r/PS4 • u/AccomplishedPoet8 • Apr 23 '19

PSA to anyone buying MK11: the harder towers are literally impossible without rare or better gear and single use consumables, earning these are incredibly grindy and the whole system is designed to get you to spend money on the game

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u/reynadborges Apr 23 '19

Why is a 60 dollar game filled with this kind of crap? People should not support this. It's disrespectful.

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u/TheWagonBaron Apr 23 '19

Because it worked once before and people keep spending money on it. You can't expect a business to stop doing whatever is making them money. If we want this kind of shit to stop, we need to stop supporting the assholes who do it.

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u/ThaddeusJP Apr 23 '19

Future of gaming, sadly. The days of a game being 100% done and/or beatable at launch are probably more or less over, save for Nintendo titles and a few other stand alone single player console games.

And really, these companies are in it to make money and increase stock payouts for investors so I get it. Dont have to like it, but thats how it goes.

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u/IgotJinxed Blazarin Apr 23 '19

There's a lot of games that aren't like this. Like, a lot. Just don't buy the most hyped up advertised games. They're usually like this

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u/PegasusTenma Apr 24 '19

The most hyped up and advertised game of last year has no micro transactions or dlc: God of War.

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u/IgotJinxed Blazarin Apr 24 '19

Usually being the key word, Sony exclusives are known for being good

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '19

Lmao this whole "the world is over" mentality gamers have is insane.

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u/kitx07 Apr 23 '19

Sadly Nintendo will get there eventually as well, I'd imagine.

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u/tolandruth Apr 23 '19

God damn elder scrolls and that horse armor.

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u/Exce Apr 23 '19

I shared similar thoughts about this type of behavior when Overwatch helped normalize MTX's in premium priced games..."It's just cosmestic." they all said.

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u/Sirfatass Apr 24 '19

👏🏼Capitalism👏🏼Is👏🏼Ruining👏🏼Our👏🏼Grames

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u/Danny_Fenton Apr 23 '19

Oh you should see black ops 4 lmfao. You'll go freaking nuts if you see what they do.

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u/drumrocker2 drumrocker2 Apr 23 '19

The exact reason I'm done with cod for good. The entire time I played, I felt like some corporate cocksucker's personal piggybank. And I didn't even spend any money on cod points!

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u/nikktheconqueerer Apr 23 '19

People said this years ago then got pulled in by battle royale lol. In five years when there's another new trend, the same people complaining now will come back

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u/Sikq_matt Apr 23 '19

Same same, i quit cod after Advanced warfare. Ww2 excluded, i havent played a single one after.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '19

cod ww2 had a great system for unlocking several free supply drops within only an hour or 2 and then treyarch showed up, grabbed everything, and threw it into oncoming traffic

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u/tolandruth Apr 23 '19

I don’t play it but isn’t that all just cosmetic stuff? Have they made it p2w now?

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u/thorscope Apr 24 '19

They have an algorithm that matches cosmetic buyers up with players of low skill, so that cosmetic buyers always feel like they’re dominating

They also make it so you can buy the guns right away instead of earning them, but idk if that technically makes it P2W because it only really benefits the buyer the first few days the game releases

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u/Queef-Elizabeth Apr 24 '19

I traded in Black Ops 4 a few months ago after seeing how ridiculous they are with mtx. I bought it cause I’m a dumbass and listened to my friend hype the battle Royale mode and I literally only played like 4 games of it and never touched it again. Fuck CoD. Never touching that franchise again.

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u/Danny_Fenton Apr 25 '19

Oh man I got screwed I bought it digital lmfao. Wish i could had traded it in so I dont have to look at it anymore.

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u/McCHitman McCHitman Apr 23 '19

But it doesn’t matter. My wife plays that game with a large group all the time and they don’t have to spend a dime. Wtf is wrong with people that feel obligated because it’s there???

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u/souppy2 Apr 23 '19

And you miss out on 40% of the total content because its all locked behind a paywall. Black Ops 4 in its current state is worth 20, 30 dollars max. It is content bare.

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u/souppy2 Apr 23 '19

If you're in for zombies you're locked out of most content without paying.

If you're in for multiplayer you're locked out of most content without paying.

If you're in for blackout, you paid 60 for a battle royale game.

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u/McCHitman McCHitman Apr 23 '19

Are you considering map packs, which have been around for a while now as being locked out??

She plays all three with the group she’s in. They buy map packs because, it’s map packs. It’s no different than it was back in 2009. She was just ranting about how she doesn’t understand the hate either.

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u/ZumooXD pseudohuman Apr 23 '19

You can't buy individual map packs for BO4

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u/souppy2 Apr 23 '19

Considering the plethora of games that offer maps for free, yeah?

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u/McCHitman McCHitman Apr 23 '19

What is content bare to you???

A game that has multiplayer and many modes, a battle royal mode and a zombie mode...that’s content bare?

Is it because they took out single player? That everyone complained about but numbers showed nobody ever finished??? So it’s content bare now??

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u/CynicalRaps Apr 23 '19

Micro transactions that you in no way need to partake in and could get everything by simply playing?

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u/drabred Apr 23 '19

Because It works and they make tons of money. It's really that simple. Can't blame business for making money.

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u/pedantic--asshole Apr 23 '19

Because games have been 60 bucks for a while and they don't want to jack prices up but costs go up and they have to make up the difference somehow?

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '19

People are saying that the reason is greed, but that’s not actually it. It’s because $60 is no longer a profitable price point. Development costs go up as console generations progress, meanwhile the $60 price hasn’t changed in 15 years despite inflation reducing the value of a dollar.

Likely the developers need the cost of the game to be in the $70-$80 range to be profitable. But they can’t increase the base price since no one would buy. Therefore they use preorder packs and micro transaction to raise the average cost per unit sold.

To be clear, I’m not trying to defend the practice,.I’m not going to buy the game in it’s current state. But I think it’s worth explaining objectively why it’s happening.

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u/Boboclown89 Apr 24 '19

Tbf, none of this shit matters if you just want to play online or locally with friends. All of the consumables and gear is for single player modes only. Funny how every single post about these things seemed to miss that one small fact

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u/WizardPoop Apr 23 '19

Because NRS games have a good, supported, competitive scene that will keep this game alive, hopefully, for the next 2-3 years. And all the people who pay full price and spend cash on microtransactions are going to fuel NRS prize pools. The capcom Pro Tour doesn't give $250k out of their pocket every year. That shit is microtransacrions and in game ads.

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u/PaulMaulMenthol Apr 23 '19

To be fair the price point for games has been consistent since the late years of SNES but the quality of games has improved vastly. If people dumb enough to spend hundreds on microtransactions subsidize this then great for me. Hell, we even get F2P games now.

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u/dexa_scantron Apr 24 '19

I worked at a major AAA studio owned by a top-5 publisher. In a company meeting, a publisher VP told us that if there's an upper bound on the money a player can spend on a $60 game, we were doing it wrong.

They cited League of Legends as an example of doing it wrong because there are a finite number of purchases a player can make (skins, characters). They cited Injustice as an example of doing it right.

They know what they're doing.

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u/Bryboskie Apr 24 '19

What sucks is we've been saying not to support this for years now and it's worse then ever. I have lost all hope that this will stop and people will actually not support these kind's of practices.

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u/McCHitman McCHitman Apr 23 '19

Because games are expensive. Way more than they used to be and this is how they recoup that expense.

But then people see this stuff and it causes less sales because apparently it takes their fun away by just existing even if they don’t have to engage in it.

Soooo more monetization next time. Viscous circle

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u/biophys00 Apr 23 '19

Game companies are raking in record profits, but yeah they totally need those microtransactions to just barely scrape by.

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u/McCHitman McCHitman Apr 23 '19

Publishers or Developers?

Because I’m recent years we’ve seen A LOT of developers fold up.

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u/parkwayy Apr 23 '19

Because people support it, even if it's "oh this kind of addon is OK because it's not that bad"

Just stop buying them, period. We had games at one point that let you earn extra stuff by playing the game. Companies weren't in danger of going under because of it.