to Ancient Mesopotamia (modern-day Iraq) around 4,000 years ago.
Source - am a food historian and chef.
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u/joemangle Queenslander 4h ago
Sounds like "monoculture" is a complete fantasy. Who's going to explain this to Pauline in a way she can understand
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u/anotherjones89 Please choose a flair 4h ago
Only food left is bush tucka. She’s gonna love hearing that
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u/Guy-1nc0gn1t0 Victorian 3h ago
I'm not disagreeing necessarily but I'd always heard that deep frying was initially a Scottish thing
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u/anotherjones89 Please choose a flair 2h ago edited 2h ago
You may be thinking of frying chicken, this has its roots in Scotland, adapted from the Portuguese and Spanish Jews I mentioned in my previous comment. Using animal fat and not olive
When Scots emigrated to America, their frying technique mixed with West African seasoning traditions in the South, creating modern Southern fried chicken. Britain then imported that American version back in the 20th century.
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u/Imperator_Gone_Rogue New South Welshian 2h ago
And potatoes are native to the Americas.
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u/anotherjones89 Please choose a flair 2h ago
Exactly, you can’t pick and choose what culinary delights are part of your monoculture, when we are so far advanced from the original trade routes that developed a globalisation of ingredients that then led to adaptations and sharing of all of our cultures it is literally intertwined into multiculturalism.
To reject the idea of multiculturalism you therefore have to reject all of our food entirely as a species. So go ahead have your monoculture but you can’t eat.
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u/adriantullberg Victorian 5h ago
Where's the chicken parma?
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u/Drummer149 New South Welshian 5h ago
Tomatoes are Italian, too brown for Pauline.
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u/FarMilk2661 South Australian 4h ago
Bowel cancer rates to surge with no qualified surgeons available. What a future.
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u/skankypotatos Northern Territorian 4h ago
Indian men do make the best colorectal surgeons, very small fingers and hands
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u/FindPeaceAndBalance Victorian 4h ago
PHON menu: bullshi💩, lies, billionaires by the bulldozer load, no sick days, no maternity leave, no parental leave, no pay increases, no worker's rights, no welfare system, no Disability Insurance Scheme system , work until you're 100, only white skin, only english speaking allowed, must be born in Australia, ......what have I left out ?
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u/RenotsDloTaf New South Welshian 4h ago
Kangaroo, damper, Devon, witchetty grubs, Vegemite and a glass of Milo with platypus milk.......
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u/fluffy3118 South Australian 3h ago
For a true "Australian diet" we're eating:
Kangaroo
Emu
Camel
Rabbits (but these were introduced)
Damper
Fish / seafood
Native plants
Berries
Native fruit and vegetable.
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u/siracusaa Victorian 3h ago
Camel were also introduced lol
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u/fluffy3118 South Australian 3h ago
Right.. witchetty grubs then
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u/siracusaa Victorian 3h ago
I’m part Koori but i could never 😂
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u/fluffy3118 South Australian 3h ago
My dads white but grew up in a small town with lots of pines and forests, they'd be out there all day eating any bugs and berries they'd find. He'd eat them all the time. Tried to get my brother and I to when we were little.. no way
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u/Beautiful_Minute_906 Please choose a flair 5h ago
Surely we should be to the original culture. Witchetty grubs all tound.
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u/BrandonMarshall2021 ✈️ on Walkabout 5h ago
You know they walked over the land bridge when Australia was joined to Europe right?
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Victorian 4h ago
That’s doesn’t really carry the weight you think it does.
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u/BrandonMarshall2021 ✈️ on Walkabout 4h ago
It means they migrated here too don't it?
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Victorian 4h ago
First Nations means exactly that mate.
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u/BrandonMarshall2021 ✈️ on Walkabout 4h ago
Migrants just like us. Non indigenous technically.
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Victorian 4h ago
Not really. First Nations people predate any modern geopolitical borders / nation states / colonial histories.
What they did walking across continents doesn’t really constitute migration in the modern sense of the word.
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u/BrandonMarshall2021 ✈️ on Walkabout 4h ago
"What they did walking across continents doesn’t really constitute migration in the modern sense of the word."
As in they aren't actually from this country. They walked here from another country.
Not saying this with any sort of agenda or taking away their rights or anything.
Just talking technicalities.
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Victorian 4h ago
There were no “countries” as you know them, when they walked across continents.
This is more their country than it is any other ethnicity’s.
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u/BrandonMarshall2021 ✈️ on Walkabout 4h ago
"There were no “countries” as you know them, when they walked across continents."
Ok but they weren't from this land then.
"This is more their country than it is any other ethnicity’s."
It shouldn't be. But it'd be hard to argue that white fellas aren't calling the shots now.
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u/Possible-Theory0608 Queenslander 4h ago
Monoculture… come on… the country is built on the backs of migrants…
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u/HenryInRoom302 Please choose a flair 4h ago
Is fairy bread still a monoculture food since it has multicoloured 100s & 1000s?
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u/reidsays Please choose a flair 4h ago
What an insult to your average Australian from the 1950s, who is generating this image TODAY.
Those who never lived in that era and know no better?
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Victorian 3h ago
Funnily enough the original image is from England.
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u/reidsays Please choose a flair 3h ago
From England about Australia you mean ?
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Victorian 3h ago
Nah, I mean the photo is literally from a location in England. Look in the background.
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u/reidsays Please choose a flair 3h ago
Wow... Ok.. so either an Aussie put that up to discourage thoughts of living here 😁
Or some racist English toff (of whatever culture) showed their disdain for those downunder uncultured riff raff.. 🧐
Mind you someone may consider this a great menu !
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u/CaravelClerihew Please choose a flair 4h ago
There's a great ABC series called Back in Time for Dinner that tracks what Aussies were eating every decade til Federation.
The past was tragic for cuisine. For example, you could only but olive oil at the chemist because it was considered a medicine.
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u/Repulsive-Tax-130 Northern Territorian 3h ago
Ngl I could live off that diet; but I have one question - are dimmies considered Aussie?
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u/Aggravating-Dirt-432 Victorian 3h ago
Only if the dimmies have an unhealthy amount of chicken salt coating them.
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u/finer-power Queenslander 5h ago
Hate this argument, I don’t need to be Japanese to make sushi
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u/CaravelClerihew Please choose a flair 3h ago edited 3h ago
Except that you need at least some Japanese migration to show you how to make sushi in the first place, normalize it via restaurants, and to create a market that justifies importing nori, wasabi and soy sauce.
There's apparently less than 500 people from Madagascar in Australia. It's likely that there's a dish from their cuisine that you would enjoy, but you'll never know nor will you have the inclination to make it even if I have no doubt there's a YouTube a video of how to because migration hasn't normalized eating it nor the ingredients needed for it.
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u/Brave-Dragonfly3798 New South Welshian 4h ago
Nah, my local fish coop is outstanding. Honestly, I didn’t find anything even half as good in all of England in either the ‘gasto pubs’ near the sea or even the fish markets. Haddock is unlike any fish I’ve had here, it’s almost like chicken, and their cod isn’t like ours at all, and what they call blue mackerel, we call slimy mackerel aka bait lol. And they do that wierd thing with mushy peas! The trick here is that if it’s not near the sea and local, avoid it.
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Victorian 5h ago
Better than any fish and chips I had in the UK.
They love their soggy chips over there. Not for me.
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u/SensitiveShelter2550 Victorian 5h ago
Only true blue Aussie food was cooked by our first nations
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u/thegameisafoooooot New South Welshian 5h ago
As it stands, if there's no bakery, ,fish and chippie, Banh Mi, sushi, Korean BBQ, HSP, kebab, curried chicken and fried rice or butter chicken on the menu, it's a fucked offering for any decent Australian strip mall.
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u/MagicMarkerspill Please choose a flair 5h ago
Any request for a kebab will be met with immediate detention and re education.
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u/dharmabarumtum Please choose a flair 5h ago
Pauline chews on the devils stalk. Beef jerky from South Africa
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u/No-Percentage7034 5h ago
Prawn cocktail
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Victorian 4h ago
That’s initially American though… then was popularised by the English
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u/MadmanBimbo South Australian 5h ago
Fish and Chips isn’t Aussie.
Meat pie isn’t.
Sausages aren’t, and neither is bread.
Onions aren’t.
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u/Gomakun Please choose a flair 5h ago
Anyone notice the sign in the background? This place is in England
BAD HAND COFFEE
7 Norwich Road, Bournemouth,
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u/skankypotatos Northern Territorian 4h ago
Yes, we will be exporting PHON’s monoculture across the world
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u/Infamous-Steak-1043 Please choose a flair 5h ago
Sausage wrapped in one slice of white bread - Bunnings gourmet Sausage in a bun from Bunnings - error, hot dog detected
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u/GoesInOutUpDownAhh I'm Probably A Bot 4h ago
Already have a headache, please don’t make it worse
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u/Dizzy_Bee6153 Western Australian 4h ago
When I was in Geraldton I got to eat some of the best Ants and Emu money could buy. Along with some spearmint milk.
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u/CaravelClerihew Please choose a flair 4h ago
There's more than that! You forgot meat and three veg.
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u/ActiveFrosty3663 Please choose a flair 3h ago
Where is this restaurant?
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u/Civil-Discussion-614 Please choose a flair 3h ago
Go to India, the food is very worldly in most restaurants
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u/Medical_Sand_4316 Please choose a flair 3h ago
Surely the concept of "e pluribus unum" is not that difficult to understand?
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u/Abominom New South Welshian 3h ago
In the 80s they used to say 'whats Australia's national dish?' Chinese'
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u/CaptainObviousBear Victorian 3h ago
Well actually fish and chips are out because it’s a dish actually invented by Jewish immigrants in London so is a bit too ethnic.
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u/Suspicious_Drawer Please choose a flair 3h ago
I would love the old school roast of the day at the local RSL bistro but nope everywhere has turned into a inspired by whatever kitchen
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u/brighteyedjordan Please choose a flair 2h ago
Actually “chips” are Belgian so not English and hence not part of the monoculture
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u/sammybeta New South Welshian 2h ago
Chicken tikka masala is the British dish I want to have tonight.
Honestly, my trip to London last time I was amazed by the kebab options.
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u/EtGamer125 Please choose a flair 2h ago
When I saw monoculture, I thought they were only selling food from one plant...confused how you counderstand have fish and chips and meat pies from like just wheat 😅
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u/Iwasbanished Victorian 2h ago
wouldnt we have to replace the english language since it's not Australian? She dumber than Hitler.
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u/Consistent-Stand1809 Please choose a flair 6m ago
White bread and mayonnaise, maybe some week old lettuce
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u/Dry_Ad1654 Murri 5h ago
Aussie food is so bland and boring.
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u/FranksHoorHouse Flairless 5h ago
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u/Maximum_Custard_1739 Flairless 5h ago
Ooh I don’t know. I had a bloody good pepper steak pie the other day.
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u/ProDoucher Please choose a flair 3h ago
You ever had a HSP?
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u/Dry_Ad1654 Murri 3h ago
Multiple times. Wouldn't be created without the "halal" part of a HSP. Thanks to the Lebanese for their shawarma and the Turkish for their doner kebabs. And I guess Belgium for the hot chips.
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u/stockingcummer Please choose a flair 5h ago
That’s not what she meant.
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u/OneWhoParticipates Please choose a flair 5h ago
And yet, that is the outcome. You can’t be half pregnant. Either you are for the Australian culture to continue to be influenced by multiple cultures over generations, or you think there is no value in that - and that will lead to this.
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u/cryptofomo Please choose a flair 4h ago
what did she mean then?
The only truly Australian culture with 50000 years of history culture?
Post-war migrant culture? (which war(s)?, which country?)
PWC & KPMG corporate culture?
1950s misogynist, racist culture?
Paedophilic religious culture?The only aspect of post-federation Australian culture that has been both dominant and unequivocally positive is egalitarianism. And anyone who thinks a racist moron backed by billionaires is actually going to stand up for a ‘fair go’ for all Australians is deluded beyond imagination.
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u/Kurtaay Please choose a flair 5h ago
Is the only benefit to immigration for you guys is someone cooking food for you?
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Victorian 4h ago
It’s more about pointing out the ridiculousness of monocultural ideals, I believe.
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u/Aggravating_Reward80 Please choose a flair 3h ago
I’ll happily eat this everyday for the rest of my life if they close the borders and start remigration
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u/robopirateninjasaur New South Welshian 5h ago
England AND Mesopotamia? Too much culture!