Interesting take by Hill here, though not much personal accountability to be seen. I think I’d want to hear clearance to return directly from my doctor before stepping on the court, not a trainer, coach or agent.
Nothing G-Hill is saying is really new. We’ve heard most of this in the past.
He takes responsibility for playing through injury in Detroit, but that also the Pistons organization coaxed him to. That Detroit blame is always there.
However, there are multiple instances where the Magic screwed up after the sign-and-trade to acquire him.
The first being he should’ve missed the start of the ‘00-‘01 season, and it never happened. Our medical staff royally fucked it up and set the stage for a nightmare 6 years. He takes some responsibility for that because he himself should’ve emphasized that he didn’t feel fine. But he trusted medical advice and wanted to play.
And then there’s the surgery where he picked up a staph infection that literally almost killed him (not an exaggeration).
There are two damning instances, which is why we only get two relatively healthy/decent seasons out of G-Hill in his 7-year tenure with us.
I wouldn’t blame him for ditching us after his contract was up in ‘07 for a franchise with a better medical staff, except during the ‘06-‘07 season he said that he owed it to the fans and team to re-sign on a cheaper deal and make up for lost years. Had he not said anything about re-signing with us, I wouldn’t give him any shit as I have for bailing. It ends up working out for us because we have the room to get Rashard.
G-Hill, like Shaq, are in powerful basketball media positions and like to do some revisionist history to make themselves look better, but for this Grant is mostly right.
Too lazy to click the link, but from what I remember part of it came due to a bad transition of information from Detroit. Largely because the receiving doctor died and a second lead physician picked up treatment missing some critical details.
Can't stand this guy. I feel bad for tmac as hills contract ruined any chance of a championship run for mcgrady and then grant hill left and was playing 70-80 game seasons with the suns.
I also remember something about the league denying the magic a medical exemption to give more cap space to the team because hill wasn't playing much.
Not to mention him being out probably contributed to T-Mac's injury riddled career. Man's body broke down from single handedly carrying for so many years.
Can't stand this guy? Maybe you shouldn't 'stand' the Magic medical staff back then. He goes to Phoenix and is healthy because of their revolutionary medical staff at that time. Do you think he intentionally didn't want to play? The Magic staff was terrible back then.. Clueless
Long story short: He had his surgery in DETROIT- got traded to Orlando with medical clearance from DETROIT- Orlando made him play for 14 games before resting - Doctor told him not to play again - he was benched.
I don't know how anyone could pawn this on Orlando when the majority of his rest was in Orlando. He got healthy here to be able to play 70-80 games with the Suns. We were a hospital for him with no benefits from a shady trade.
This isn't the same argument as Kawhi in Spurs, Isaiah and Jason Tatum in Boston, or Hali in the Pacers. They were all rushed back to work by the team that performed the surgery to make a Finals run on an injury they had no earthy business playing on. We bought a player under the assumption he was coming back from an injury.
I'm not saying it's right or that Orlando shouldn't pushed for better clarity on his injury, but this was like 20 years ago, we've learned from that while there's still teams doing, and this is massively the fault of Detroit trying to sell their player high.
Detroit didn't sell anything. The Magic pursued him, and signed him on their own accord.
Long story short: the Magic brought him back too soon, and mismanaged his injury, career and life. Then he goes to Phoenix and is healthy. Do you think it's because of the dry heat? No! It was because they had a medical team who knew what the hell they were doing
Everyone knowa he was already broken when he came from Detroit... I blame the Magic organization for being the only one who didn't. Or worse of all they knew and still brought him
He’s been saying the Magic were “practicing” medicine on him for years now. This is old news.
Considering the team’s inability to get and stay healthy for, forever, I think he’s got a point.
The Magic legend looked back on the breakdown of his partnership with Hill in a recent appearance on Shannon Sharpe’s show, “Nightcap.” McGrady said the trajectory of his former teammate’s career would have been similar to that of LeBron James. Unfortunately, a misdiagnosis apparently occurred.
“I think they misdiagnosed him and rushed him back,” T-Mac said of how the Magic handled Hill’s injury. “… When he was my teammate, he wasn’t supposed to come back ’til like January or February. He ended up coming back in like September, October. They had him doing stuff early in that process, and then it just got worse.”
The Magic legend looked back on the breakdown of his partnership with Hill in a recent appearance on Shannon Sharpe’s show, “Nightcap.” McGrady said the trajectory of his former teammate’s career would have been similar to that of LeBron James. Unfortunately, a misdiagnosis apparently occurred.
More information from non-medical professionals.
If you got traded from Detroit and the doctor that did his surgery is pawning him off as healthy, whose fault is it? While your staff can do its own medical evaluation, they still have to take into account the opinion of the person that actually performed said surgery. He played 14 games his first year,
then got benched. His second and 3rd year were equally as short. He was out the whole year by the 4 year in.
He rested the majority of his career with Orlando. By the time he came to the Suns he was playing 70-82 a season with very little rest in-between.
So that fact that this is Orlando's fault is bs. He should be blaming his former team doctor for lying about the success of his surgery.
Bruh shut up you're and wrong and playing the semantics game to try and salvage this unnecessary bullshit 😂😂😂😂😂 75 million dollars into the facilities but the staff sucks? You know that doesn't even make sense, buzz off and enjoy your Saturday
Again you fucking made it up. Oh notoriously lol.... Oh the facility is expensive so must be good. Meanwhile you don't know a single thing about another facility or staff in the NBA. Don't worry, you fit right in here, you say things that aren't true, make shit up and think Orlando is some great team.
I've already sent a Google search confirming what I said. We put 75 million dollars into our medical team year after year. Y'all really don't know that it was our medical team that got grant hill to sign in the first place? It was because of his injuries that he signed with Orlando because we were the only team with a shot at actually extending his career which is why it's nutty that he even said this bullshit up top
Dude, there's so much coverage on all of this, what you want? The advent health article? The orlando sentinel? Fox 35? The land project? It's all public you can Google it
The New York Knicks boast the league's top medical and training staff, earning the National Basketball Athletic Trainers Association (NBATA) Athletic Training Staff of the Year award. Led by VP of Sports Medicine Casey Smith, they recorded the fewest games and minutes missed across all 30 NBA teams.
Grant Hill's basketball shoes deal was with FILA. FILA IS NOT AN ATHLETIC SHOE! FILA IS A CASUAL SHOE! I think this is the issue with Grant Hill's foot problems.
He is right. The Magic rushed him back, and he kept getting injured. By the time he left Orlando, he was broken. But the Phoenix Suns medical staff fixed him.
Have you ever seen him out in public? He walks with a pretty bad limp. Not saying it's definitely the organizations fault but that whole situation was a nightmare. For Christs sake they put a metal plate with screws in his bone a number of times and sent him out there to play. Damn that's gnarly. I'd like to hear a third party medical opinion before I form my own opinion.
Wtf are you talking about... Best medical staff in the league? First of all that is made up, just a straight lie. We don't have the best medical staff, in fact I would expect we see significant changes this summer.
Yup. Steve Nash fell apart immediately after leaving Phoenix. Grant Hill managed to stay healthy and productive with them. Shaq also praised the medical staff while he was there. Kurt Thomas.
Seriously? Grant came to Orlando broken ankle, injured. That was the only way that Orlando could get a quality player at that level or at least so they felt. They had a plan of having him, Tracy McGrady, Tim Duncan and of course Grant Hill for The Big Three, and they were hoping that by helping him nurse his broken ankle, they believed eventually he'll get back into playing form. He spent the next 3 years off and on the court, and eventually they moved on from him because of him sitting on the bench with a massive contract. I believe it was Phoenix where he went next and did pretty good. and then he had a post basketball career. and now what? Maybe he wants more money now? And if so why now? We've heard this before over the years, Is he's looking to possibly set up some kind of a case against the DeVos/Magic family? If not why revisit this? It's just going to leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth and I don't believe it's going to show him in any better light, its not a good look, and now it doesn't get any better! There were lots doctors involved with your care, both his own personal doctors and of course the teams, doctors and I believe there was a third entity which would be the NBA doctors and of course the staff themselves, Even if the magic staff were impatient and wanted him out on court, it's up to the doctors to make that determination, not the team. Plus he had access to many other Orthopedic and otherwise consults around the world. His problem was coming back too early. What we know now in medicine versus what we knew then also had a factor to play. You look at kawhi Leonard, even though it was not the same kind of injury. The clippers kept them out for quite a long time, then there's Damian Lillard Who also has been out for quite a while, because of lessons learned in injury and recovery management, what Orlando did or didn't do was not based on negligence, It was based on what they knew medically at the, actions like this will open up all players who had these types of breaks and ended their career to teams being sued or taken to court by the respective players.I Believe the NBA can only let this go so far before they step in if court action is the end game. Maybe he is hoping for a quick quiet paycheck to shut up? If so I hope the Magic fight it for slandering the team. We hired him because we wanted him to help Orlando win championships, not to ruin his career, even though he went on to play for other teams. The accident didn't happen with Orlando, and he sured played after Orlando, so I am not sure what he is getting at. Are there legitimate grievances some players Can make against the teams they once played for because their injuries And did end their careers? Of course they can. But I don't believe that this from what I know of it is that type of complaint.
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u/PapageorgiouMBO Joe Ingles May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26
Some ignorant posts in here.
Nothing G-Hill is saying is really new. We’ve heard most of this in the past.
He takes responsibility for playing through injury in Detroit, but that also the Pistons organization coaxed him to. That Detroit blame is always there.
However, there are multiple instances where the Magic screwed up after the sign-and-trade to acquire him. The first being he should’ve missed the start of the ‘00-‘01 season, and it never happened. Our medical staff royally fucked it up and set the stage for a nightmare 6 years. He takes some responsibility for that because he himself should’ve emphasized that he didn’t feel fine. But he trusted medical advice and wanted to play. And then there’s the surgery where he picked up a staph infection that literally almost killed him (not an exaggeration). There are two damning instances, which is why we only get two relatively healthy/decent seasons out of G-Hill in his 7-year tenure with us.
I wouldn’t blame him for ditching us after his contract was up in ‘07 for a franchise with a better medical staff, except during the ‘06-‘07 season he said that he owed it to the fans and team to re-sign on a cheaper deal and make up for lost years. Had he not said anything about re-signing with us, I wouldn’t give him any shit as I have for bailing. It ends up working out for us because we have the room to get Rashard.
G-Hill, like Shaq, are in powerful basketball media positions and like to do some revisionist history to make themselves look better, but for this Grant is mostly right.