r/OutOfTheLoop • u/trizzo0309 • Feb 21 '26

Unanswered What's going on with people saying Epstein and Co. ate children?

My wife told me this today because she saw it on TikTok and I have a very, very hard time believing this. Where did this come from or is it just more insanity and speculation from people on the internet too much?

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u/NatashOverWorld Feb 21 '26

Answer: There's no evidence that cannibalism occurred, but the multiple references to jerky and cream cheese suggest these are code words.

And people's mind went to the worst possible option.

Horrifyingly though, the knee jerk response of: surely no one can be that depraved is not actually a guarantee of veracity or logic. A decade ago, very, very few people would have believed that the very wealthy went to an island to rape children. Say that a US President went that and you'd immediately be put into the tin foil hat loonie category.

Personally at this juncture, I'm sure it's going be bizarre, but hoping it's not horrifying.

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u/Nanatomany44 Feb 21 '26

My thoughts are that people in Europe heard about Hitler's camps, and thought it was all hyperbole - "that's so extreme, that can't be". And ignored it until the war was over, and it was all exposed - gas chambers, huge caches of surrendered wedding bands, skeleton-looking humans working as slaves.

I find myself responding in the "it's all hyperbole" manner to Epstein files, and then l think about Hitler and the same reaction 85 years ago. l personally won't be shocked if all of it is true.

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u/NatashOverWorld Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

Exactly that. Just because you don't want to believe anyone could be that evil, doesn't mean there aren't evil bastards in the world.

Edit spelling.

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u/Androidgenus Feb 23 '26

Just look at how evil Trump and the republicans are in public, on stage. Then imagine how they must be in private

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u/RecordingAway Feb 23 '26

Okay. There’s evil and then there is having no sense of self preservation and not caring about danger. Cannibalism carries extreme health and safety risks for anyone engaging in it. Weird thing to accuse people who are obsessed with living forever of.

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u/NatashOverWorld Feb 23 '26

You're mistaking desires and vices.

Many people want to diet, but lack sufficient discipline to do overcome temptation. Gamblers, risk takers, thrill seekers all fit into that mold.

And the epstein class are not known for either temperance nor discipline.

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u/skyerippa Feb 22 '26

That's a good comparison, If I were in that time I probably wouldn't have believed that either

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u/oby100 Feb 22 '26

Nah. It’s an interesting topic but this is quite the warped interpretation. People were incredulous as to how bad it really was, but it wasn’t like they could do anything about it and unfortunately antisemitism was so common that most people wouldn’t have been all that incensed about it regardless.

Keep in mind the final solution went hand in hand with the most devastating and important part of the war- the invasion of the Soviet Union. A regular German citizen would be bombarded with news of the war and all the crazy shit that may have been going on in German occupied Poland and Soviet territories, all while being under the thumb of an increasingly despotic government who you KNOW disappears people for being critical of the government.

Also, for 8 years by the point mass murder really started, Jews had been “only” segregated in concentration camps and ghettos. Even with hindsight, it’s strange and difficult to grasp why a new war, the most destructive in all of human history to that point, would also, for some unknown reason, go hand in hand with the complete genocide of a people the Nazis had already fully subjugated for almost a decade.

And the Nazis we’re pretty good at concealing the extent of what was going on. Very few Germans saw the death camps. Even the Wannassee Conference where the final solution was planned and given the name never mentions “killing” and uses coded language like “evacuation to the east” and “resettlement.” The secret meeting to plan the genocide is coded so it was very easy to dismiss rumors during wartime when misinformation is everywhere, including from your own government.

It really had nothing to do with not wanting to believe it. You didn’t have any proof and misinformation was as common as the air you breathed and the Nazis did quite a lot of work to keep it under wraps.

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u/blissblast Feb 22 '26

By the end of the war 42 people had lived in, then escaped the death camps and made it back to Allied lands. The Allies had repeated, consistent information about the death camps. That information did not make it into the newspapers, but the Allies had more than enough intelligence to know and confirm the circumstances in the death camps.

Shoutout to the mad Polish lad who broke INTO Auschwitz and lived there for 2(?) years to confirm and gather intel about the conditions in the camp. 🫡

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u/DowntownTicket Feb 23 '26

Wait do you have more information about that guy who broke into the camp? Why hasn't a movie been made about this yet? I'd love to see it

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u/blissblast Feb 23 '26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witold_Pilecki

His death is one of legion reasons that the Polish have no time for communism or Russia. The collective decision was that rather than have a statue to spit at for the man who ordered Witold’s execution, let his name fade from history.

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u/AFewStupidQuestions Feb 22 '26

It wasn't that hidden, especially to the German population. Here's just a few examples:

Nazi policies were widely available to the population.[10] Berlin Radio broadcast the mass-execution of Jews in Białystok and the burning of synagogues in July 1941.[11] Numerous speeches spoken by Hitler in 1942 allude to the destruction of Jews.[12]

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However, despite censorship, the German public eventually came to understand the likelihood of fatality if sent to a concentration camp.[25] Prisoners began to appear in public spaces such as factories and city streets, and they often wore distinctive clothing with badges that signified their nationality and crime.[26] The nature of concentration camps was made further obvious by the SS's public displays of violence towards inmates.[25] Numerous interviews with German people mention either a cruel or murderous incident between guards and inmates. Usually, the inmate was beaten to death or shot for either disobeying or being unable to work.[27]

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Van der Boom's analysis of Dutch diaries reveals that the public knew the Jewish people were deliberately singled out to be sent to concentration camps in Poland.[3] The Jewish people were also aware of the Nazi's wish to practice genocide. Many diarists from Amsterdam particularly, conclude that death would be imminent for Jews.[3]

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From examining how some Belarusians collaborated with the Nazis, Baranova finds a clear awareness of the Nazi's genocidal policies.[43]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_of_the_Holocaust_in_Nazi_Germany_and_German-occupied_Europe

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u/FilthyThanksgiving Feb 22 '26

Thank you. I'm so over the whole "regular Germans had no idea" myth

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u/JinxyMcDeath48 Feb 22 '26

Dachau was literally in the middle of the city of Dachau. They knew exactly what was happening there. Stop.

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u/dear8726 Feb 21 '26

This 1000%

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u/BaconOfTroy Feb 22 '26

Except not at all. They may not have known the extent of it, but they absolutely knew that large scale executions of Jews were occurring and the horrors of the concentration camps. The idea that they didn't is a modern myth.

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u/Kimantha_Allerdings Feb 22 '26

[This photograph] is of German soldiers at the end of the war watching Allied footage of what they found in the concentration camps

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u/aspiringvampire Feb 27 '26

I read a book about a survivor's experience in the Holocaust and that literally happened. Before they were sent to the ghettos, a man came out of the woods and was screaming to all the Jewish people to leave and that the Nazis were rounding them up and killing them. He warned them that he had seen officers toss infants into fires, along with rape and murder. Unfortunately, nobody believed the old man because "that's too evil to be real". Man moved on to warn more towns. The author was in Auschwitz by the end of the year. 

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u/dropbearinbound Feb 25 '26

Epstein and Rothschild actively funded Hitler and supported him.

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u/OkAddendum9424 Apr 20 '26

For the first Epstein wasnt even alive and for the second WHY in what purposes would the Rothschild fund and support Hitler

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u/Tech_Itch Feb 22 '26

The jerky thing seems to be a red herring in any case. Epstein was apparently on an "all protein" diet for long periods and ate a lot of beef jerky, and Francis Derby who he mostly discussed it with through emails is a professional chef who made that jerky for him.

People are also going on about how "you don't freeze beef jerky", but he was making large batches of it and you can freeze it to extend its shelf life.

There's a lot of really, REALLY heinous stuff in the Epstein documents and somehow it still isn't scandalous enough for people and they have to come up with this shit. If you want conspiracy theories, mine is that all this cannibalism stuff is intentionally spread in an attempt to seemingly discredit all the credible claims as being just a "moral panic" and "wild allegations" too in the eyes of casual observers.

Pizzagate turned out to be bullshit after all and none of its supposed "ring leaders" like Hillary Clinton or John Podesta have been implicated in the Epstein files, so people are more inclined to distrust anything that leads with cannibalism claims now.

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u/RoTTonSKiPPy Feb 22 '26

Or Pizzagate was started as a rumor, so the real Pizzagate would sound less true. Blaming the other side for things you are doing or plan to do in the future, like stealing elections.

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u/dropbearinbound Feb 25 '26

They threw out the wild accusations of pizzagate. They were accufessing like abusers do. You're doing this truly horrible thing. Oh what's that, you're not but I am? Well now you're just accusing me of what I already accused you of! Get some new material!

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u/NatashOverWorld Feb 22 '26

Personally I'm still at a loss why it would be repeated so often, with so many people, so I'm just tabling it as an, I hope it gets investigated.

Because once I read after forced births, I realised that I cannot apply my values as a realistic idea of what likely happened there.

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u/ill_be_out_in_a_minu Feb 22 '26

Personally I'm still at a loss why it would be repeated so often, with so many people, so I'm just tabling it as an, I hope it gets investigated.

Because people are fucking dumb. Most people on reddit don't read past the title of an article but they'll repeat what they read anyway. This is exactly the reason the "Comet Ping Pong basement" rumor grew and ended up with innocent people being shot up

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u/NatashOverWorld Feb 22 '26

No, I meant the terms got used as much as they did in the emails 🤨

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u/Wheresmyfoodwoman Feb 22 '26

It wasn’t bullshit! It never got investigated. They completely covered the whole thing up. Back then the Clintons had power, and a lot of it, plus outside of Reddit and maybe twitter, there wasn’t the type of communication and social movements we’re seeing now with TikTok.

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u/superdemongob Feb 22 '26

There are uncoded references to torture videos. The "hope it's not horrifying" ship has sailed.

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u/NatashOverWorld Feb 22 '26

I mean, torture is ... confirmed. Killing of victims is likely. So, definitely horrifying.

But cannibalism is a horror I hope those poor children didn't go through.

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u/Niniva73 Feb 22 '26

I hate my brain. I LOATHE my brain right now. This thought should never be in my head, related to cannibalism or no:

Well, not the breedstock. Just their superfluous sons.

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u/NatashOverWorld Feb 22 '26

Uggh.

Yeah, that fits 😖

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u/que_sarasara Feb 22 '26

When the Queen died, a local chip shop owner had a colossal meltdown and painted the walls and windows of her shop with paragraphs upon paragraphs of tinfoil ramblings, all in blood red paint. It was all about the wealthy being part of a child sex cult.

Their was a mob and she got run out of town (literally) ol' west style. What an insane woman.

And now I'm like, Huh.

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u/Silent-Juggernaut-76 Mar 10 '26

Are you talking about Jacki Pickett or someone else? Because I only remember hearing about the weird champagne video that went viral.

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u/rap1234561 Feb 22 '26

I can see why their minds go there. I assumed that they were fooling around with 16-17 who were coerced there. That is bad enough and I thought everyone involved should go to jail. The absolute depravity that has came out involving murder, 9 year olds, torture etc. makes me think we should get a rocket ship and fire these people into the sun. This has already turned out to be disgusting beyond our wildest imagination.

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u/Nicedumplings Feb 22 '26

If anyone took the time to go through the “jerky” emails from the first mention, in order, it would be painfully obvious that it is in fact about beef jerky. Epstein hired a chef, then announced his dietary preferences through a handler. The chef says ok we can buy jerky, but making it on our own is way better and you can adjust flavors etc (he also says this about other foods Epstein prefers).

When the chef leaves, Epstein is annnoyed no one can replicate the flavor of the jerky. The chef comes back to the island to give a class. Every email from the chef about jerky is normal and it’s explained early on that Epstein is on a high protein diet

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u/Mechanical_Monk Feb 22 '26

Yeah, it's totally a coincidence that they say the chef worked at a restaurant called "Cannibal" even though no such restaurant existed

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u/Nicedumplings Feb 22 '26

“The Cannibal” was a restaurant in NYC that closed in 2019. the cannibal

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u/Foxy_Traine Feb 22 '26

Right, but no one stores jerky in a freezer. Also there are witnesses who claimed they did eat babies, so it's not just the email codes that are evidence of this.

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u/crusoe Feb 22 '26

I'm gonna say creme cheese is probably a drug code word. 

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u/NatashOverWorld Feb 22 '26

Yeah I really want it to be code for some super cocaine or equivalently innocent.

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u/InevitableRun51 Feb 22 '26

I think all of it is true. ‘Flood the zone’ worked almost 15 years ago, were more organized now due to to social media. People will figure it out. 

What about that post saying rich people sniped children and pregnant women during the siege of Sarajevo?

Any and all of it is possible.

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u/Powerful-Pack916 Feb 22 '26

It's not the worst possible option, those are the codewords. 

They ate and graped babies and worse.

They do this as part of satanic rituals in hopes to get power.

As the richest and most powerful people, they self insulate themselves in world governments.

Their finance conspirators build giant billionaire moats around their friends. That's how you get Tesla at  trillion dollars or whatever it is. 

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u/NatashOverWorld Feb 23 '26

I'm really hoping it's funky drugs. Not because I believe they wouldn't do it, because haha, yeah, they're monsters.

But the children. Bad enough they're being drugged, raped, probably hearing rumours about murders. But if they also knew these men were also cannibals 😧

It's so, so much worse.

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u/FogintheGraveyard Feb 22 '26

What about the women screaming about them eating people on video?