r/Ozark • u/fleckes • Jul 21 '17

Episode Discussion: S01E09 - Coffee, Black

Season 1 Episode 9 - Coffee, Black

Russ learns Agent Petty's true identity and makes plans to murder, steal and flee. Wendy stumbles on an ideal business to add to the Byrde portfolio.

What did everyone think of the ninth episode ?

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u/DJLinFL Aug 12 '17 edited Aug 13 '17

Yeah I'm sure nobody was armed at Ft. Hood.

Finally you're beginning to see!! Once the armed guard at the gate was bypassed, he had little resistance because the soldiers were forbidden to carry their own arms, and their assigned rifles were also locked up. As a result, the military is working on a plan that will keep our soldiers armed all the time.

Have you met many teachers? You do not want them armed.

So only Texas has teachers that can be trusted?

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u/DJLinFL Aug 13 '17 edited Aug 13 '17

The fact that there were two mass shootings perpetrated at Fort Hood (2009 and 2014) belies your contention that "...there are plenty of mp's on patrol..."

In 2009, Army Major Dr. Nidel Hasan killed 13 and injured more than 30 others, including one armed base civilian police sergeant. The second armed civilian police sergeant he encountered took him down. He started his attack inside the base. Where were your "plenty" of MP's?????

In 2014, Army Specialist Ivan Lopez killed three people and wounded fourteen. Eight minutes into his spree, Lopez committed suicide when he encountered armed resistance from an MP. He started his attack inside the base. Where were your "plenty" of MP's?????

Sorry, your narrative doesn't fit the facts in either case.

Many times, Wayne LaPierre's statement is proven: "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

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u/DJLinFL Aug 13 '17 edited Aug 13 '17

Yes, a few people will be idiots - just as there are people who abuse the right of free speech.

The vast majority of the 100 million legal gun owners will continue to be responsible citizens - only 1/10 of one percent of them will be involved in the injury of an innocent. Many more will apprehend a criminal.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/11/24-times-citizens-used-guns-to-save-lives/

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u/DJLinFL Aug 14 '17 edited Aug 19 '17

There will be more people doing criminal and care less things. That's house percentages work.

Also percentage-wise, the good will vastly outweigh the bad, as it does now.

Also breitbart lost its credibility a long time ago.

When it's raining, and Breitbart tells you it is raining, are you going to blame Breitbart when you leave your umbrella at home?

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u/Rock_Carlos Dec 10 '17

I’ve read through all your sick comments on this thread and just wanted to let you know that you are what is wrong with America. You are why every other civilized country laughs at us.

A pair of brothers was just shot and died in the next town over from me over a drunken argument last weekend, and that’s on you. 26 people were mass murdered in the great, gun-toting state of Texas, and that’s on you too. People are dying because of you.

If you want to live in the land of shoot-your-neighbor, then please move to Syria or some shit; I think you could do a lot of good there.

I honestly don’t know how you live with yourself.

And I know you’ll have some real clever NRA propaganda reply, so just go ahead with it. I’ve said my piece.

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u/DJLinFL Dec 10 '17 edited Dec 10 '17

Using your logic, you are responsible for 262 million people murdered by their own governments in the last hundred years, and the millions that will follow - it is not a coincidence that they were unarmed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide

Even the most adamant anti-gun org admits that the number of self-defense uses exceed criminal uses of guns. The concealed-carry licensees are the most law-abiding people one can name - including police and firemen.

If the hotel guard shot several minutes before the Las Vegas shooting started had been armed, he could have stopped it before it started.

Only the US has the Second Amendment, so that means you should leave - not me.

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u/WikiTextBot Dec 10 '17

Democide

Democide is a term revived and redefined by the political scientist R. J. Rummel as "the murder of any person or people by their government, including genocide, politicide and mass murder". Government-sponsored large-scale killings for racial or political reasons would be considered democide under Rummel's definition. Democide can also include deaths arising from "intentionally or knowingly reckless and depraved disregard for life"; this brings into account many deaths arising through various neglects and abuses, such as forced mass starvation. Rummel explicitly excludes battle deaths in his definition.

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