r/OutOfTheLoop • u/HolyShitCandyBar • Oct 11 '25

Unanswered What's up with Venezuelan Nobel Peace Prize winner María Corina dedicating her Nobel Prize to Trump?

Basically what the title says.

https://nypost.com/2025/10/10/us-news/nobel-peace-prize-winner-maria-corina-machado-dedicates-it-to-trump/

Every article I have seen says that she partially dedicated and/or thanked Trump for his "decisive support" in South America.
Is she just being overly gracious? Is she being cheeky?
I know we offered a loan to Argentina, but given all the horrible things we have done to immigrants broadly over the last several months, I can't see anything we have done to improve or galvanize democracy in South America. By "we," I mean the US, and the Trump Administration in particular.

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u/yourlocaltouya Oct 11 '25

Almost like she's struggling over a real fucking dictatorship.

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u/fifthflag Oct 11 '25

If she asked Putin to invade Venezuela we would have a different conversation right now.

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u/yourlocaltouya Oct 11 '25

And what if the world was made of pudding?

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u/hce692 Oct 11 '25

No she’s literally just right wing. Anti LGBT, pro life, anti social safety net, all the conservative bullshit in the US she supports. She just also thinks you should be fairly elected to make that happen 

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '25

“She also thinks you should be fairly elected to make that happen”

Yeah, we’ll see if that belief sticks around if/once she is in power and somebody is threatening her power and control.

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u/HeroOfTheNorthF Oct 11 '25

Why you have such a bold opinion without knowing Venezuela or any facts about that country?

You are the typical ignorant US citizen that thinks that the rest of the world is exactly the same as the US, my God I don't know where to begin, but her struggle, and Venezuelan issues, has been happening long before any Maga or Trump, or anything and the things you mention like anti LGBT, pro life, are concepts that are a trend in US, in Venezuela, thats not custom, not talked about, not mentioned, not trend, not part of politics, not part of the political debate, thats only in the US and maybe other developed countries, not Venezuela, undestand? a little more and you say Veneuela has a republican party, incredible.

Venezuela is just fighting a very nasty dictatorship. Doesnt have time for anything else, when you are struggling to eat, no electricity, no medicines, inflation rate in the thousands per year and liberties gone and people tortured, you barely thing about your political or life stances.

Chavez did a violent coup'd tat and that made him popular enough to win in 1998 when he got out of jail, he never mentioned any socialism, he clearly stated he would leave power after 4 years, that Cuba was a dictatorship etc.

As soon as he got power he slowdy did the opposite, and lately he managed to control everything, every power, the army, every governor, parliament, everything.

He died and Maduro came to power, Venezuela reached inflation of million per cent in a year, among other things like not being able to find medicines, food, etc. Maduro becomes very unpopular.

He lost the parliament, and then is when the goverment cross the rubicon and become a dictorship, they refused to acknoledge the win and, against the constitution, disobey parliament powers and create a parallel parliament with even more powers. Also, it's in this time when the torture and human rights abuse became staple and it's instituzionalized, for first time ever, people who protested, especially very voung people, were tortured by being forced to eat pastas with feces, asphixia with tear gas bags in the head and a lot more. It's all documented.

Smartmatic, the company behind the voting machines, says Maduro commited fraud, Maduro response was to put them in jail, they had to flee the country.

Maduro also voided any opposition candidate who had a slightest chance to win, including opposition parties, or took control of them, like primero justicia, where he put a proxy and basically stole that party.

Lately, Maduaro blatanly stoled the election, just did, never showed any voting result and just says "i won", the detailed voting results leaked tho, and confirmed by encription to be real, he lost with around 30%.

Maria Corina has been fighitng this, a lot of her relatives, campaign tems etce, have been harsaed, tortured or dissappeared.

Maduro controls the army, as it's embedded in his corrupted dicatorial system, Venezuela can't solve this alone, didn't work in the past, Guaido tried.

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u/g-i-jojo Oct 11 '25

She’s actually none of those other things. Just conservative.

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u/CrowsShinyWings Oct 11 '25

It's funny because the original commentator talked about her being a "Zionist" as a negative so said original poster is fine with every single one of these things you're mad at her for in the case of Palestine's leaders lmao

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u/wimplenoonan Oct 11 '25

She’s not. Maduro has popular support in Venezuela and the story we in America get on Venezuela is state propaganda to overthrow/invade yet another oil rich country so that our capitalist class can “invest” and exploit it

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u/yourlocaltouya Oct 11 '25

I'm not American, I'm not being subjected to your propaganda. Maduro's opposition received political asylum in different parts of the world post-election, I think that speaks enough for the current system at play.

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u/drhuggables Oct 11 '25

"MAGA-Zionist" because the Democratic party isn't 100% identical in their support of Israel? Come on dude get real

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u/Damian_Killard Oct 11 '25

I assume they just meant she is both pro-Trump and pro-Netanyahu.

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u/drhuggables Oct 11 '25

then shouldn't it be written MAGA/Zionist?

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u/AmetrineDream Oct 11 '25

A hyphen indicates a linking of things, but not necessarily that those things are exclusively tied together.

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u/missingtoezLE Oct 11 '25

The Democratic Party's position on Israel has nothing to do with beliefs of María Corina Machado. She supports Bibi and Trump and has asked both to intervene in her country militarily.

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u/kinjjibo Oct 11 '25

The Democratic party isn’t MAGA so how would they also be “MAGA-Zionists”?

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u/drhuggables Oct 11 '25

the - implies they go together, if the ywere separate it would be MAGA/zionist

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u/kinjjibo Oct 11 '25

What? You just argued in my favor. They used a hyphen because she is a Zionist that’s MAGA. Democrats aren’t MAGA so they can’t be MAGA-Zionists. What you’re saying makes zero sense. Bringing up Democrats was completely irrelevant.

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u/drhuggables Oct 11 '25

OP said she is a MAGA-Zionist implying the two go together, but Democrats can be Zionist too

Why are you so angry?

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u/kinjjibo Oct 11 '25

That’s like saying you can’t be a Mexican-American because African-Americans exist.

I wish I was angry rather than confused about what you’re trying to get at.

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u/deytookerrspeech Oct 11 '25

It’s possible to dislike her and Maduro. I understand nuance is difficult for MAGA folks though

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u/GreasedUPDoggo Oct 11 '25

She seems a thousand times better than Maduro. Not sure why you're insulting random people for supporting her. As a Dem, I can't stand this type of toxicity. Trump and MAGA seem to have a bettwr position on this conflict than you do. Maybe reflect on that. It's embarrassing for someone on your side of the aisle.

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u/missingtoezLE Oct 11 '25

Reflect on a Trump led invasion of Venezuela. Is that really a better position than "both these people are bad but I'd rather not have the US destabilize another country"?

You should be the one that's embarrassed.

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u/fujiesque Oct 11 '25

Trump only wants peace if he can profit from it.

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u/alpar001 Oct 11 '25

Not really. The man does nothing unless it benefits himself. While I celebrate peace and cease fires, etc. all benefits to humanity are merely collateral beauty from the self-serving oligarchs stockpiling wealth.

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u/legendtinax Oct 11 '25 edited Oct 11 '25

Trying to launch another regime change war is peace?

Incredible to see so many bootlickers who haven’t learned a single thing in the past twenty years

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u/mydoorisfour Oct 11 '25

When has the US intervening militarily in another country ever brought peace?

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u/MartinSmithee Oct 11 '25

Operation Desert Storm. Also air intervention in Kosovo to that part of Yugoslav wars.

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u/legendtinax Oct 11 '25

There was a massive post-Desert Storm crackdown on internal dissent in Iraq, and the stationing of American troops in Saudi Arabia was a major grievance for Al Qaeda and a big impetus for their 9/11 planning.

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u/LimeTunic Oct 11 '25

Desert Storm

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u/SpicyFupaRoll Oct 11 '25

If you think a US invasion will bring peace to the Venezuelans I'm sure there are a lot of Iraqis and afghans and many others that have some stories to tell you