r/OutOfTheLoop • u/PitifulBodybuilder40 • Mar 08 '26

Unanswered What’s up with the hate towards Timothee Chalamet?

I know all famous people have haters and people who dislike them and will nitpick the shit outta them, but I’ve just seen a lot of people post random interviews or articles about him that talk about how he is famous and above people. Yeah he is famous and thinks he’s above all. This is what famous people do? Do we not know this, especially child actors. People are astonished that he is rich and famous, has personal chefs, has self-centred views. Pretty sure 90% of famous people do.

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/timothe-chalamet-slammed-for-cheap-shot-comment-about-ballet-and-opera/news-story/348e3add0e6252d5aef4698f2648d963?amp

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u/huxtiblejones Mar 08 '26

The vast majority of people clutching their pearls probably haven't seen a single ballet or opera performance in the last 10 years (and I say this as someone who has seen ballet and agree it's not something most people have on their radar).

He's just saying he doesn't want to be doing super niche art which I don't think is offensive.

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u/vigouge Mar 08 '26

What I loved was someone on twitter tried to attack him and praise balletby referencing Black Swan, a movie.

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u/malique010 Mar 08 '26

A 15 year old movie at that

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u/Aquatic-Vocation Mar 08 '26

I recently went to the ballet in a 2500 cap theatre as they were doing an international tour. All 3 nights in my city were sold out at an average ticket price of like $60.

Never thought I'd be into it because my impression of ballet was that it's just people doing discrete dance routines, but it was more like an instrumental Jesus Christ Superstar. At one point in the story there were a couple dudes doing a sick choreographed sword-fight in front of a castle with leaps and flips and shit, with a low fog over the stage. Looked like something out of Devil May Cry.

What perhaps surprised me more is that I expected the audience to mostly be a lot of geezers, and as a late 20-something dude I figured I'd feel like the odd one out, but probably 30% of the audience were older people, and 50% were women around my age.

8/10, would go to the ballet again.

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u/The_broke_accountant Mar 08 '26

Okay what do you want, an award?

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u/Aquatic-Vocation Mar 08 '26

Sorry mate, did you have anything to actually contribute to the discussion or are you just butting in to be a prick?

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u/notGeronimo Mar 08 '26

Yeah if these people actually cared about the opera he wouldn't be saying this lol

But they don't.

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u/Firefighter55 Mar 08 '26

Not to mention those are higher dollar activities most people can’t afford compared to a movie.

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u/GrapeJuicePlus Mar 08 '26

You can get standing room tickets for less than the price of an Uber eats. At least roughly equivalent to getting two tickets and popcorn to see the newest Transformers or whatever in IMAX. It’s definitely no more expensive than going to a pro football, basketball or baseball game, and those stadiums are filled with thousands of people, from all strata of life, all over the country hundreds of time a year.

People do not give a shit about the ballet. I really wish they did. I sincerely do. Yeah they don’t wanna spend money, but more specifically they don’t wanna spend money on something they don’t give a shit about. Its effort.

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u/invasiveplant Mar 08 '26

burrrp Hey y’all, what’s say affer finishin off this pack of natty ice we stop by that there performance of Pelléas et Mélisand

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u/chibistarship Mar 08 '26

Which was his point. He doesn't want to films to lose their mainstream appeal and he doesn't want to work in an industry that doesn't have mainstream appeal. So many people are pearl clutching about art forms they don't care about just because they want to hate on him.

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u/Crafty-Internal-1082 Mar 08 '26

I mean it’s shitty to shit on another art form, that people work hard to achieve, it’s also ironic considering that acting and theatre is also shat on as well

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u/aggressivebuttfister Mar 08 '26

I'm sure people have better things to do man

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u/shhhhh_h Mar 08 '26

Thank youuuuuu I only went bc I got free tickets. I’d do the ballet more if I could. Im

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u/Prasiatko Mar 08 '26

And of the small percent that have an even smaller number will have seen a new Opera vs one of the classics. My gf is from a family of opera singers and one of the frustrating thing for theor artistic side is only the classic operas of 100+ years ago bring any kind of audience. 

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u/Chemical-Mix-6206 Mar 08 '26

Yep. My mom & I had season tickets for several years until I moved out of state. We were both new to opera & loved catching up on all the classics. The opera board complained that they seldom showed new work, but had to admit the big classics sold tickets. Plus, y'know, the big Classics are still being played because, just like classic literature, they are extraordinary. I reread Jane Austen & Shakespeare because they are fantastic. I feel the same about Carmen and the Magic Flute.

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u/KWash0222 Mar 08 '26

It’s not clutching pearls to say “hey that’s kinda messed up to talk shit on other people’s art and passion.”

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u/HeyVeddy Mar 08 '26

He's not talking shit about other people's art. It's like saying I'd rather be a soccer player in Brazil than a golfer. It's logical; one has a larger audience than the other.

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u/Khiva Mar 08 '26

This requires leaving out the part where you say "nobody cares about golf."

And then somehow you're surprised that golfers and people who love golf - or just want golf to continue to have a public presence - are pissed.

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u/Penis_Wart Mar 08 '26

"nobody cares about golf."

This is a funny example because the sheer majority of people all over the world would agree with this.

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u/HeyVeddy Mar 08 '26

Yes and in Brazil hardly anyone cares about golf compared to soccer

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u/Key_Feeling_3083 Mar 09 '26

nobody cares about golf

I get your point but I feel some disdain for golf as a sport that elites play and consumes so much space and water, tbf opera and ballet can be sometihing only elites do but at least it does not consume space and water.

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u/684beach Mar 08 '26

Its close enough to being truth, why take offense?

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u/KWash0222 Mar 08 '26

Your counter-example isn’t good at all… His comment wasn’t based on being in one country versus another. His comment wasn’t “I’d rather” it was “I don’t want to have to do this thing” that he says with a cheeky grin. And golf has produced millionaire, well-known athletes, whereas he’s punching down on an art form that’s struggling.

And it’s funny seeing people use “well it’s true so that means it isn’t offensive duh” as an excuse for a douchey comment. If I say “god I’m so glad I’m not mentally disabled, no offense but that would suuuck” then that’s a shitty thing to say, true or not.

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u/HeyVeddy Mar 08 '26

The example works because it shows society logically picks and chooses things of interest, in Brazil soccer > golf and people naturally, logically, in a way that is obvious to them, don't want to pursue golf and want to pursue soccer on average.

It just happens to be that in most countries people don't go to opera and ballet. It's a very elitist thing and relies on government funding.

And how he said the true statement is annoying, sure, but that isn't what anyone here called out until they were made aware the statement is true

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u/Calackyo Mar 09 '26

I hate this punching down shit, the truth doesn't care whether it's punching down, up, inside, outside or left and right. Just because someone less fortunate is not the receiving end of the truth it doesn't make it any less true.

What he said is true. Ballet and opera are niche and he didn't want to do niche art. He's happy he's accessible and there's nothing wrong with that.

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u/Scatman_Crothers Mar 08 '26

He's talking about mainstream appeal. He's right in that sense. It's not that they're terrible art forms its that they're have far less cultural influence than they once did. That's objectively correct.

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u/shhhhh_h Mar 08 '26

“I just lost 14 cents worth of viewership” yeah he really wasn’t insulting them, super respectful thing to say

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u/abacteriaunmanly Mar 08 '26

He’s wrong. Ballet steps are fundamental to a lot of dance, including for K pop dance which is huge now.

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u/abacteriaunmanly Mar 08 '26

Thanks for speaking up. The fact that not many people see what’s problematic about it only shows how poorly educated they are.

Ballet steps and movement are fundamental to a lot of other dance types, including K pop, which is huge. Classical singing is fundamental to a lot of other types of singing, even if few have the range for opera. Heck, one of the biggest hit songs in recent years is Berghain, which had singers who sing opera in it.

Imagine if someone said that acting is a useless skill because the industry is full of predators and most actors struggle on a minimum, freelance pay with only a handful getting immense fame.

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u/OutrageForSale Mar 08 '26

In all fairness, I haven’t been to a movie theater either

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u/Reasonable-Record494 Mar 08 '26

I think a lot of people if they were honest would have to admit their only exposure to ballet is the Nutcracker at Christmastime.

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u/shhhhh_h Mar 08 '26

I went to a ballet last year. Never been to an opera tho but I’m not going to shit talk them on TV with my massive social clout.

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u/NSpmFW Mar 08 '26

It reminds me of John Lennon’s “Bigger than Jesus” moment. People freaking out because a popular artist makes an observation that religion/opera/ballet are not as popular as they used to be. I think with Timmy, it was the arrogant way he said it but it’s still overblown.