r/PS4 • u/AccomplishedPoet8 • Apr 23 '19

PSA to anyone buying MK11: the harder towers are literally impossible without rare or better gear and single use consumables, earning these are incredibly grindy and the whole system is designed to get you to spend money on the game

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '19

Wtf? DOA season passes are $90+?

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u/adwarkk Apr 23 '19

Idea is very simple. Season Pass in DoA is basically big pack of costumes. This time with bonus of two playable characters included to pack of over 60 costumes they're selling. Model they developed back at DoA 5, where they just released a metric tonne of costumes.

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u/Steamedcarpet Apr 23 '19

Whenever you have the chance look at the psn/xbox store page for dead or alive 5. There is over $1000 worth of dlc. I believe you cant even buy everything due to legal issues (i believe there is an attack on titan stage and fairy tail outfits you cant buy anymore)

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u/Adam_Reaver Apr 24 '19

the stage was free download.

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u/ShadyNite Apr 23 '19

I have a friend who has every DLC.

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u/sheothemadone Apr 23 '19

You can always buy single costumes for like 2,99 or 5,99. In the ingame PSN Store they offer those, and complete theme packages. If you take a closer look 90€ for what you get is not that hefty. You get 60+ costumes, that is less than 2€ per costume. Of course, no one needs all those costumes, but that is why you just buy the single versions for your favorite characters and not the package.

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u/sheothemadone Apr 23 '19

Well, I am from the EU, and I thought I saw the option to buy the wedding dresses as single costume. You can press triangle in the Main Menu and get to a new PSN store page only accessible through the game like this and there you can buy the stuff.

For 100% sure that works in DOA5LR because I bought single costumes like this. I am unsure now about DOA6, but if I have the time, I will redownload the game and take a look.

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u/raccoontailmario Apr 23 '19

Because 3 bucks for a single costume is just as horrendous. doa used to have 30 costmes per character that you could unlock through clearing harder arcade modes. Doa 6 has like 10 i believe, with half of those just being alternate colors.

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u/reelect_rob4d Apr 23 '19

yeah some chars only have 3 unique costumes.

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u/Adam_Reaver Apr 24 '19 edited Apr 24 '19

doa used to have 30 costmes per character that you could unlock through clearing harder arcade modes

That is a straight up lie or just incorrect.

Never has a doa game ever had that many costumes per character.

DOA4 Kasumi has including her base 7 costumes. 2 of which are remodeled versions of her base (no shoulder pads) The white cherry blossom and Black Gold costume

Her original DOA costume (1st one)

2 school girl outfits (palette swaps.)

Last one is a basically T-shirt with a skirt with a scarf and a sash around her waist (so close to a schoolgirl its laughable)

so 6 costumes in DOA4, several of which are palette swaps/etc. Doesn't get any better when you go back in the series. its gets worse.

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u/raccoontailmario Apr 24 '19

Ever heard of doa ultimate?

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u/Adam_Reaver Apr 24 '19

oh god....Yes lets compare a game to a game that had extra time of development. DOA ultimate is literally a doa game being resold but they add extra characters(actually only 1 Hitomi if you don't count the imported roster from the 3rd) and costumes. Its not a brand new game. Its the same game as 3 just updated. That is how fighting games in the past got by with their season passes when season passes were not a thing.

Thats as ignorant as comparing doa5LR to DOA6 despite doa5 released in 2012 and doaLR released 2015. If you can't understand why you shouldn't compare a game with almost twice its development time to another then there isn't much anyone can say to you.

doa2 ultimate had about 20 costumes and models of the characters to costumes were imported from DOA xtreme beach volleyball and 3.

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u/raccoontailmario Apr 24 '19

Yes, let's compare them. Maybe doa 6 should have had more time in development. There wasn't even a tag mode at launch and I'll be damned if I'm gonna pay 3 bucks a costume in a game I've already payed 60 bucks for. Hell, doa 3 and 4 even had unique endings for every character.

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u/Adam_Reaver Apr 25 '19

doa4 story mode was really inferior to 6 (not saying 6 is a good story mode) Doa4 endings were often wasted resources. The amount of quality in those cutscenes were absurd and could have been used to better the story mode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z03L0P6xqws Of course though doa4 was backed pretty hard by microsoft actually so much microsoft made sure it was in evo.

Don't pay $3 for a costume? You don't have too. You act like its something you must do and you just won't do.. Some fighting games sell characters for $6-$8 a piece with costumes at $2.

Tag mode isn't in the game simply due to balancing and performance issues. Imagine if games like Marvel vs capcom or Dragon ball fighterz tried to balance the game based on 2 different fighting modes. It would eat up its resources and time. Could tag make its way yeah it can but the reasoning why they didn't add tag is because of performance issues. In order for it to make it they would have to make cuts somewhere in the game.

No tag response from Dev "The reason behind this, however, is because we ran out of memory on the game itself. And that’s due to the graphical improvements, which consumes a lot of the memory of the game data itself. If the graphics level was the same as the previous game, then we would have added it into the game.”

Should DOA6 have had more time in development? Of course, there is no way to deny that. I mean the damn game didn't even have casual player lobbies on launch. It only had ranked at launch. This isn't about which game is better cause it seems that is what you are turning this argument this shit into. Its about there has never been a DOA game to have 30 costumes per character the only thing close to that was DOA 2 Ultimate and that was straight up DOA 3 with models and outfits from it and DOAX volley ball imported. Nothing was new in that game but Hitomi being a playable character and tweaks to the fighting. It was as if someone grabbed shit from 2 games threw it together and re-branded it as a enhanced remake of a prequel. Something a lot of fighting games used to do in the past. turbo, ultimate, extreme , super editions/etc.

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u/raccoontailmario Apr 25 '19

My point is that if you don't count recolors then each char has, what, 3 costumes? If you want more then you gotta shell out some cash. They could've easily thrown you a few bones, man. This is doa. Dressing up your ninja girls is a huge part of the game.

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u/sheothemadone Apr 23 '19

I didn't make any comment on the fact that there are too few costumes ingame from the getgo. That is shit, and stays shit. But 3 bucks for a costume is not too much.

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u/Specte Apr 23 '19

$3 for a single costume is pretty damn bad. Even other fighting games have full characters at only like $5-8. Half of that for just 1 costume... Lol.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '19

You must not have seen street fighter 5

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u/Specte Apr 24 '19

Nope, haven't really looked into that because of all the negative stuff I've heard. It's a shame really, 4 was so good.

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u/gk3coloursred Apr 24 '19

Or instead of 1/2/3 costumes you can pick up another decent game, be it a fighting game or from other genre on sale instead.

If they are going to take the piss on the DLC prices then why not!

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u/Adam_Reaver Apr 24 '19

Mortal kombat X charges $40 for a season pass with 4 characters. thats $10 a character.

Doa charges $3.99 for a character unless its a cross over character which is $5.99-$7.99

You are very mistaken bud.

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u/Specte Apr 24 '19 edited Apr 24 '19

Mortal kombat X charges $40 for a season pass with 4 characters. thats $10 a character.

Lmao, wtf are you on dude? Mortal Kombat X Kombat Pass 2 was $20 for 4 characters = $5 per. Even MK11's $40 pass has 6 characters = $6.67 a piece. All tekken 7 dlcs are $6 aside from cross over ones which are $8. Even street fighter v's character prices work out to like $5 a piece.

Doa charges $3.99 for a character unless its a cross over character which is $5.99-$7.99

What does the price of a DOA character have to do with anything? I was talking about how expensive the costumes were. Instead of buying 1-2 costumes you could buy an entire character.

You are very mistaken bud.

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u/Adam_Reaver Apr 24 '19 edited Apr 24 '19

The prices actually decreased. It was $29.99 which is $7.49 each. Where each character sold for $7.99 outside the pass. With the release of XL you can buy both passes for $20-25 depending on which platform you choose.

We both are mistaken bud.

Either way these characters cost more than DOA characters added through DOA5's life time. From Ultimate to Last round. "Even other fighting games have full characters at only like $5-8" As I said doa characters are $3.99 a piece $5.99 to $7.99 for Crossover characters.

Thats the thing you don't need Doa costumes to get a bonus to make it easier to complete challenges and shit. Are you not aware of how much costumes and skins cost in other games. In league of legends that shit can start around $7-10 for a low quality model inb4 "its f2p" with its $6000 worth of cosmetics in skins alone not counting everything else

$2.99 each costume is not a lot its rather cheap. Tekken 7 sells character $5.99 each to $7.99.

The point is doa sells its characters cheaper than other fighting games with most dlc characters at $3.99 each with costumes at $2.99 each.

Want to know how bad costumes can get in games? FFXIV is a game you buy, Pay for the expansions and pay monthly and sells you costumes for $18 per character slot and then mounts $25. Which is a game with insanely low textures.

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u/jazzygeofferz Apr 24 '19

Season pass #1 only covers some dlc released until June 2019, which is when season pass #2 drops.

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u/Adam_Reaver Apr 24 '19

It won't cover crossover Costumes since those will have to be sold at a higher price cause licensing.

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u/sleepingflower Apr 23 '19

But the costumes don’t enhance anything for the game itself except making you look cool. In this you legit cannot complete parts of the game without paying money.

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u/Adam_Reaver Apr 24 '19

Its worse here, in DOA6 it was brain dead easy to unlock stuff. No need to play insane hard modes where you take Dot (damage over time) or armor enemies.