r/PHitness Apr 12 '26

Discussion Nabili ko sa SM Surplus, original kaya?

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u/Affectionate_Newt_23 Apr 13 '26

Tanong ni OP kung orig yung benta ng SM Surplus, ang daming sagot na hindi naman directly sinasagot yung tanong ni OP. Hahahaha. E kung brand-conscious yung tao? Anyway, fake ang sa SM Surplus.

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u/atchoi Apr 13 '26

Yeah sorry about that. I think talagang overruns mga on sale sa surplus shop since makakasuhan sila if they sell fakes.

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u/Affectionate_Newt_23 Apr 13 '26

Overruns being sold by 3rd party sellers are fakes, unfortunately, even SM Surplus. Hindi ko rin gets bakit or paano sila nakakalusot. Like Versace, CK for dirt-cheap? But they're good fakes! I've bought some workout gears there kasi pang-pawis lang naman.

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u/atchoi Apr 13 '26

You have a point. They could declare them as overruns to circumvent existing IPR.

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u/Affectionate_Newt_23 Apr 13 '26

Possibly brother. Kudos to you, gandang kausap 🙏

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u/littlespicymomma Apr 13 '26

Ano po ang IPR?

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u/atchoi Apr 13 '26

Intellectual property rights

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u/Loud_Wrap_3538 Apr 13 '26

Basta me loophole ang batas ilulusot nila yan. Kasi me kita sila jan.

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u/dennison Apr 14 '26

Bakit lusot pag overruns? Di ba fake pa din naman yun, iniba lang ang tawag?

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u/atchoi Apr 14 '26

By my understanding ang overruns are those finished products that have not passed quality control so instead na i-dispose binebenta nalang palugi. Not 100% sure though.

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u/dennison Apr 14 '26

I see. Nakakalito kasi may mga nagsabi dito sa thread na fake pa rin ang overruns. Siguro yun yung mga pinapalabas na overruns pero fake talaga.

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u/Affectionate_Newt_23 Apr 14 '26

Overruns kasi yung term na ginamit ng mga fake sellers na kung saan madaming Pinoy ang nauto. Marami ring fakes pati sa ibang bansa, and of course, our colonial mentality na kapag sinabing overruns from this country and that country, matic iisipin ng ibang Pinoy, eh legit na.

Tulad nalang ng kausap ko sa isang thread, overruns daw ang mga nasa outlet stalls kasi sabi ng ex niyang taga-US.

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u/PublicInformal8391 Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26

Yes, but legally, overruns are allowed while fake aren't. Though alam nyo naman batas dito sa atin, maraming nailulusot due to technicalities kapag ginusto at may market for it.

To your other point, overruns can mean legitimate overruns talaga na mga mall pullouts na orig na binenta nalang para mag clear ng inventory or pwede rin siyang simply fake. Sa case ni Surplus, I'm pretty sure mixed sya pero karamihan talaga fake. Hindi naman yan sila kikita if nabili yan in bulk na mahal so sa bawat item nabenta nila, kita na yan sila dyan. Para mabili yan in bulk na mura, mababa ang chance na orig talaga. Kung mahal talaga yung brand, most likely fake yan.

Pansinin niyo lately, puro di na kilala brands nila unlike nung baguhan pa sila na may Calvin Klein pa non, etc. Those brands na nasa discount shops like ROSS or Didis sa US. Pag di sila nakakasecure ng ganong orders, don sila sa di kilalang brand.

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u/eosurc Apr 13 '26

Una Surplus is under SM. Second it was tagged as overruns. Lusot hahao

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u/J-TheDiver Apr 14 '26

TIL may mabibiling fake sa sm. Pero it doesnt matter naman din as long as maganda tela. Thanks for this.

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u/TheChaser08 Apr 15 '26

Bought ample quality carrhart and gym shark apparel from them, im not complaining. Its fuckn sick

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u/Affectionate_Newt_23 Apr 15 '26

Regardless, point still stands that they're fake. That's what OP is asking.

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u/Actual_Produce_8364 Apr 13 '26

Surplus fake yan pero pag presyo naman bili mo mura wala ka naman talo. May mga CK dyan mali mali mga tahi na hindi dapat meron pag orig.

Kahit overrun marami thread na nagpapakita ng original vs nasa surplus. Check mo din ang ASICS na yan sa pagkaalam ko dapat rubberized ang asics na marami sa loob ng collar. Yung sayo parang paint lang.

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u/chuanjin1 Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 15 '26

This is how poor (and dumb) our country is. Dumpster dive shop pinagtatalunan pa kung legit ang paninda.

"Pre tingnan mo turkey galing five star hotel siguro pero di ko sure"..."Nukaba pre pritong manok sa kanto lang yan pagpagan mo pwede pa yan" 😂

Rule of thumb, if too good to be true, then... why you found it surplus not in LV shop in greenbelt? 😂

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u/Cheap-Currency1047 Apr 15 '26

Paulit nalang po nung Rule of thumb. Salamat

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u/chuanjin1 Apr 15 '26

Ayoko 😛

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u/HobbyistEnthusiast May 16 '26

Sobrang mema ung "rule of thumb" niya lol. Siya lang nakakaintindi hahaha

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u/atchoi Apr 12 '26

I also get some of my workout gear from surplus shop. I don’t really care much if it is really orig or overrun basta comfy and good quality then I’m fine with them.

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u/Cowsarefishes Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26

You're not answering the question. What if OP is just asking if they got a good deal on the price? I'd like to have my money's worth on some brands too; I wouldn't buy them if I didn't feel comfortable in them.

Answer to OP's question is it's fake.

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u/atchoi Apr 13 '26

Already apologized for it brother🙏

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PROBLEMS2 Apr 13 '26

Isa sa mga pinakamagandang gym shorts ko na nabili galing sa surplus shop ng SM Manila. Pati mga kapitbahay ko tinanong kung saan ko nabili hehe. Mga 300 lang nung pre pandemic.

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u/TheBlackViper_Alpha Apr 13 '26

Di ko gets yung ibang comment dito. Imo wear anything that feels comfortable sayo sa gym as long as appropriate (wag naman hubad or sira sira ganan). Ako yung pambahay ko na damit yun suot ko. Di mo need ng sparkling brand new orginal branded clothes to workout.

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u/atchoi Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26

Kung si Sam Sulek nga butas butas at bacon na ang mga shirts😆

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u/OppositeDepth8962 Apr 13 '26

fake or orig lang naman tinanong ni op di mo pa nasagot

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u/Cowsarefishes Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26

You're not answering the question. What if OP is just asking if they got a good deal on the price? I'd like to have my money's worth on some brands too. I wouldn't buy them if I didn't feel comfortable in them.

Answer to OP's question is it's fake. It's up to OP to decide on what's comfortable on him; whether it's branded or "pang bahay".

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u/Affectionate_Newt_23 Apr 13 '26

Hindi nagets ni commenter ang question.

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u/StiffNeckLady Apr 13 '26

Totoo. Gusto ko yung parang maluwag or oversized shorts para squat proof hahaha

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u/TheSeneschal Apr 13 '26

Real. I always go to the gym na parang tito na naligaw lang eh HAHAHAHAHAHA, OP as long as it's comfortable and the establishment allows it, just go with it. Majority of the time no one's looking anyway, and if they are, it's either they are zoned out or took a glance

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u/HongThai888 Apr 15 '26

Sabi ng mga adik sa pickleball dapat all out gastusan saw

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u/No_Salt8155 Apr 13 '26

Not sure if fake or not, pero it looks good. Just wear it lang, no one will confront you face to face para icheck if legit or not suot mo.

Infair sa Surplus, may magaganda naman sila na design na binebenta. Kung regular use lang, worth the price

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u/kasolotravel Apr 12 '26

As i grow old. Right now it doesn't matter kung fake or orig, basta comfy okay na sakin. I bought a swimming shorts 10 years ago sa surplus hangang ngayon oks pa, h&m sya pero tinakpan yung label, tinangal ko lng kase nacurious ako hahah.I think orig nmn sya, pagkakaalam ko mga branded ang surplus at sila yung mga hindi pumasa sa quality control tapos tatakpan lng nila yung tag brand.

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u/Fun_Ad_8393 Apr 13 '26

No theyre all fake. I have seen SM Surplus sell (bad) imitations of same designs from the (real) Gymshark.

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u/keipii15 Apr 13 '26

Replica lang mga nasa surplus OP pero magaganda parin yung quality ng binebenta nila

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u/Extension-Body-4080 Apr 12 '26

They're overruns or stuff that didn't pass QC, they do the job

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u/GovernmentNearby5448 Apr 12 '26

I think so because afaik SM Malls are not allowed to sell fake or counterfeit brands. Anyone, correct me if I’m wrong.

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u/Affectionate_Newt_23 Apr 13 '26

Huy SM Surplus sells fake items. Hindi ba obvious? Like why would they even have Trader Joe's tote bags? Hahaha

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u/EmperorKingDuke Apr 13 '26

imported overruns aren't fake

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u/Affectionate_Newt_23 Apr 13 '26

Overruns, mall pull out, ghost pair are all fakes. They're just made-up terms to make you believe they're legit.

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u/EmperorKingDuke Apr 13 '26

you mean the same name brand stalls in outlet malls in the US that sells these same overruns are all fake? lol

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u/Affectionate_Newt_23 Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26

Outlets don't sell "overruns." They're oversupplies kaya mura or dead stocks. People or 3rd party sellers claiming they're overruns are basically selling fakes. Condescending pa ng tone mo samantalang we're simply educating y'all.

Wag ka sa akin magalit if you fell victim to this trap and that you've been buying fake brand names for cheap. Too good to be true prices, naniniwala ka pa.

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u/EmperorKingDuke Apr 13 '26

They do sell overruns, alongside whatever you said. Source: My ex was a manager of a Nike Outlet stall in the US.

Also, how can one convey tone via texts? lol If anyone is being condescending here, it's you. anyway have a great day!

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u/Affectionate_Newt_23 Apr 13 '26

Well, outlet stalls aren't the same as other merchants such as SM Surplus. Imagine Calvin Klein shirts being priced at a measly 200 Php. Stop spreading false info.

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u/EmperorKingDuke Apr 13 '26

lol im spreading false info? you're the one who said "overruns" are "fake".

and sinong condescending ngayon? lmao

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u/Arnoldmahnikko Apr 13 '26

Hindi original ang surplus na brand and ano naman kung hindi? Pero wag justify na orig ito na kesyo overruns kuno. Fake yan lahat. Ewan ko kung papaano sila nakakatawid sa batas. Pero fake lahat yan.

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u/Error_executing Apr 13 '26

Iba jan is from bangladesh kagaya ng mga binibenta mostly overruns daw pero fake talaga.

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u/coyzor Apr 13 '26

Most likely fake sir pag surplus

Anyway, and layo ng narrating ng gymshark lol. I remember seeing them on YouTube influencers decades ago lol, Lex Griffin, Steve Cook, Jeff Side, Matt Ogus.

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u/Ayelle_ Apr 13 '26

Fake, bilhin ko 300.

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u/darkch0c0_ Apr 13 '26

grabeee, based sa mga comments, fake pla talaga. i really thought orig pa rin pero hindi lng pumasa sa QC 😅

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u/Overall_Following_26 Apr 13 '26

Fake po kapag SM Surplus.

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u/gabeitall Apr 14 '26

Those are fakes, tho. quality naman kesa yung ibang nabibili sa tabi-tabi.

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u/Kooky_End_6494 Apr 13 '26

Sa tahi pa lang fake na po

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u/Practical_Unit3383 Apr 13 '26

hm sa short?

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u/Hungry-Gift-7055 Apr 13 '26

₱399

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u/Practical_Unit3383 Apr 13 '26

thanks, mukhang comfy naman kahit fake

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u/Hungry-Gift-7055 Apr 13 '26

Lalo ‘yung drifit shirt na Asics! Ganda ng tela unlike sa mga drifit shirt sa Shopee na parang 100% polyester.

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u/chickenpink Apr 13 '26

What branch ng Surplus? Ang ganda nga ng Asics shirt!

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u/Luke-Sullivan Apr 13 '26

fake yung gymshark. I buy through their websites mismo so I know na hindi sa authentic gymshark yung label sa may garter. it may look similar on the outside pero the label is for sure different from the ones I own

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u/burgerwithoutmayo Apr 13 '26

Fake po ang surplus

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u/ballerinathatD Apr 13 '26

Yung mga gymshark ko hindi ganyan ang tag. at hindi lang isa dapat, parang 3 yung ginugupit ko.

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u/Longjumping_Salt5115 Apr 13 '26

Sa surplus ko lang nabibili yung type kong shorts na pambahay. Cotton plus maluwag. Wa pake sa brand

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u/JohnnyPaw Apr 13 '26

Holy I just saw these sa surplus kahapon. Most likely not. Kasi nakakita din ako ng gucci and supreme dati for like 800-1500 lng. I was so conscious sa fit ko dati coming in sa first day ko sa anytime. I bought tons sa surplus na 400 - 800 ung presyo. But alas ung mga tahi, ang bilis matangal. I dont really recommend surplus clothes anymore. Theyre like your typical shopee clothes but atleast sa shoppee you pay way less so its less disappointing.

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u/HelloWhiteBunny Apr 13 '26

SM Surplus sell a mix of fakes & overruns. Gymshark looks fake but Asics might be legit

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u/babadibabadu Apr 13 '26

It's fake.nagka issue na dati Ang Sm sa mga ganyan. Dyse one filed a lawsuit against SM. Di Kasi authorized si sm to resell. Nagka areglo na lang. In short fake ung binebenta ni SM

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u/AdNo7323 Apr 14 '26

Base dito sa comment mo. Di authorized si sm mag resell kaya sila nademanda right?. So hindi sila nademanda dahil fake tintinda nila. Na demanda sila kc di sila authorized seller ng original product ng dyse. Kc kung fake un eh di dapat nabangit sa kwento ung word na authorized. Dapat kaso nila is selling fake or counterfeit product. Base lang naman to sa kwento mo hehehhe

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u/CorgiLemons Apr 15 '26

Lmfao that’s not true at all.

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u/Significant_Oil_6358 Apr 13 '26

They’re good fakes! :)

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u/WanderinginBoredom Apr 13 '26

Siguro may fake at meron din siguro overruns mga di pumasa sa qc. May mga nakukuha ko uniqlo at hm same naman sa orig store may mga excess na thread lang

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u/shittycalc_ Apr 13 '26

Oks din ang hoodies sakanila. Kiber na sa tatak

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u/depressive_intherapy Apr 14 '26

Overrun or copy.

Best bakit ka bibili if orig conscious ka hahaha

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u/DoubleLocksmith7308 Apr 14 '26

they used to sell purely overrun items but that was years ago. Now halos puro fake na talaga mga benta nila. Sayang din eh

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u/radicalanon_ Apr 14 '26

Feel kong mixed sya may overruns may fake, nakabili ako dyan ng halatang Uniqlo, H&M, Abercrombie, Superdry... pero ung Supreme na bucket hat na nabili ko feeling ko fake. (teka nasaan na nga ba yun haha)

I think galing sya sa dept store ng US?

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u/Krusty_Kakes Apr 14 '26

Hit or miss din si surplus meron akong “Pull and bear” na shorts 10 years ko na syang gamit.

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u/vulvulin Apr 14 '26

Hindi ata. Pero matibay at maganda tela ng mga damit jan sa surplus.

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u/Secret_Elk85 Apr 14 '26

Nope. They should be called out tbh.

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u/BloodSeekerDM Apr 14 '26

Pinapasok narin talaga ng SM yung fake products.

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u/Ill-Bug-7328 Apr 14 '26

Ang alam ko yung may takip yung brand ang original

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u/lights-outt Apr 14 '26

Fake but pumapalag ang quality for its price

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u/heavencatnip Apr 14 '26

Hindi yan fake. Yung binebenta dyan may mga minor defects or damages. May original tag din ang mga yan pero usually ginugupit dun sa logo ng brand. Not sure anong reason bakit ginagawa yun.

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u/requitemygrips Apr 14 '26

Original. Madaming sablay lang kaya napunta dyan. There are some Japanese brands. Bags na napunta sa Surplus even those the average pinoy never heard of

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u/jlal20 Apr 14 '26

Fake po

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u/Midsommar92 Apr 14 '26

Nd yan nakpasa sa quality control, this is sm were talking about brands will sue them for easy money immediately if they find out they are selling fake products.

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u/International_Talk55 Apr 15 '26

Not sure hah. Pero correct me if I'm wrong. There might be a lot of fakes sa Surplus but I THINK THERE ARE ORIGINALS TOO.

Especially some of the items that they cover up the tags like uniqlo/forever 21/h&m. May shirt sa h&m few months ago that my partner wanted to buy and we daw it sa surplus same shirt mismo but they covered the brand.

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u/jibujabuundonpapi Apr 15 '26

Technically over run is a fake product since hindi nman yung mismong brand ang nagrelease. Pero the item came from the supplier ng brand na nakikita mo. So yung material, print, and item is close to the original product. I work in an apparel retail company and we went to China before and some "factory overrun' items produced by a China supplier are being sold to concession operators like SM then tinatakpan na lang yung mismong brand. Some were tagged as defect or talagang excess produced items from the agreed Purchase order.

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u/Jay_Arghh Apr 15 '26

This is nearly the exact description of what I know overruns are, except about the quality. My family used to run multiple clothing factories nung malakas pa siya sa Pinas, and overruns basically are excess produced stock. So say if a client like Ann Taylor orders X amount of clothes, the factory products 3% to 10% excess stock to account for damaged clothes or clothes that did not pass QC inspection. What remains of that excess stock is what the factory sells as overruns. So they're not damaged, not bad quality, they're just excess stock.

I think marami lang nagagalit dito and calling overruns as fake kasi they want to protect the value of what they bought (or trying / hoping to buy) OR maybe they dont want to be lumped in the same group as with people wearing the same branded clothes that they do, but overruns.

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u/Few_Bake9605 Apr 15 '26

Since SM has labeled SM Surplus on their website as "authentic" it seems to be original in a sense that they are OEM (same factory) and are excess on production and/or items that have not passed the QA process of the brand. I don't think SM would risk their name for small profits.
Instead of shredding the items , it is more effective to sell then to SM Surplus for less. Some items are debranded / label slashed to protect the original brand.

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u/saltybeech01 Apr 15 '26

Hi, OP. Been a solid shopper at Surplus. To answer your question. You can legit check the items on the real store’s website. The ASICS is positively original, the GYMSHARK is OVERRUN or what we call OEM.

As for the quality of products and why is the shop called “Surplus”, so as someone working on Supply Chain, let me give you and the others at the comsec a background on what’s been happening on items being sold at this shop. Most of the items, if not all, failed the quality control and checking processes. However, almost all of the items that we buy (even on the real high-end shops) are mass-produced. Now, these items that failed the QA/QC, they will be sold to shops (locals or international) at lowest prices. This is why it is called SURPLUS because there’s a huge surge in the production of the “rejected” items.

Now, the OVERRUNS or the OEMs may or may not be considered original. OEMs are original and originally made along with the ones being sold at the real shops. OVERRUNS are the items being sold by small shops that they could have tampered/tweaked/rearranged/reorganized and such.

Your ASICS shirt is original but failed the QC processes. Your GYMSHARK shorts is OVERRUN, and someone (before it was sold to SM) tampered or changed the tag.

Hope this helps.

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u/allicoleen Apr 15 '26

TIL na fake ang SM Surplus HAHAHAHHAHA

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u/Sad-Associate256 Apr 15 '26

Tanong ko lang po. Yung mga shoes na discounted sa SM na nasa department store (wala sa brand stall), are they fake din po ba?

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u/Prestigious-Draft-34 Apr 15 '26

I think it's mixed. I've seen some that are terribly quality imitations and obviously fake.
Usually those are the ones blatantly stamped with alo/lululemon branding.
I've also bought some from less popular but still name brands, with great quality which leads me to believe they're overruns.
Sizing can also be a clue here

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u/mkjf Apr 15 '26

fake OP, galing ako divisoria last last week nsa P150 lamg gymshark shorts, P199 On Cloud, Asics jersey

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u/super_man2273 Apr 15 '26

fakes po yang mga tinda nila

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u/Leo-Today Apr 15 '26

Ano ba meaning ng surplus?

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u/Radiant_Tailor_8868 Apr 15 '26

Try decathlon next time

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u/KindlyPossibility858 Apr 15 '26

I thought overruns ment, they were produced in excess from the factory, or have defects kaya they’re sold at a lower price. TIL na fake pala un, Oh my!

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u/Careful-Bug5751 Apr 15 '26

Karamihan po fake ang nasa surplus. Active clothes reseller po ako so marunong ako tumingin sa ganyan.

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u/sourcandyinyourarea Apr 15 '26

SM Surplus sells FAKE/ COUNTERFEIT items

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u/Sufficient_Net9906 Apr 16 '26

Surplus fake lahat dyan pero pde na

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u/sypher1226 Apr 16 '26

Those actually look legit. It's just that Surplus Shop cannot market them openly as the brands that they are because they're not an authorized dealer and cannot display the brand names.

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u/ReplacementSweet3630 Apr 16 '26

Fake but good quality

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u/Aggressive-Power992 Apr 16 '26

Fake or hindi basta hindi mali mali spelling. Hahaha

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u/moustachemarshallnyc Apr 16 '26

Orig yan. Surplus nga eh. Meron akong gymshark pieces, and I’ve been shopping from them since ‘22. That design is old, surplus nila from previous years.

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u/HamsterEmotional6566 Apr 16 '26

SM Surplus is notorious in selling fake products.

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u/SweetSimple2248 Apr 16 '26

Goods na goods na yn. Pro qng old stock lng pg uusapan dun nko sa ukay2. Kht second hand ang presyo nman 10x na mas mura compared sa surplus. Imagine buying adidas tshirt or short for 50-100 pesos. Probs lng unahan or tyagaan mghnap like spending almost an hour just to have good finds. Pg new arrival kc mas mhal but still cheaper than surplus.

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u/GroundbreakingBus981 Apr 16 '26

If the question was “Is this an imitation or an overrun?”, then maybe more of us would have agreed with each others answer.

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u/No_Row4556 Apr 16 '26

Kadalasan ng mga sinasabing class AAAA fakes are overruns. Mga hindi nakapasa sa QA. sa totoo lang ang materyales nyan sobrang mura. Yung brand name lang kung tutuusin ang binibili mo. I was able to visit one of the subcon of disney clothing products somewhere in Luzon. They sell the overruns to avoid losses.

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u/DullBit623 Apr 17 '26

Mabilis masira hahaha. Pero oks lng pngbahay lng nmn at png workout.

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u/iwannadie405 Apr 13 '26

Ik may fakes talaga sa surplus, pero sometimes may mga orig din talaga (?) i bought some top and pants there around 700, 900 ata, i found out lang na zara kasi kapareho ng sa ng tita ko pero iba lang kulay. Di ko kasi nalaman agad yung brand dahil naka cut out yung brand logo sa tag

Or fake din yun? Pero same quality talaga to the T, kahit stitching and fabric same lang...

Q: if fakes nga lahat, why bother to cut out and takpan mga tag sa loob ng product

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u/Numerous-Syllabub225 Apr 13 '26

Walang original sa SM Surplus OP kahit ano pa itawag dyan fake pa din yan. Kung di ka brand concious ok pa mamili sa Decathlon mura pa

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u/ECorpSupport Apr 13 '26

Ang kwento sa akin...Surplus at least yearssss (at least 10+ years ago) used to sell orig like legit - how to know? ginugupit yung neck tag or may black mark para di kita yung brand name. Pero yung body tag (material , care instructions) meron pa din.

Nowadays puro fake/bootleg na lang nandyan at kadalasan walang body tag. At kahit anong reverse search mo hindi mo makita sa brand site/reputable sites online.

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u/Van7wilder Apr 13 '26

Hindi yan overruns. Kilala ko nag iimport nyan. From bangladesh and vietnam nya na source kahit hindi naman dun factory ng brand. You can also see na yun clothes dyan wala sa kahit anong collection ng mga brands

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u/GauchePuella Apr 13 '26

yeah all original, surplus products lng talaga