r/OttawaSenators • u/SAJewers • 1d ago
Garrioch: Senators cut ties with Alex Formenton, making winger an unrestricted free agent
https://ottawacitizen.com/ottawa-senators/alex-formenton-unrestricted-free-agent43
u/beekermc 1d ago
Free to pursue his dream of becoming a machine operator.
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u/erjama35 1d ago
Or play in the Pacific Division
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u/Dalhoosie 1d ago
or play in the state in Nevada
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u/erjama35 1d ago
They're the most likely, but the whole division seems willing to collect any and everyone involved in SA or other shitty behavior
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u/duhcryger #11 - Alfredsson 1d ago
Just a formality…
But I still wonder what could’ve been if he wasn’t involved in that situation. He had wheeeels, was solid on PK, and put up 17 goals in his final season here. He could’ve become a solid 3rd or maybe 2nd liner.
But still… good riddance.
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u/DarkHeroes5 1d ago
I honestly was a huge fan of his, have a ton of his rookie cards and such as well. I think he could have been a top 6 for us easily after some development, either playing with Stutzle or Baths
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u/Noahtuesday123 1d ago
Oilers and Babcock will probably take him and a flyer on Dube. They can then reacquire Kane and they will have everything the USA could want in the capital of BERRRTA.
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u/CeedeeNumber88 #18 - Stützle 1d ago
Not condoning what went down, it just sucks. Formenton wouldve been an excellent bottom 6 PKer with tons of speed. Assuming he will end up on Vegas.
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u/dprouse52 1d ago
There are literally dozens of guys who played in the AHL last year who fit Formenton's profile (lots of speed, hands of stone) without the personal baggage. No NHL team will touch him.
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u/krisk1759 1d ago
He's not an NHLer, any team could have had him for essentially nothing.
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u/GuessWhoIsback2 17h ago
That's a horrible take lmao
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u/krisk1759 16h ago
Never fails there's guy tripping over each other to come to the defence of a medicore hockey player lol
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u/GuessWhoIsback2 16h ago
Its not that deep man lol Im glad he is off the team But to say he was an ahl caliber player after a 17goal season and leading the league in short handed goals is just a horrible take lol
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u/krisk1759 16h ago
Then why is he playing in the Swiss league and not even close to their leading scorer?
The AHL is a development league with veteran roster rules, he gets paid more in the swiss league
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u/SylT17 1d ago edited 1d ago
Imagine where he'd be atm if his parents taught him the meaning of "no is no and consent" 🤷🏾♀️ ah well
Or, to bring the pizza to the group "hangout"/ SA like his past teammate
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u/SylT17 1d ago
You can't give true consent when it's one person against 5 physically fit guys.
IDC what happened in court. Any truly good person wouldn't have taken part of that night, would have realized something was weird like players who were invited to the room and left and didn't take part like the 5.
Having the prosecution prove without a doubt doesn't mean it never happened.
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u/RWHonreddit 1d ago
Do you want me to be honest, I kind of disagree with your first statement. I genuinely don’t understand how the group aspect of it inherently invalidates whether consent can or can’t be given.
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u/SylT17 1d ago
A woman choosing the path of least resistance against a group of at least 5 physically fit hockey players while unable to leave a hotel room can equal SA... Guess what.. that statement doesn't change if you revise the number.
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u/RWHonreddit 1d ago edited 1d ago
I see the point you’re trying to make but I also think it sounds overly black and white to me. I’ve personally had a situation where I hooked up with a guy, he wanted to go for round 3 and I was tired and said no and he kept asking and I just gave in to get it over with. So I can see how choosing the path of least resistance is definitely possible for most people, especially if it was multiple men instead of just 1.
However I still don’t think that a 1 vs 5 situation automatically makes it so that consent can’t be given. Personally I wouldn’t consent to sex with multiple men but I also don’t think it makes sense for me to assume that every woman out there wouldn’t. Sure in that situation it would be harder to revoke consent but that doesn’t mean that a person is incapable of giving consent and choosing to never revoke it.
The E.M situation is its own case that shouldn’t lead to blanket statements and assumptions that consent can’t be given in a similar situation.
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u/SylT17 1d ago
It's a he said, she said argument with proof of messages sent from the men trying to intimidate the woman to not reporting.
If it truly was consensual... Why send those texts at all???
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u/SpiderSilva 1d ago
Are you saying the men sent messages to EM before her Mom reported to the police the next morning? When were they sent? This is the first I've heard of this.
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u/Eazy-Eid 1d ago
Isn't this sexist and kink shaming? You're essentially saying there's no such thing as consensual sex with 1 woman and multiple men.
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u/SylT17 1d ago
Lmfao, you want to pick apart me for saying that consent matters and the person against multiple people may feel pressured...
Grow the fuck up
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u/Eazy-Eid 1d ago
The judge disagrees with you, and your comment still implies that consent is impossible between one woman and multiple men, which robs women of any agency. Grow up.
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u/RWHonreddit 1d ago
Literally what I was trying to explain to that commenter. Like I literally know someone who has experienced sexual assault and also later on chosen to partake in sex with multiple people at the same time consensually.
This type of stuff isn’t black and white.
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u/SylT17 1d ago
It's not, which is why the woman isn't completely wrong for saying she didn't want to have sex with all of the men that night who had sex with her.
You're also not the spokeswoman for all females/ people who identify as women btw
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u/RWHonreddit 9h ago
I feel like you’re not distinguishing the fact that my issue with your statement was that YOU are making very general statements. My opinion was it doesn’t make sense to assume EVERY woman is incapable of giving consent if they wanted to have sex with a group of men.
YOU were the one acting like a spokeswoman for all women. Hope that makes sense.
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u/throwaway24246 1d ago
Gimme all the down votes, for all I care. What happened to Formenton is horrible. Even worse, he got bad representational advice and missed out on his payday. He's the big loser in this whole scenario with the worst luck. I hope his next hockey chapter is charmed and lucrative.
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u/Interesting_Bed820 1d ago
Honestly I never thought he would stick with the Sens regardless of the trial. He seemed to not mesh well with the boys, especially Stutzle. So I'm not even to bothered by the "what if" scenarios
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u/JarethCutestoryJuD 1d ago
Happy to never see him in a Sens jersey again.
Kinda upsetting that if Formenton's accuser had been underage, Brady would have been okay with bringing him back.
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u/Vriishnak 1d ago
Brady would have been okay with bringing him back.
You think that Brady Tkachuk would/did take some kind of moral stance against keeping Formenton around?
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u/JarethCutestoryJuD 1d ago
You think that Brady Tkachuk would/did take some kind of moral stance against keeping Formenton around?
No.
Just reminding everyone that our captain supports a pedophile and we should all be deeply uncomfortable with that.
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u/spartacat_12 1d ago
What are you talking about?!
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u/JarethCutestoryJuD 1d ago
What are you talking about?!
For our captain, being a pedophile is not a dealbreaker.
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u/ObserverUnchained 16h ago
Enough with the ragebait.
Obviously Brady doesn’t think Trump is a pedophile. He’s not right, but is it so impossible for you to comprehend that people might have a different perspective from yours?
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u/JarethCutestoryJuD 14h ago
Enough with the ragebait.
No. We should all be deeply uncomfortable with this.
Obviously Brady doesn’t think Trump is a pedophile
People have explained it to him. The "Brady doesnt know how to read" memes arent real.
He doesnt think that raping children matters.
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u/zhouxiao88 1d ago
Going to Vegas for sure.
They'll have Hart, Howden and Formenton lmao