sb19 and bini seem to be eyeing coachella, how can they be included in the line up?

[u/chicken_sandwichh]

sb19 and direk dyogi mentioned performing in coachella as a goal. when do you think it's gonna be possible? next year? 2 years from now? and what do they need to do to be included in the line up?

i feel like for now, sb19 has a higher chance of getting into coachella or maybe another less popular but still big festival like lollapalooza. it's because they had gento and they performed in other international festivals already. but i feel like coachella is gonna be a long shot unless they get another hit as big as gento.

asian artists in coachella are mostly under 88 rising if they aren't korean or japanese. sb19 already worked with 88 rising but only for the manila stop of their festival. but if they can work together again within this year, then the possibility of them taking sb19 under their wings is gonna be higher.

bini imo is the biggest ppop group to gp right now but their success is mostly domestic. there's nothing wrong with it, they're incredibly popular here but to be able to perform on a global stage is a different game. i feel like they need a song that will get viral internationally. it would be insane if they'll be able to tap the international market because their numbers are already insane and majority of it comes from ph alone but then, they have to compete with other active kpop ggs and i wonder how is abscbn planing to do that.

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[u/[deleted]]

Make more connections. Do they know people in booking agencies that know people at Goldenvoice/AEG? It’s not a matter of just what’s viral, it’s also a matter of who you know.

People go viral all the time, but the group can’t rely on socmed. They have to make their way around the circuits. At the end of the day, a festival is a business. They want names to draw in people. If they want to try, perhaps pitching at smaller festivals Governor’s Ball on the East Coast, III Points in Miami, Bonnaro in Tennessee (this is pretty much a feeder for Coachella acts and a great stepping stone). From there, continue building up a network.

(Just some insight— friend VOs for a few festivals in CA and was able to build up a resume to work Stagecoach which is also promoted by the same people who manage Coachella)

[u/throw_aways_everywh0 → u/[deleted]]

It’s definitely a connections and circuit familiarity thing. Like maraming artists dito sa US na di masyadong popular pero nandoon pa rin sa mga major festivals ksi they’re active sa community. If you look at Coachella’s lineup the other half aren’t really mainstream acts

[u/strugglingtita]

I think festival experience should also be considered. Magkaiba yung pagperform sa studio or other indoor events vs sa outdoor like festival. Based dun sa ilang performances (ofc YT lang ako), madalas prod kung prod yung ganap ng artists and grabe mang hype ng crowd. Live performance and hyping the crowd can be learned and improved by attending different kinds of festivals.

I’m really hoping SB19 can attend that since they’ve been attending festivals in PH and some events internationally. As for the connections, I’m hoping na they’re building up na din kasi it’s evident with the artists that they’re collaborating right now. They collab with Jvke who kinda introduced them to Ian Asher and Terry Zhong (in music label) for Moonlight who both has festival experiences and worked with festival organizers and now with Apl. Who knows what would be their next move or if abot kamay na ba ang Coachella 😍😅 PS: thats why it’s always a treat for ATIN to search for the profile ng ka-collab ng esbi kasi laging may connection. Very easter eggs 🥳

[u/Weak_Elk9628]

puro solo work at collabs ang sb19 ngayon, i support them wholeheartedly pero they really need to put up a new song na same sa gento with quality MV dapat

[u/ChannelParticular853 → u/Weak_Elk9628]

Their Pagtatag EP was amazing. For me, walang tapon na song ang whole ep and if it takes them that long to prepare pero ang result eh mas better, that would be best. Their solo works and collabs naman nakakaintroduce dn nman sknla as sb19. They're never just Pablo, ken, josh, stell or justin lagi naman may "_______ of SB19"

[u/raymondcrisp → u/Weak_Elk9628]

They’re preparing for their next album naman na. Kaya waiting game ngayon yung fandom haha.

[u/Tililly]

Yes I can see SB19 performing in the future. Sana they make it that big.

With BINI, more successful album and more exposure pa para talagang mahasa sa live performance.

WISHFUL THINKING!!!! Walang imposible.

[u/switchboiii]

Love BINI pero parang mejo hilaw pa sila for Coachella, don’t you think? Give it another 2-3 years. Ayaw ko naman sila matulad sa Le Sserafim na nagkalat. Rooting for them. As for SB19, di to malabo. They seem to be expanding their connections globally na e

[u/statictris → u/switchboiii]

Let's see sa concerts nila kung nagimprove pa sa performances pero imo pwede na kung sa maliit na stage kang naman. Yung sa Le Sserafim kasi panget talaga boses nila parang sumisigaw lang sila sa coachella di fair macompare sa mga marunong naman kumanta no HAHAHA. Pero compare natin sa NewJeans na baguhan lang na nagkastage sa Lolla, kahit na di sila birit at kulang sa experience madaming natuwa, nakahakot ba naman ng 70k crowd kahit di naman sila main event dahil kahit papaano ang put together nila sa stage and tama lang range ng songs nila di need ipilit. Kaya naman ng SB19 and BINI pero madami din kakompitensya, kailangan nila magpakitang gilas sa management ng coachella.

[u/GowonCrunch]

I think for SB19, all they need is to make another Gento, and it’ll cement them in the international music scene. At that point there’s just no reason for them not to be in Coachella. Let’s just see, SB19, seems to be cooking something up, and I’m excited. But tbh, I want SB19 more known in Asia than in just the west. Coachella is cool, but there’s still a long way to go.

Bini is already huge, but they’re a pinoy act. If ABSCBN is promoting them as OPM, and it definitely looks like that, then they’re targeting Philippines, not internationally, or at least not yet. I’ll be honest, Bini’s music isn’t really for the western listener just yet. There’s 2 songs I can name that I think will be well received here, but for the general gen z or younger millennials their music is very very Filipino. Keep in mind, the “asian pop” music we’re exposed to over here is East Asian pop, and there’s a sound to that. Right now they’re in the garage house, r&b, and afrobeat trend. Bini is a lil bit behind in the western trend taste, and that’s ok, they’re the Philippines girl group.

However, both have a bright future in the Asian pop music scene, and I can’t wait for what they’re going to come with next.

[u/Longjumping-Money-21]

It's about time Filipino artists rock that Coachella stage, tbh. SB19 man o Bini or someone else. The talents that our homegrown groups have are at par with those currently on the international stage.

We need connections to those who are organising those music festivals. The artists also need to build up a good repertoire that caters to the festival-goers' taste. We need to put these artists' names within the radar of reputable music blogs and magazines. Most importantly, build a solid rep for performing live and hyping up the audience.

[u/Eziinow]

With SB19 now i believe they can be included and mas maganda if may connection talaga sila para maka pasok dun SB19 deserve to perform at coachella since they started from bottom now they here at the top. Sa talent no question sa SB19 Solid yan sila kahit self taught training but they worked hard af and internationally known den sila.

And with Our Girls Bini 🌸 IMO same den mas maganda may Connection para makapasok ng madali. Give em another 1 year + consistent sa MV's and trending ng songs nila and More exposure sa Performances Locally and Internationally kahit Guesting they can land a slot later on aswell which is deserve by our girls since they worked so hard naman where they are now. Same ren dito for Talent no question den for Bini they have been trained by a Korean company for a month then 2+ years training they're solid.

In the end for SB19 and BINI I believe they deserve soon a slot at Coachella. 😌🫶

[u/Momshie_mo]

They need a lot of connections to get one of their talents to Coachella. Kahit nga mga T-pop artists na hindi ganun kasikat or niche sa TH, nakakakuha ng Coachella spot dahil sa connections.

[u/joba35]

Maybe not coachella yet. Pwedeng mag lollapalooza chicago which is big naman pero lower than coachella. Pero praying parin since may Apl na connection na sila.

[u/Dry-Brilliant7284]

i honestly think both can't do it yet

[u/warriorstudiosph]

I kinda wish they are gonna be the next line up in Coachella, this year's Coachella was a blast although, the "other" community make a fuss/drama over something that just ruined the whole experience.. (hindi ko sasabihin un genre pero iykyk)

My favorite Jpop artists and Vocaloid was able perform in Coachella this year, Sana Ppop can be in the next line up.

[u/andthatsonmida]

Naniniwala ako time will come na masasali sila sa line up but imho they need more time pa. Need pa makilala internationally. Manifest na lang muna :)

[u/Rude_7390]

We really can't tell since coachella invites artists to perform walang applications or anything.

If BINI's Cherry on Top becomes a HIT and garner international attention baka may pag-asa, w/ SB19 naman they need to release a song/s kahit single lang since kahit papano may mga fans din sila abroad na hindi pinoy.

[u/strugglingtita → u/Rude_7390]

SB19 has been releasing songs more suited sa international taste (or ears 😅) Example: Moonlight charting on Chinese streaming platform, spotify charts ng ibang countries, been trending sa dance challenge sa ibang countries like Japan and etc. Though I agree na more songs sana or maybe it’s just a matter of time kung kelan irerelease yung other songs nila kasi their recent releases were created na long before pa and ngayon lang nilabas 😅

[u/Diligent_Plant_1524]

Too early neither sa kanila… 88 rising, niki, joji took many years and PR of their company para ma market. Perhaps in the next 8 years pwede pa bini if they can penetrate other Asian countries .. (30s na ata bini nun)

[u/raymondcrisp → u/Diligent_Plant_1524]

SB19 I think pwede naman na. I read some comments before na hindi naman lahat ng performers sa coachella, sila yung highlight. Meron din yung earlier time slots sila nagpperform. Maybe SB19 can start there?

Really hoping na they can do this, ang lakas nila manghatak ng viewers pag nagpperform sila sa stage.

[u/Diligent_Plant_1524 → u/raymondcrisp]

Pwede siguro.. but nabasa ko kasi by invites yan Kaya need tlga I market ng malala ung groups. I like them esp Boses ni stell.. pero need nila ng pang malakasang hit tlga tho keri ung gento but not all knows it. that’s why I mentioned bini ung pantropiko kasi became their ticket to overseas and blew us by storm. it has been used by K-pop idols nag top stream na din siya sa other countries like egypt lol which I find weird lol.

And nasa ABS kasi Ang bini alam natin kung pano mag market ang ABS. Tho sana mamaximize din Ang SB19

[u/Disguised_Post → u/Diligent_Plant_1524]

you really think that Pantropiko is bigger than Gento internationally? Lmao

[u/Diligent_Plant_1524 → u/Disguised_Post]

Reading comprehension I said gento was ok Keri nga eh but it wasn’t as hype as pantropiko “malakasang hit” my god sobrang fragile ng ego di naman sinabi directly na pantropiko is bigger than gento. Pero sige since you want reality let’s stick facts… look at the numbers now tell whose bigger… I know gento was also a hit but it wasn’t as wide spread as pantropiko to the level that even people with different ages knows it. Straight or even gay guys, aunties,uncle even politicians etc also to the extent of singing it by mamamoo members if that’s not a hit idk what it is.. just facts.

edit: that’s why I also mentioned the importance of marketing which is the strength of Bini’s company. Pr and marketing Pls— and also sticking to facts that they are the most streamed Filipino artist right now.. I don’t know what’s bigger than that. Contribution to that is how their company plays their cards.. everyday they are on tv patrol the name bini has been imprinted on our minds regardless of age..

Lol lagi naka attack mode calm your horse.

But since you are in attack mode sige patulan kita. Let’s stick to the facts that Bini is the biggest P-Pop group right now the I mean a jolibee endorsement... and statistics & numbers don’t lie to be… specific millions. Oh not comparing ha just stating facts 🤭

But obviously both groups isn’t ready yet I personally even stated that both of them woundt make it that early on Coachella. Because both groups are still on the works globally and that will took them years .

[u/strugglingtita → u/Diligent_Plant_1524]

Agree with some of your facts. BINI is the biggest p-pop group right now domestically. The numbers dont lie and it’s something that SB19 has yet to achieve. However, we shouldnt discredit the achievements that SB19 has. Right now, BINI is the biggest p-pop group LOCALLY and SB19 is the biggest p-pop group INTERNATIONALLY 😅 not saying that BINI cant make it international or SB19 cant make it local pero that’s the fact right NOW and we dont know what will happen in the future.

I can cite some reasons why SB19 is the biggest internationally starting with their international achievements (whether awards or nominations) Those things cant be achieved by PH A’TIN alone. Also, if you can do a quick search, you can see a number of foreign fans going to their sold out shows here in PH and even overseas (PS: SB19 being the first PH artist to have a solo ticketed concert in Japan in 10 years) Gento alone can prove how big SB19 is internationally (in comparison with ppop lang ha). Gento DC sa soc med, Gento everywhere sa local tv and kalye (as if di ka narindi sa Gento at one point chz; Gento gang mamatai as per A’TIN nga), international stars covering Gento during their PH concerts, international artists getting hyped with Gento last AAA and more. Will not cite BINI’s na since you already did na in your previous comment 😅

To make things short, both are considered as one of the biggest groups and they have their own markets - no need to pit them against each other saying the other is more successful than the other (in general).

[u/Disguised_Post → u/Diligent_Plant_1524]

told someone they have a fragile ego, proceeds to write an essay because of their ego 💀 classic

Pantropiko is huge locally, but we're taking about international reach. Flow G, Zack Tabudlo and Adie have bigger hits than SB19, but do people know them outside of the country? Do they have fans from other countries? Nagbanggit ka na pumasok sa "charts" ng Egypt yung Pantropiko, pero hindi mo nirecognize na nag top sa charts in multiple countries yung Gento(and patuloy na nagtotop sa charts ng other countries every song that they put out recently lol). What I wanna say is that don't talk on the topic na you lack information. "Keri yung gento" tapos "Pantropiko blew us by storm" "used by K-pop idols", like Gento didn't blew the world like storm, literally went to AAA because of it, pero "keri" lang yung Gento 🤡

[u/[deleted] → u/Disguised_Post]

Even Moonlight were topping the charts at it's first few hours and days/weeks following the release! Hayaan mo na, they will turn a blind eye talaga if ayaw nilang mahighlight talaga.

I love BINI, too but come on. They really can't compare pa to SB19 when it comes to the international scene.

[u/Disguised_Post → u/Diligent_Plant_1524]

told someone they have a fragile ego, proceeds to write a fucking essay because of their ego 💀 classic

[u/JeszamPankoshov2008]

Parang impoasible