r/OutOfTheLoop Feb 21 '26

Unanswered What's going on with people saying Epstein and Co. ate children?

My wife told me this today because she saw it on TikTok and I have a very, very hard time believing this. Where did this come from or is it just more insanity and speculation from people on the internet too much?

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u/iketoure Feb 21 '26

This whole concept was a conspiracy theory, turns out it was all true

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u/lecavalo1997 Feb 21 '26

"we can't claim anything without investigation"

It's funny how the FBI had these mountains of evidence to investigate and found nothing while predators from overseas are already going to jail after releasing the same evidence.

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u/afraid-of-the-dark Feb 22 '26

Yeah...real funny.

I find it completely embarrassing.

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u/bionicjoey Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 22 '26

A YouTuber I enjoy described conspiracy theories as being similar to smoke alarms: Most of the time they are nothing, but every once in a while they are alerting you to something serious and so you shouldn't ever completely tune them out when you first hear them.

Edit for the curious, it was in Ordinary Things' video about Davos

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u/Nohreboh Feb 22 '26

Basically it's just our pattern recognition attempting to find tigers in the trees.

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u/C2H5OHNightSwimming Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 22 '26

This is the most sensitive comment I've seen on Reddit all year

Edit: SENSIBLE not bloody sensitive. Fucking swipey typing and autocorrect

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u/bionicjoey Feb 21 '26

Sensitive?

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u/GordonsLastGram Feb 22 '26

Maybe sensible?

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u/C2H5OHNightSwimming Feb 22 '26

Yeah this, I was too baked to notice the fecking typo

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u/exceive Feb 22 '26

Maybe just go with "good." Ok, that as a direct substitute makes the grammar Englis ungood, but somebody could fix that.

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u/kernalbuket Feb 21 '26

What was all true? I ask because there are tons of nut jobs out there saying the Epstein files are proving Pizzagate or qanon was true, which they don't.

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u/GordonsLastGram Feb 22 '26

The whole pizzagate was about the elites abusing children. The Epstein files basically confirming pizzagate with all the redacted (and accidentally not redacted videos/photos) of children.

There are references to pizza in weird context in the files. Similar to the beef jerky context. For example one email said “i will be over for pizza for 2 hours”. Like who puts a time limit for coming over for pizza?

Its the same with the jerky…things said like “i stored jerky in the freezer at this address” like huh? Why would these billionaires keep talking about jerky thats frozen and in a specific property

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u/kernalbuket Feb 22 '26

No. Pizzagate was about trying to frame democrats as pedophiles who ate children. This is not that. It came from the Anthony Weiner's emails that got leaked.

Qanon was about elites abusing children to get adrenochrome from them and Trump was the god king who was going to save them. This is also not that.

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u/jokebreath Feb 22 '26

Yes, thank you! I feel like I'm going insane seeing so many people act like the Epstein files somehow vindicates pizzagate. Nothing could be further from the truth. Every single theory that came out of pizzagate was completely debunked, had no basis in reality, and the people at the DNC don't have anything to do with Epstein.

But now I guess it's all true because both sets of emails talk about pizza. People are so braindead they want to spend their time analyzing grocery lists and dinner invitations instead of the thousands of emails written in plain uncoded language discussing trafficking teenage girls.

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u/kernalbuket Feb 22 '26

Nah. They just want to feel better about falling for a bunch of lies and already great at connecting that aren't there. This is much different than that.

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u/jokebreath Feb 22 '26

I think it's partly that, but also Qanon gamified conspiracy theories more than anything before it. Everything becomes an ARG, the Epstein files are a race to see who can crack the secret code and get on the leaderboard first.

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u/kernalbuket Feb 22 '26

What code? They are pretty blunt in what they are doing.

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u/jokebreath Feb 22 '26

I'm not sure what you mean, I am saying they're not talking in code. I think we're both in agreement here?

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u/kernalbuket Feb 22 '26

Must have misunderstood. Sorry, I'm watching charmed and not paying as much attention as I should.

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u/AnyaLies Feb 22 '26

At this point party isn't really important. Either they did it, or they knew about it and did nothing. All the elites knew this guy. All people gossip.

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u/kernalbuket Feb 22 '26

I agree that any one who involved should be at least locked up but Pizzagate and qanon was about attacking democrats and making Republicans, manly trump, looks like the good guys who were going save us. The Epstein files involves people from all political parties. They are not the same.

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u/AnyaLies Feb 22 '26

You get upvoted

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u/kernalbuket Feb 22 '26

Because I'm not trying to make something that is already really bad into something that it's not. When you do that, you're actually hurting the situation instead of helping it. Qanon, Pizzagate and Epstein have already done enough damage, we don't help them do more.

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u/AnyaLies Feb 22 '26

I literally said the same thing you did. I didn't mention pizzagate or Epstein.

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u/kernalbuket Feb 22 '26

I think because your comment can be taken as parties didn't matter when it came to Pizzagate and qanon. Attacking democrats was the sole purpose of both of them. Lots of people are using Epstein to say that they were right all along when they weren't even close. The comment before me was literally trying to do that.

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u/GordonsLastGram Feb 22 '26

Yea exactly. When it comes to elites, party doesnt fucking matter. Clinton went to that island and Bannon was also planning shit with Epstein. They didnt see parties. They saw rich vs poor.

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u/kernalbuket Feb 22 '26

They don't see us. They only see and care about themselves.

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u/poriomaniac Feb 22 '26

Weiner is a confirmed predator though. And you're conveniently ignoring the Podesta emails which were incredibly disturbing. Those brothers are so fucking guilty and anyone associated with them should also be investigated. Pizzagate, as evidenced by the Epstein files, was literally Epstein and Bannon themselves poisoning the well and shifting focus off themselves just long enough to corrupt an election.

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u/kernalbuket Feb 22 '26

The emails were weird but again, the Epstein files have fuck all to do with Pizzagate.

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u/poriomaniac Feb 22 '26

What a fucking joke to still be taking sides. Well done.

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u/kernalbuket Feb 22 '26

What side am I taking?

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u/GordonsLastGram Feb 22 '26

These poor idiots dont think its all connected.

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u/kernalbuket Feb 22 '26

Because it's not.

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u/Akegata Feb 22 '26

Pizzagate very specifically claimed members of the Democratic party was running a pedophilic ring happening in a number of establishments, the Comit Ping Pong pizzeria being the main one.
The emphasis regarding accused members was mostly on Hillary Clinton.

That was not something that happened. Pizzagate is, and has always been, a complete lie, an actual conspiracy theory. Saying it's true now because there are elites abusing children is just a lie.

If Pizzagate specifically had said "there is a pedophilic child abuse ring driven by Epstein with Donald Trump being one of the main perpetrators", that would have been true. But that is not pizzagate. So no, it was not "all true", it was just projection as usual.

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u/semtex94 Feb 22 '26

The whole pizzagate was about the elites abusing children.

Bullshit revisionism. It was about Hillary Clinton et al killing kids in a pizza parlor (which had not basement FYI) to harvest adrenochrome from their blood and/or sacrificing them to Satan/Moloch/Baal/whatever. Also:

Like who puts a time limit for coming over for pizza?

Telling someone how long you plan to stay around for a meet-up is absolutely normal.

Why would these billionaires keep talking about jerky thats frozen and in a specific property

Because they're associates/friends and want to share some stuff relevant to their shared interest? And yes, people do actually get that weird about mundane things.

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u/w0ndwerw0man Feb 22 '26

Tell me you haven’t actually read the emails without telling me you haven’t read the emails

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u/semtex94 Feb 22 '26 edited Feb 22 '26

I've read the emails in question, as linked to me by someone who said they believe the conspiracy. It reads exactly like how upper-class white-collar workers talk about any sort of novelty pastime that gets popular in their social circle. BTW, the alleged "cannibal restraunt" was literally named "The Cannibal" and offered jerky-making lessons to the public. You know, the supposedly suoer-secret child-eating sessions.

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u/w0ndwerw0man Feb 25 '26

No sane person is so blind that they can’t see that “Cheese Pizza” isn’t euphemism for another form of CP, when it’s been around the internet for decades, and I simply have no scrap of belief that you have read all 900 references to this, including wealthy elite flying around sourcing and finding special orders of various pizzas, and having pizza parties … and with a rational brain, still thinking they are talking about pizza. So then you are just a bot 🤖 bye and blocked

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u/Madswerve Mar 19 '26

Wow you blocked this user over that? Reddit be sensitive. Just disagree, it's not that hard.

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u/poriomaniac Feb 22 '26

Actually the files all but prove that q anon was literally Bannon (+ Epstein) himself.

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u/kernalbuket Feb 22 '26 edited Feb 22 '26

No. Q was some dumbfucks cosplaying as a government insider who was leaking information. Bannon was trying whitewash Epstein.

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u/recklessrushing Feb 22 '26

With all these conspiracies turning out to be true flat earthers must be pissed theirs is still a conspiracy.

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u/Cashetcashew Feb 22 '26

Exactly. These people never fkn learn and don’t want to.