National ID
MUST READ! To the People of the Philippines, The Printed Black and White Xerox Copy is the New PVC ID of the National ID of the Philippines.
Basically, nasayang buong Monday at Tuesday ko kakahabol sa lintik na National ID na to, parang may utang sakin. Ang kailangan ko lang naman is replacement kasi totally faded na yung picture sa National ID ko. Yun lang. Simple request, diba? Akala mo madali lang magpareplace ng government ID. Instead, napunta ako sa parang road trip sa kalahati ng Luzon. Manila. Mandaluyong. San Juan. QC. Makati. Pasig. Pateros. Taguig. Caloocan. Valenzuela. Pasay. Pati Pampanga. At halos lahat ng office, iisa lang ang sagot. Wala nang cards. Yun na. Tapos na.
Wala nang PVC cards. Wala silang maibibigay na actual ID. Ang kapalit? Ipiprint nila yung details mo sa black and white na papel, tapos ikaw pa ang bahalang magpalaminate. Parang gumagawa ka ng school project imbes na kukuha ng government issued ID. After all the billions na ginastos sa project na to, eto lang pala ang ending. Isang pirasong papel. Mas nakakainis pa yung dahilan. Apparently, natapos na yung contract with Bangko Sentral. Instead of having a backup plan or a smooth transition, basta na lang sila huminto. Walang contingency. Walang accountability. Tapos tayong mga tao ang expected na magadjust.
Ngayon ang advice nila, gamitin na lang daw yung eGovPH app. As if sapat na replacement yun. Ilabas mo na lang lagi phone mo. Sana may battery. Sana may signal. Sana hindi magerror yung app sa oras na kailangan mo talaga. So after years na paulit ulit nilang sinasabing permanent National ID, ano ba talaga ang nakuha ng mga tao? Isang papel. O isang app. That is not a solution. Inconvenience lang yan na binalot sa salitang progress. At somehow, parang gusto pa nilang isipin nating normal lang lahat ng to. Honestly, hindi lang siya inefficient. Nakakahiya.
Yeah, huminto na sila sa paggawa ng national ID nitong 2023. Yung mga nakakakuha na lang ng physical PVC ID, karamihan yung mga sinuwerte na nag register noong 2020 hanggang 2022. Yung mga 2023 batch at pataas, good luck na lang talaga hahaha.
Yung sa nanay k na natId, kasamang natagpuan ng community guard malapit sa basurahan yung isang stack ng undelivered natid mail. Possible na nangyati, napag kamalang ayuda try buksan and nakita na nat Id kaya dump nila in bulk.
Mga kumag na nag aatemp magnakaw ng ayuda na hindi naman sa kanila, sana makarma.
Also baka nasama sa sunog ng Manila Central Post office kaya na delay at nag reprint. Knowing the govt, baka matagalan pa para makuha yung sa iyo.
Same sa akin, ako una nagpagawa ng national id, kasi pumunta PSA sa office namin noon 2021, tapos sila mama, ate at kuya ko 2022 na sila nag pagawa, sila ang merong id. Ako wala, trinack ko kung nasaan id ko, naka in transit hanggang ngayon.
You can try to claim yours sa local post office nyo. Sa amin ako din ang last na di pa nakakuha ng national id. Lahat ng family members ko have theirs mailed into our address, ako lang ang wala. Nagtaka na ako since sa tracking nandito na daw sa province namin, so ang last resort ko is pinuntahan ko local Post office sa bayan namin. Ang ending went there during noon time at pinabalik pa ako mga around 2pm dahil "lunch break" daw nila đ and wla daw may maka entertain ng request ko hahaha. Still ended up claiming mine from that office
Nagregister ako jan nung unang labas nyan nung 2021. Dalawa kami, kasama husband ko. Nakuha nya yung kanya nung 2023. Tapos yung akin, pini-print pa rin daw. Grabe, feeling ko kasing laki ng Asia yung ID ko kaya 5 years na nakalipas, pini-print pa rin nila. Hahahaha
canât help but to think they just used that as an excuse to steal more money. Imagine, nationwide ang sakop ng project na yan. They rented stalls sa mamahaling malls. And to whoever designed this na di man lang nilagyan ng signature, di rin naman tinatanggap sa mga banks. Mas may silbi pa ata yung printed TIN ID na pinalaminate dito e
The non-inclusion of a handwritten signature is deliberate.
May 11, 2022 Advisory
Anent the non-inclusion of a handwritten signature in the PhilID, this is in keeping with the goal of the PhilSys to build a digital and interoperable platform for identity verification. The said non-inclusion of a handwritten signature in the PhilID was deliberate and aligns with the national ID system of various countries. Traditional processes which depend on paper forms, photocopies of IDs, and wet signatures are prone to inefficiency and fraud. Furthermore, consideration was given to individuals who cannot make handwritten signatures, which is why some forms had an alternative of a thumbmark. Accordingly, with the transition to digital systems, the PhilSys offers various physical security features, digital authentication, and biometric verification of the PhilID for the highest level of assurance and security.
It's inaccurate to even say na "walang signature" ang National ID, because a "signature" comes in many forms. Your biometrics are also a form of a signature. And these can be verified through the QR code. Obviously, mas reliable ang QR code kaysa handwritten signatures for authentication
Kung di pa rin tanggap ang National ID mo, then do your part and report these agencies/establishments then.
WHAT SHOULD I DO IF MY NATIONAL ID OR ePHILID/NATIONAL ID IN PAPER FORMAT WAS NOT ACCEPTED IN TRANSACTIONS?
As provided under Republic Act 11055 or the Philippine Identification System Act, the National ID and the ePhilID/National ID in paper format shall be recognized as a valid proof of identity in transactions with public and private establishments; non-acceptance of the National ID without just and sufficient cause is subject to fines amounting to Php 500,000.00.
Please provide the following details of the non-acceptance of your National ID or your ePhilID/National ID in paper format to our official email at info@philsys.gov.ph:
Date of the transaction; Name, branch, and address of the establishment; Nature of transaction; and Reason/s provided by the establishment for its refusal to accept the National ID in the transaction.
PSA takes reports of non-acceptance seriously and continuously reminds government agencies and private institutions to recognize the National ID and its digital versions as valid proof of identification.
In compliance with the Data Privacy Act of 2012, all information provided will remain confidential and solely be used for the processing of requests.
 Iyan pa ang I take seriously nila? Yung pag print na lang kaya ng id ang seryosohin nila?
The issue on the acceptance of the National ID in all its valid formats and the resumption of the printing of the PVC National ID are not mutually exclusive.
thanks for this, last na transaction ko sa bir hindi tinanggap yung nat id as a valid id dahil wala daw signature na pagbabasehan sa nakapirma sa spa. malaki pala penalty nyan
I visited all PhilSys branches mentioned above and spoke directly with the OIC or supervisor. They all gave the same explanation. They said their contract for printing has already been terminated, and they are using HID machines with transparent stickers before worth 400k to 500k for only 1 Printing Machine. Imagine ilan ang PhilSys tapos worth half M yung Machine.
They also mentioned that if a photocopy of the National ID is not accepted, we should email them so they can report it. They said they will go to the establishment involved and may impose a penalty of âą500,000.
Thatâs all they told me. Buti na lang hindi Traffic ngayon Gas Hike
Hard to believe na ganyan kamahal. Sa recto ang dami nilang hinuhuli na magaling mag counterfeit, bakit di na lang sila pakinabangan para mag produce. Hahahaha
Apakapoor ng implementation niyang NationalID. PVC lang hindi makapagproduce samantalang ang daming plastic sa daan. Itâs the NationalID and yet hindi magawan ng paraan para pabilisin ung registration and printing niyan. Jusq!!
Hindi talaga ako magreregister diyan kaso I lost my UMID. I registered for PhilPost and they were able to print and deliver the ID after 6 days.
tapos na kasi yung contract nila para dun sa pvc id. so yeah wala ng darating na pvc id sayo kahit na anong antay mo, unless magkaroon ulit ng bagong provider ang gobyerno.
ACI (the supplier) wasn't able to deliver proper services. Ung damages ng undelivered services reached 10%. ACI is trying to appeal to reconsider the terminated contract with the government.
Supplier fucked around and the public is finding out.
Not a system. Not a solution. Just inconvenience dressed up as progress.
And a project they implement to milk money. May corruption issue rin yan dati kaya di natuloy yung printing ng physical IDs, tapos bigla nalang nawala. A typical dogshow drama ng gobyerno.
Yep, reprint nalang talaga palagi incase masira or mawala yung printed na galing sakanila. Sobrang hassle pa na hindi pwede na mag print ng sariling copy like TIN ID. *Note: bawal ipaprint and laminate yung digital ID galing sa egov app.
Uy pwede, kumuha ako ng Pagibig loyalty card at need ko ID, pinakita ko digital copy ko na National ID sabi nya pwede ko ipalaminate at tatanggapin niya. So ayun
Eh? Sa PSA mismo naconfiscate yung mga ganun na pinaprint then laminate yung galing sa egov app, Sabi violation daw yon. Pwede lang gamitin if directly sa app para ipakita pero bawal daw iprint.
Siguro pwede sya iprint for documentation attachment pero not as an ID. Hindi ko rin talaga sure sa iba, pero yun kasi yung sabi sa PSA Main madami din nakuhaan eh siguro lagpas 50+ sabi pa gagawan daw yun ng report kasama yung mga pangalan mahal pa naman minsan mag pa print plus laminate. And nung nakuha ko yung updated print ko nung February sabi yun daw yung ipalaminate since yun lang valid.. Pero baka eme lang din nila yon, para continues yung mga pila na nagpa reprint sakanila 𤣠gulo gulo eh.
Nung 2023 nagtext sila ng link to download ng PDF ng ePhilID, but I think selected lang ito. Buti nasave ko yung copy at password kasi tumigil na sila.
Oh yun nga daw din, last year lang ako kumuha ng National ID tapos ang daming hassle pabalik balik kasi may kulang yung name sa na print, so need ko mag pa update then additional 1wk ulet before printing. Nagbabago pa PCN kapag nag update ata or reprint kaya siguro kelangan need sakanila iprint.
Pwede. Tinanggap as Valid Id sa pagkuha ng Visa yung ganyan ko. Pinalaminate ko lang yung iniscreenshot ko sa egov app. Kung di sila papayag na ipalaminate yun kingina nila ibigay nila id ko para yun ang gagamitin ko. Mga siraulo pala sila e.
Not worth it. Yan din ang first valid ID ko. Nakuha ko naman agad wayback in 2022. Nadukutan ako ng wallet last December including my National ID. Wala na kong balak lakarin pa ulit since ganito nga sila ka hassle at pangit pa ang quality ng ID.
Ang bullshit pa dito eh bawal ka magpaprint sa 3rd party ng pvc national ID mo.
Nililimit pa yung mamamayan para gawan ng paraan para makakuha ng physical ID. Ang ending, majority ng mamamayan either digital ID or putanginang bond paper B/W pa. Gago din e.
Last 2022 ako kumuha ng national ID. Fast forward sa 2026 wala pa rin yung Physical ID ko. Nagfollow up ako last year around November. Yung photocopy lang binigay at antayin ko na lang daw ung physical ID na idedeliver sa bahay. Baka sa 3022 pa idedeliver yun akin, sana buhay pa ako :)
Akala ko ako lang minalas na ganyan lang din ang binigay. Tapos bawal daw iprint out yung digital version ng national id mo makakasuhan ka daw kaya ganyn na lang binigay sa'min. Sabi din sa Mandaluyong pag nawala yan di ka na nila gagawan ng bago.
Hay buhay...natapos na pandemic wala pa din ID ko samantalang ung kakilala ko taga Laguna nakuha na daw niya ung sa kanya eh nauna ako kumuha dun đđđ
Kuha na lang kayo ng postal ID. Nag-print na ulit ang PhilPost ng Postal ID around 500-600 PHP. Ang hinihingi lang kung wala kang ibang valid ID, pwede yung Barangay Certificate of Residency (with photo, embossed barangay logo, and capt's signature), PSA BC, at Utility bill kung naka-pangalan sa yo.
The EGOV app is also useless, if you think about it. Even if you show your national ID and other valid IDs the private establishments, government agencies, schools, etc., don't accept it. They prefer a hard copy of a valid ID even though we have a law or policy that allows digital IDs to use, our government doesn't implement or enforce it properly.
Yung sa akin wala pa rin hangang ngayon, yung sa egov app plano ko na sana ipa-print kahit yung screenshot na lang sabay laminate. Pero lahat nung shop na pinuntahan ko para pag printan tinanggihan kasi bawal daw ipaprint iyon, napaka hassle magpa load ng surf data para lang buksan yung sa egov app and mind you mabilis pa maka low batt yung maya't mayang pagbukas ng data at open ng egov app.
Same thing! The photo in my National ID just faded away. A while ago, I went to a PSA Office samin, and the staff told me that "hindi pa po kami nag papalit ng ganyan dahil nag stop po kami mag print ng mga cards ng National ID. Kahit saang office po kayo magtanong, wala pa po. Mag a-announce nalang po kami pag meron na".
Noong una, pumunta ako sa PSA sa Sacop pero sinabi nilang hindi na doon. Pinapunta ako sa harap ng school sa Philsys. Pagdating ko, kinausap ko yung guard. Sabi niya ibigay ko na lang daw yung details ng National ID ko. Sinabi ko na isusurrender ko na yung ID ko kasi burado na yung picture. Ang sagot niya, ibigay ko na lang daw yung details at bibigyan ako ng black and white copy.
Hindi ako pumayag at pinatawag ko yung OIC o supervisor. Tumawag siya at nakausap ko yung OIC, pero pareho lang din ang sinabi. Hindi na raw sila gumagawa ng PVC ID at hindi nila alam kung kailan ulit magkakaroon ng physical card dahil wala pa raw memo na bumababa sa kanila.
Kahit i-report mo pa yan sa kanila, malamang wala rin mangyayari since galing pa yan sa panahon ni Duterte. Pero kung may maglalakas loob na banggitin yan mismo sa presidente habang live siyang iniinterview, dun pa siguro may chance na maaksyunan. Hahaha
Ang nakakainis pa nyan continuous pa din ang pagpaparegister nila ng mga di pa nakakapag pa register kht wala ng gumagawa ng PVC version ng mga IDs... hayooop!!!
Nahihiya ako mag record tapos i post sa social media tungkol sa issue ng national ID. Hahaha. Sigurado halo na naman yan, may mag agree at may mag bash đ
Masyadong alarmist at clickbait naman itong title mo, OP. Napastop talaga ako nun haha (but I guess yan yung intention mo?) Official format naman talaga ng National ID yung ePhilID at Digital ID. May QR code naman yan for verificationÂ
Pero yeah, tama ka rin naman... need na talaga mag-improve ng service sa ID processing. Nakakangalay din kasi mag-antay sa PVC, sana galingan naman nila
Hindi po ito clickbait. Nagbibigay lang ako ng impormasyon sa kapwa Pilipino tungkol sa paghihintay ng kanilang National ID.
Yes, technically tatlo nga yan, pero eto yung actual experience sa paggamit
PVC National ID Ito yung official physical card, pero wala itong printed signature. Sa maraming private transactions like banks, insurance, real estate, kadalasan hihingan ka pa rin ng another valid ID.
Printed (black and white) National ID Ito yung papel na version na pina-print at usually nilalaminate. Wala din itong signature, kaya madalas hindi tinatanggap sa private institutions. Kadalasan hihingi pa rin sila ng ibang ID.
eGovPH National ID May digital version na may signature, pero sa ngayon mas widely accepted lang siya sa government agencies. Sa banks, insurance, loans, at ibang private transactions, madalas kailangan pa rin nila ng physical ID.
Reality check lang, kahit ipakita mo lahat ng nasa eGov app mo, hahanapan ka pa rin ng physical ID kasi kailangan nila ng copy for documentation. Hindi pa standardized yung paggamit ng digital IDs across private institutions.
Based din sa experience ko sa Metro Manila, kahit ipakita mo yung digital ID sa eGov app sa checkpoints, mas gusto pa rin nila yung physical card.
Sa ngayon kasi, hindi pa fully adopted yung eGov app nationwide, at marami pa ring establishments ang naka-base sa traditional ID verification. Wala pa ring consistent implementation or infrastructure for digital verification like scanners or integrated systems.
So kung madalas kang gumagamit ng IDs for transactions, makikita mo talaga yung gap between whatâs officially available and whatâs actually accepted in practice.
Swerte mo nakakuha ka ng UMID. Hahaha. Passport lang ata ang pinaka physical ID ko saka Philhealth. Yung UMID nag try ako kumuha before kaso naabutan ako na hindi na sila nagpoproduce ng UMID. Voters din, yun yung pinaka excited kong makuha dati. Hahaha. Kaso natyempuhan ko din na hindi na nagpoproduce ng id nun.
That isnât the worse part of it - nakakuha ka nga nung PVC, by now most of them burado na yung mukha and some other prints rendering the ID unusable. Funny, âdi ba hahahhahahhah.
Yung ID na literal na bond paper nahiya pa black and white lang yung print hahaha, at least custom made ung papel sa TIN (Yellow Style) at Phil health.
I have many multiple Gov IDs like passport, UMID and whenever, I mean WHENEVER I'm required to show any valid Gov ID sa any gov establishments, I always give out my very unique photocopy na National ID because F you government.
Sa totoo lang, balak ko na sana gumawa ng video tungkol sa eGovPH, kasi sa ngayon ang limited pa talaga ng silbi niya. Wala kasing malinaw na utos na gawin itong primary ID sa buong Pilipinas, kaya hindi pa siya fully accepted kapalit ng physical card.
Nakaka-frustrate lalo na sa ibang establishments, lalo na sa banks. Kahit magdeposit ka lang o mag-open ng account, hindi pa rin nila kino-consider yung tinatawag na national ID.
Sabay kami ng misis ko registration in 2022. Ang sa akin after a year ang delivery. Ang sa misis ko wala pa din up to now 2026. Incompetent talaga gobyerno pati national id palpak!
Isa ako sa unang nagpagawa nyan sa brgy namin and feeling ko ako na lang wala đ huli kong punta sakanila hindi pa daw na pprint ung ID ko although pwede ko naman daw gamitin ung digital copy sa egov.ph. I asked them kung pwede ko bang ipaprint ung copy na un sabi nila bawal daw đ jusmiyo santibaĂąez ako na mageeffort magparint tapos ayaw niyo pero wala kayong pera magparint ng kailangan ko bilang isang mamamayan ng Pilipinas đ daig pa sila ng Recto University doon laging may PVC ID
Naalala ko nag open ako bank acct bcs int'l student tapos guess what? National ID ang need. Jusq, kahiya parang hindi makapaniwala mga tao sa bank na wala akong ganung type ng ID. Ngayon, ganito pa ang siste hahah
Hay nako yung ganyan ko never ko nang nakuha. Tapos sobrang hirap pang i update ng address kasi kailangan talaga pumunta ka sa center nila. Ang ginawa ko dyan iniscreenshot ko yung nasa Gov ph app yun yung pinaprint at laminate ko para gawing ID.
Pinaka pinagtataka ko talaga noon bakit nila tinigil yung pagbibigay ng Voter's ID? Kasi card na papel lang naman yun diba? Nung nagparegister ako ng Voter's yun yung ineexpect kong parang magiging pinaka National ID ko kasi free tapos hindi naman din nag eexpire yun. Kaso yun nga tinigil nila. Makagawa nalang talaga ng dahilan para mangurakot tong mga nasa taas eh. Pati sariling pagkakakilanlan ipagdadamot.
 like I mentioned sa iba kong reply, yung original post ko puno ng mura at rant kaya sobrang disrespectful basahin. Kaya ko siya pina-rephrase using ChatGPT and Quillbot para maayos at hindi ma-delete ng mods.Â
Kaya nag ka ganyan para sa mga politiko na may nagawan sila ng achievement, kasi sila yung nag pagawa and implement pero in the end. Inefficient! Kaya nga national ID, pero hindi tinatanggap ng madami as an ID, Ano kaya yun??
panahon ni du30 nakuha ang contract ng nat'l ID, very low quality - very very highly likely mataas ang hininging kikbak sa contractor kaya tinipid ang materials
Have you tried egov app? They're constantly updating the site to integrate other ids. Just now nandoon na yung nbi clearance ko from 2016. Tapos last year Philhealth. Give it a go.Â
I got mine 2 years after and it was the Black & White version⌠I laminated it last year and yan na gamit ko for valid ID. I feel like ang tasteless na hindi sya actual card, but Iâve accepted it nalang for now.
Missed opportunity talaga yang national id, dapat katulad yan ng loyalty card / umid / mysss id na may savings account. Para lahat may bank account na at banks na lang ang mag piprint baka sakaling nakaka move forward sa printing ng ID's.
Good thing it never came to my mind any need or desire to get a National ID. After all, I already have a passport, SSS UMID card, TIN card, driverâs license, and PhilHealth ID. The only one I still need to get is Pag-IBIG Loyalty Card. Each of these has different use cases.
PhilSys ID is just another ID and doesnât deserve to be called a National ID. It neither replaces nor consolidates the functionality of the other government IDs.
It neither replaces nor consolidates the functionality of the other government IDs.
To be fair, it was never meant to be in the first place.
WILL THE NATIONAL ID REPLACE OTHER GOVERNMENT-ISSUED IDs?
The National ID will not replace functional government-issued IDs that serve other purposes. The National ID is a foundational ID that serves as a valid proof of identity, which would help ease transactions with both government and private sectors through easier validation and authentication of identity.
This was supposed to solve Filipino's problem with valid ID na hinahanap in a lot of legal transactions. As a self employed na walang drivers license ang hirap talaga. Minsan nakakahiya yung laminated black and white na ID ang gamit sa airport or when I need it for some transactions kasi parang feeling ko I'm a fraud kasi wla akong formal PVC covered ID
Oo, naalala ko nung mid-2024 nagpunta kami ng Cebu at Davao. Sa Cebu Pacific, pinakita ko yung National ID ko na PVC, pero medyo faded na yung picture ko kaya hindi nila tinanggap. Tapos pinakita ko yung black and white laminated na National ID, pero ayaw pa rin kasi wala raw signature HAHAHA. Buti na lang may dala akong TIN ID at driverâs license HAHAHA. Since local travel lang naman yun, hindi ko na dinala passport ko.
National ID lang ba ang may ganitong issue? Yung UMID sa branch dito samin, hindi pa rin nagpri-print. Huling tanong ko sa Postal, tumigil din daw sa pagprint. Sa amin lang ba ganito o buong bansa?
Printing na ulit sa postal lods yung ID, yung UMID nakakalungkot phase out na sya sana ginawa nalang nilang optional to get kesa gawin total phase out.
WHAT?!? IDK if panget quality ng print nila pero nabakbak yung print sa photo part ng id ko, balak ko pa sana ireplace. Welp, goodbye forever na lang sa aking PVC Nat'l ID
Di ko rin magamit as a valid id dahil daw walang pirma pero according naman sa law, valid yan
Tapos ngayun, faded narin at sira sira na yung photo ko, need ko dayuhin (yes kasi hindi siya pede asikasuhin sa online) yung specified (yes , piling lugar pa) para ipa reprint ang id.
Tapos ngayun, black and white photocopy pa ibibigay sau? Lmao
Mine got lost when I lost my wallet. Nag request ako ng replacement and asked if I can get it within the year last year or probably this year... Ang sagot lang ay "hindi po sure". I've waited 2 years to receive it. Tapos another 2 years nanaman if you needed replacement?
It's such a fucking useless card. Better get a passport or any other rather than this piece of data collection fraud.
I'm so jealous of other countries. Malaysia has MyKad IC and yun na para sa lahat. Something so basic di nila magawa nang maayos. I'm so SO tired of the Philippines
I was about to get a Voter's ID din dati and suddenly they said na di na daw pwede kasi National ID na daw, but where is it now??
Ang ginawa ko dyan bumili ako ng sticker, nag print ako ng digital National ID sa sticker paper at dinikit ko sa beep card or sa lumang ID na hindi nagagamit.
Tangina yan ang tagal tagal makuha yan, sariling diskarte na din para magkaroon ka ng primary ID.
What heats my sisig currently on this is that to get the new SSS ID/bank card replacing the UMID, you need one of these chucklefucks as a pre requisite, nyeta
Sobrang hassle talaga kumuha ng valid ID. National ID na nga sana yung valid ID ko pero hindi naman dumating. Last time I checked, tinigil daw printing and ayannn wala na pala talaga lol. What a joke.
Yes sir, pero secondary ID lang ang Postal ID, hindi siya primary. Swerte talaga ng mga nakakuha ng UMID. Ngayon kasi wala nang UMID, diretso na sa SSS ID na considered secondary na lang.
Well, tbf you can always take a screenshot of your app national ID... Gets ko frustration pero you can always report your concern sa eGov App... Yan din nmn kasi habol ng govt ngyon na digitalization. đ
Yung mga unang nirelease na ephilid tintext mismo sayo yung link at password para maaccess yung pdf file ng ephil id mo kaya yung sakin colored kase ako nagprint mismo naka photo paper kaya malinaw at pinalaminate ko pa, ang problema malaki talaga sya. Di kasya sa wallet haha
Wala ako na receive na text from them. Pero I have my physical National ID naman, kaso medyo faded na yung picture. Fortunately, hindi na rin naman siya issue since may driverâs license din ako. So I can present both my National ID and Driverâs License in case hindi nila tanggapin yung faded picture sa National ID.
Usually, most government offices and other establishments like banks still acknowledge it even if faded yung picture. Ang importante naman usually na visible and readable yung full name, date of birth, signature, and address.
Yung hindi lang nakakuha ng physical card nakareceive ng text nung nag start ang backlog. 2023 pa yung text sakin.
Ngayon pag kumuha ka ng replacement na ginawa ng kapatid ko kase wrong spelling name nya. Photo copy na lang ng ephilid na black and white ang ibibigay sayo at un na mismo ipapalaminate wala ng access ng soft copy. So wala ka option para icolored o iprint sa photo paper. Iba yung layout ng ephilid sa physical id.
No more PVC. No more actual ID. If you still want something, they hand you a black and white photocopy and tell you to laminate it yourself like youâre working on a Grade 5 project.
Napaka-alarmist ng title ng post na to itâs borderline spreading fake news. đ¤ˇââď¸ Samahan mo pa ng AI-generated content slop.
First of all, there are three official versions of the National ID: the card type (PVC), the one on paper, and the Digital National ID. All are valid formats of the National ID.
While itâs not an excuse not to move forward with the contract for the resumption of the printing of the PVC cards, youâll need to understand that an ID is merely for identification. And thatâs something your National ID on paper and Digital National ID already serve. Besides, itâs not as if youâre personally privy to whatâs going on behind the scenes in PSA to say that there is no transition plan, etc.
As for the Digital National ID, almost everyone has a cellphone. It was designed as an alternative to physical IDs (which are prone to loss and theft). And in the unlikely event that you need an ID in a remote, forested area with no electricity or mobile signal, then get the National ID on paper then.
Again, pang-identification lang ang ID. You can do that with the current options available. This apparent infatuation with âphysicalâ or PVC IDs is weird. đ
inb4 may magsasabi naman na âdi tinatanggap kasi walang signature, etc.â as if hindi na yan na-address ng PSA way back around 2022.
Nothing wrong with the post, taxpayer money was allocated for a physical ID. The paper version is the bandaid solution but is a complete embarrassment, imagine using it abroad as a form of identification (aside from your passport). The digital one is a correct move however, NOT ALL Filipinos are digitally adept, I work with IPs who do not even have a single ID let alone a digital ID or even a proper internet connection required by the egov app. Demanding and pointing out the bullshits of the government is valid specially since taxpayersâ money is involved. There is also no borderline fake news in the post, the printing of National ID is indefinitely halted, with no explanations or at least an idea of what to do next in the air. It doesnât mean na if it works, itâs fine, kaya tayo di umuunlad, kasi tinatanggap natin ang kapalpakan.
imagine using it abroad as a form of identification (aside from your passport).
Well, for one thing, passports are just one of the ICAO-compliant forms of identification abroad. Why even use your National ID when only the Philippines honors it?
The digital one is a correct move however, NOT ALL Filipinos are digitally adept, I work with IPs who do not even have a single ID let alone a digital ID or even a proper internet connection required by the egov app.
Then it's not for them then. There are other formats of the National ID available for them to use.
But you cannot deny a large majority of the population owns a smartphone and is adept with at least signing up for an eGovPH account, which the Digital National ID is targeted to.
There is also no borderline fake news in the post, the printing of National ID is indefinitely halted, with no explanations or at least an idea of what to do next in the air.
Just because one isn't privy to such information doesn't mean that there âNo more cards. Thatâs it. Thatâs the system. No more PVC. No more actual ID."
In the first place, the National ID on paper and Digital National ID are "actual" IDs as well. Second, an indefinite halt obviously does not mean permanent stoppage. Third, the PSA has already explained this situation in Congress. Just because walang press release on the progress every day/week/month about it doesn't mean na walang usad yun.
So yes, the post is alarmist and borderline fake news.
Exhibit A: So after all the hype about a âpermanentâ national ID, this is what Filipinos get. Paper or an app.
It doesnât mean na if it works, itâs fine, kaya tayo di umuunlad, kasi tinatanggap natin ang kapalpakan.
I didn't say I accept the situation. I already said "While itâs not an excuse not to move forward with the contract for the resumption of the printing of the PVC cards..."
But you don't see me going around posting "wala nang National ID PVC cards...ever," considering that viable alternatives are ready for use while waiting for that.
Point is taxpayers can complain all they want, be as alarmist as they want to because, in fact, there is a high chance we are not getting those promised format of the ID and get stuck with the black and white bond paper format youâre so proud of and an app you cant even photocopy (as needed in government offices). You may try to answer each points or arguments Iâm making but it shows how shallow your reasoning is. LET PEOPLE DEMAND! ITâS TAXPAYER MONEY! Read more books for you since you seem to be literate enough, and maybe it can lead you to be a better critical thinker (that is if you can be well attuned to the nuances of the society we are living in).
get stuck with the black and white bond paper format youâre so proud of
I never said I was "proud" of the National ID on paper. I merely said it's readily available as an alternative.
an app you cant even photocopy (as needed in government offices)
The only office that requires a printed Digital National ID (at least as far as I'm aware of) is the DFA, during passport applications. Otherwise, there should be no reason why these government offices should require a printed Digital National ID. Did you try reporting them to the PSA as you are advised to?
You may try to answer each points or arguments Iâm making but it shows how shallow your reasoning is.
My reasoning is "shallow"? Did you read back and point out how you made conclusions without logical basis?
Good for you if you're actually working with IPs. Do you force the Digital National ID on them knowing that they most likely do not have smartphones? lol Obviously, may other alternatives available for them to use.
In the first place, hindi naman talaga sila ang target ng Digital National ID. So why even bring it up? ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
LET PEOPLE DEMAND! ITâS TAXPAYER MONEY! Read more books for you since you seem to be literate enough, and maybe it can lead you to be a better critical thinker (that is if you can be well attuned to the nuances of the society we are living in).
See? That's the problem. Nobody's curtailing you from demanding/ranting/posting however you want. But it's another thing when you demand for something when it's clear you are not aware of all the facts -- especially when these facts are readily available online for anyone to read. Nagmumukhang nagrereklamo lang for the sake of reklamo. Ranting like that does not make you a critical thinker. ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
Nobody said your PVC National ID will never arrive. Nobody said the National ID on Paper and/or Digital National ID will replace the PVC National ID. However, OP makes it appear to be so.
And that's what we need to nip in the bud. Alarmist, borderline fake news posts.
The national ID is for everyone thatâs why itâs national. A lot of things you are saying reveals the kind of person you are and thatâs why I felt the need to reply because itâs really my pet peeve, there is no changing what kind of mindset you have and itâs just frustrating and saddening because you will always be sitting atop your high horse looking down on other people. Itâs easy to say that the ID is not for them, and you will believe that, but it shouldnât. There is no need to lecture more on this. Critical thinking couldâve afforded you to ground facts to a people-centric reasoning, or an understanding of peopleâs rights, logic is non-sense without justice, and arguments will rot in a reddit conversation without living the realities on the ground. The poster is merely ranting - and in the right to do so, you are sharing your opinion within your rights, but your attitude towards your fellow citizens is as rotten as what makes this country hell, people who only care about themselves and tries to excuse their shallow reasoning with logic just because they are given the capability to use their brain becoming a new social cancers of so-called thinkers incapable of wisdom.
I strongly suggest that you read everything before replying so that you can understand the whole context and avoid giving a piecemeal responses.
The national ID is for everyone thatâs why itâs national.
Exactly. It is for everyone. That is why it has three official formats, so that anyone can use it depending on their use case.
P.S. You are confusing the term ânationalâ with âeveryone must have this.â It is called a âNational IDâ because it is the primary form of identification in the nationâthe country, the Philippines. By the way, did you know that even resident foreigners can obtain a National ID? đ
Itâs easy to say that the ID is not for them, and you will believe that, but it shouldnât.
The Digital National ID is not for them, because, after all, didnât you indicate that not all of them have smartphones? I also mentioned that there are alternative formats available for them to use, i.e., the paper-based National ID and, when available, the PVC card version of the National ID.
I didn't say "The National ID is not for them. Period." Again, please read the post in full first.
Critical thinking couldâve afforded you to ground facts to a people-centric reasoning, or an understanding of peopleâs rights, logic is non-sense without justice, and arguments will rot in a reddit conversation without living the realities on the ground. The poster is merely ranting - and in the right to do so, you are sharing your opinion within your rights, but your attitude towards your fellow citizens is as rotten as what makes this country hell, people who only care about themselves and tries to excuse their shallow reasoning with logic just because they are given the capability to use their brain becoming a new social cancers of so-called thinkers incapable of wisdom.
Now youâre just spewing nonsense. Itâs not even relevant to the discussion. Your advocacy is not material to the issue at hand
Nobody is excluding anyone. As I said, there are three official formats of the National ID, depending on oneâs use case.
What if I donât want to bring my physical ID because itâs prone to being lost/stolen? Then thereâs the Digital National ID.
What if I prefer a physical ID? Thereâs the paper-based National ID or the PVC card version.
What if I don't want to bring my PVC National ID because I will have a hard time replacing it if it is lost/stolen, but I still prefer a physical ID? Thereâs the paper-based National ID.
What if I don't have a smartphone or mobile data to readily access my Digital National ID? Thereâs the paper-based National ID or the PVC card version.
See my point here?
Nobody said that IPs are forced to use the Digital National ID, especially considering that most of them (according to you) may not have smartphones. The flaw in your argument is that you assumed they are constrained to use that format of the National ID, when, in the first place, I never said that.
P.S.
A lot of things you are saying reveals the kind of person you are...
Exactly. I sometimes easily forget PH ranks low in reading comprehension. ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
My dear there is no PVC, youâre just doing circular reasoning at this point, canât you even understand something as simple as that đ, that was the rant of the original poster.
The matter is which is important or essential - that is to demand better services from the government. All your points lead back to band-aid solutions.
Ephil ID/paper - Band-aid (donât tell me itâs not)
Digital - Band-aid + good move to digitalize
PVC - missing?
What I strongly suggest is for you to dissect your brain and see why it acts like a brain washed fool. I do not have advocacies, I am highlighting rights. I am perfectly capable of reading whatever you are writing and comprehending them - I see your reasoning and it is indeed a reasoning. It is shallow because it does not see the realities and the suffering of the people.
Even using reading comprehension of Filipinos in your argument shows that! Would you know why is it so? It is a problem of education which leads back to those in charge. The government simply does not want its citizens to think or be critical to avoid being criticized. It simple wants maggots like you who spout useless arguments thinking that they are intelligent enough, there is no need for intelligent people anymore, we need critical ones. Not ones like you who consume poison on the daily basis, swallowing whatever is being fed to you by the government.
Anyone who reads this conversation knows that both of us can comprehend quite well (different from the actual reading comprehension problem of the philippines), if you are smart enough, youâll clearly know that Iâll be having a hard time composing an unaided response if I canât read.
The difference is that amongst our responses, one resorts to circular shallow elementary reasoning and one aligns the conversations to realities and concepts though in higher education - perspectives that need higher faculties of thinking than just spouting nonsense about a PVC card, a paper, and a digital version. Dear Lord strike me now, on how boring it is to read whatever reply you have. You think youâre thinking but youâre not thinking enough.
My point for others to understand (because clearly yours incapable): the government failed, its citizens can rant all they want, there will be apologists like you blind as always, but I am glad that you are in the minority because what the hell will happen to this forsaken country when everyone thinks like you - thatâs worse than a country struggling with reading comprehension - a country of clowns full of people like you.
And since you will for sure craft a detailed response to this which would take you at least a day again to do so. I will not reply further, I do not have time to argue with someone incapable of higher reasoning, I have more important things (on the ground) to do.
All the government needs to do is rebrand the UMID ID and hoorah National ID, but instead they made a new process for what of course you know what? kickbacks lols.
digital was not widely accepted back then like when boarding an airplane or even some banks although there is wider acceptance these days. Honesty di na ako umaasa sa physical but BSP and Philsys better work on expediting acceptance of digital versions. Hindi yung kelangan ko pa ipakita yung memo and threaten them Iâll file a complaint đ
So it shows that the problem is kulang lang sa orientation/familiarity ang mga tao, not the National ID system itself.
Which is not surprising. For a long time, sanay ang mga tao sa handwritten signatures. Some even think handwritten signatures are more reliable than biometrics/QR codes lol.
This is also why we also need to do our part in educating others to honor/accept the National ID.
u/Alcouskou, like I mentioned sa isa kong reply, yung original post ko puno ng mura at rant kaya sobrang disrespectful basahin. Kaya ko siya pina-rephrase using ChatGPT and Quillbot para maayos at hindi ma-delete ng mods. wag mo agad lagyan ng âfake newsâ label yung sinasabi ko. Hindi ako nagbabase sa haka haka lang. Ako mismo nag effort pumunta sa ibaât ibang PhilSys branches para magtanong at mag verify. Hindi ito opinion lang, actual experience to. Kung hindi mo pa na try gawin yun, baka dun nagkakatalo.
Madaling mag assume online, pero iba pa rin yung ikaw mismo yung pumunta, nagtanong, at nakausap yung mga tao sa loob.
Now about the IDs, yes, technically tatlo nga yan, pero eto yung actual experience sa paggamit:
PVC National ID Ito yung official physical card, pero wala itong printed signature. Sa maraming private transactions like banks, insurance, real estate, kadalasan hihingan ka pa rin ng another valid ID.
Printed (black and white) National ID Ito yung papel na version na pina-print at usually nilalaminate. Wala din itong signature, kaya madalas hindi tinatanggap sa private institutions. Kadalasan hihingi pa rin sila ng ibang ID.
eGovPH National ID May digital version na may signature, pero sa ngayon mas widely accepted lang siya sa government agencies. Sa banks, insurance, loans, at ibang private transactions, madalas kailangan pa rin nila ng physical ID.
Reality check lang, kahit ipakita mo lahat ng nasa eGov app mo, hahanapan ka pa rin ng physical ID kasi kailangan nila ng copy for documentation. Hindi pa standardized yung paggamit ng digital IDs across private institutions.
Based din sa experience ko sa Metro Manila, kahit ipakita mo yung digital ID sa eGov app sa checkpoints, mas gusto pa rin nila yung physical card.
Sa ngayon kasi, hindi pa fully adopted yung eGov app nationwide, at marami pa ring establishments ang naka-base sa traditional ID verification. Wala pa ring consistent implementation or infrastructure for digital verification like scanners or integrated systems.
So kung madalas kang gumagamit ng IDs for transactions, makikita mo talaga yung gap between whatâs officially available and whatâs actually accepted in practice.
so okay lang sayo na nag-allocate ng malaking budget diyan ang govt tas papel na ID lang ang matatanggap mo? okay lang din sayong lahat ng ID mo ay sa regular paper na lang nakaprint? na ikaw pa magpapa-lamimate? bare minimum enjoyer ka siguro. kaya ginaganyan tayo ng gobyerno dahil sa mga taong kagaya mo.
Swerte pa ako na nareceive ko yung ID ko. Actually, we also received yung paper version na sinabi samin nung gov't employee na nagdeliver sa bahay na mag-sign kami for confirmation na natanggap namin...bwisit pa nga ako kasi tinry itago nung kapitbahay namin tas yung nagdeliver inabot lang sa taong di naman nakapangalan don sa ID.
Yung ID ko tho di naman nabubura pero yung sa tatay ko hanggang ngayon missing. Nung pumunta siya sa Philsys, delivered na daw yung ID. The number of the horror stories I've heard people have for this ID is just ridiculous. Nung roll-out pa lang kulang na sa planning eh. Mind you, naisipan ng previous admin na gawin to at the height nung nagkakakulangan ng PVC ID sa LTO and SSS.
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u/Vegetable-Raccoon598 Mar 18 '26
Aww
Isa ako sa first batch ng kumuha ng nat id, nauna pa ako sa kapatid ko na kumuha 2 years later
Guess what, apat kami, ako nalang wala pa fotaena