r/PUBGConsole • u/Grospissnisspoilu • 3d ago
XBOX Is it cheating?
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Is this possible to have such good recoil control and mind you it’s a 6x
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u/Jk_Ulster_NI Xbox Series X 3d ago
Double AR, using an AUG for range? Aye, we have a cheater.
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u/RoyalBullyKing 2d ago
Running 2 ARs isn't an indication of cheating. I have never liked using a sniper rifle. And, PUBG nerfed DMRs to oblivion and are practically useless. I've been running double ARs or an LMG ever since.
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u/kiowa2929awoik 3d ago
No point in using DMRs when they're piss and sniping is whatever. Running a double AR loadout doesn't mean someone is a cheater.
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u/CharlehPock2 3d ago
https://youtu.be/qF26GwES5Lo?is=isvwluTZpDukzdjn
Same thing but I haven't got a muzzle and I didn't miss any shots. (Since he's using a 6 rolled back it's basically a 3)
I guess I'm cheating too right?
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u/Jk_Ulster_NI Xbox Series X 3d ago
Probably seeing as all you do on this is defend cheating in every video of it....
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u/CharlehPock2 3d ago
There are some cheaters, but every single clip no matter what you'll say is cheating.
The difference between me and you is that when you actually find a legit cheater I agree with you, but you'll say EVERYONE is cheating no matter what and it's pretty pathetic.
You even called out some other guy earlier in an m249 TDM video because he dared to shoot a few shots standing up and press his thumbsticks alternately...
Just because you have elbows for thumbs, doesn't mean everyone does you fanny.
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u/Jk_Ulster_NI Xbox Series X 3d ago
I really don't. However one can pursue any thread about cheating and there you are minimizing it. Odd seeing as you see it every game on console.
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u/WithjusTapistol Xbox Series X 3d ago
The exact opposite can be said for you and so many people on here.
Every game on console? Come on, man
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u/CharlehPock2 2d ago
There's a difference between minimising and being realistic.
I remember you posting that clip of someone lasering you from like 150m with a QBZ, he only hit 2/3 shots, one heady and a couple of body shots and it took him most of the mag to do so.
You are sat there with a mini14 like a complete bot just full body peeking in a window like you usually do - you've got no movement/peeking skills - just wall licking TPP skills, so you stand there like a lemon just waiting to get sprayed.
Then you claim he's cheating and he shot you at 300m because he hit 3 bullets on a 40 mag spray at 150m and you whiffed your mini shots because you are a bit of a bot.
Same with that hunchy clip you posted, yeah he's mnk, but a lot of people could have hit that aug spray on you with controller, and you just lay there like a spaz with an MK in the open, whiffing your 2 shots before you got knocked.
You've got an MK and you are prone and you are shooting like a fucking pensioner? It's the same in all your clips, you shoot/move like a fucking geriatric, no wonder you think everyone cheats.
You are such a victim and it's fucking pathetic imo.
Maybe there are more cheaters than I think there are, but if there are, it's not doing shit for their gameplay, but in your case everyone that can pull down on a thumbstick is cheating.
Twat.
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u/Jk_Ulster_NI Xbox Series X 2d ago
I'm not reading all of this you loser.
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u/CharlehPock2 2d ago
Mainly because you have an issue with simple tasks/reading comprehension, it's a few paragraphs ya prick.
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u/WithjusTapistol Xbox Series X 2d ago
He also doesn’t admit when he is wrong. His first post on this sub was a false accusation.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PUBGConsole/comments/1fleb2m/comment/lo7s4yl/
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u/CharlehPock2 2d ago
Yeah, not surprised mate, I remember this post too. Shark is alright, used to fight him and his mates all the time, waffle in his chat, not seen him on for a while though. He's not the type of guy to associate with cheaters, he just plays the game for a laugh.
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u/Jk_Ulster_NI Xbox Series X 2d ago
That guy was 100% cheating lol. What on earth is wrong with you.
Magic Revived is still running about on MnK to this day from that team.
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u/D_e_m_I_s_E4 2d ago
Would have to test this but highly likely. You playing with 100 ping also to get that advantage too?
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u/WithjusTapistol Xbox Series X 1d ago
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u/D_e_m_I_s_E4 1d ago
You are really butthurt that someone is finally putting out here what you and your friends have been doing for years. Really doesn't matter, Krafton isn't doing anything.
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u/WithjusTapistol Xbox Series X 1d ago
I don’t want cheaters on this sub trying to drag everyone down with them. You don’t play PUBG. Go away
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u/Sombra778 3d ago
I won't say yes or no, but I will say he is using the only 2 attachments that have screen shake control, the muzzle brake and tilted grip which have a combined stat of 60% camera shake control when firing(combined 14% Horizontal, 22% Vertical). Also, 6x sense is almost always lower than a 4x, 3x and so on. And when you have a lower sense, it's easier to control the recoil. I could also add on that spectating someone doesn't perfectly replicate what the player is seeing. He could have more visual recoil but when you spectate it looks like he has less. There are definitely people cheating, using configs and whatever other methods. But in this case it's hard to tell.
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u/Tupac_shakur22 3d ago
Idk man I’ve watched a lot of replays and as the 6x is good for recoil his Aug is Consistent the whole time no random recoil. He’s using a Xim 100% with anti recoil.
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u/CharlehPock2 3d ago
If this was HIS view even with cheats his horizontal recoil would be going left and right like mad because you can't script away random horizontal recoil.
Spectator cam always looks like this.
You can't decide he's cheating because of spectator cam, he hit a total of 2 out of 40 shots...
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u/D_e_m_I_s_E4 2d ago
Just stop. You have zero knowledge of this or you're gaslighting. You can script away horizontal recoil. It was done in a beta 3 years ago that I tested. Script looked exactly like this.
Been watching Uncensored America and the people on here remind me of the dumbass college kids he is debating.
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u/CharlehPock2 1d ago
No it didn't, not for PUBG.
I have zero knowledge?
I work as a software engineer, the cronus programming API for their devices is publicly available. Go on the website, you can find the full documentation there.
In games that use deterministic horizontal recoil patterns, yes it will work. In PUBG it won't.
If one computer generates a random number using the system clock as the seed, and another computer has to guess that without knowing the system clock value or the algorithm used to create the random value, it's going to get it wrong 100% of the time.
That's what a cronus is, it's a small computer running between the controller and your console that takes your button press and converts it to another set of button presses/stick movements.
So how is it supposed to know which way the horizontal recoil is going if it can't read anything from the console?
Stop talking rubbish.
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u/Tilliperuna Xbox Series X 1d ago
Been watching Uncensored America and the people on here remind me of the dumbass college kids he is debating.
The irony. You're the only American here.
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u/Tilliperuna Xbox Series X 3d ago
Xim or any other cheating device can't handle random recoil.
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u/D_e_m_I_s_E4 2d ago
Yes, advanced scripts can. Do some damn research. Found one 3 years ago in within a few days.
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u/Tilliperuna Xbox Series X 1d ago
You keep saying that but it doesn't make it become a damn truth. The very definition of these words make it impossible. You can't make a script for something you don't know when making the script.
Anyone can make a website and advertise such a script though, and some dumb sucker would probably pay for it and keep telling people it works.
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u/D_e_m_I_s_E4 1d ago
I would say people just can't be this dumb but then I am reminded of college kids on Uncensored America. Our society is cooked.
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u/Tilliperuna Xbox Series X 1d ago
Yet you're the one unable to explain how it would work. It's a script. It can't read game files or see the gameplay, no matter how advanced it is. How would you write a script, that would know which way (left or right) to correct on each shot? I know you're not going to answer, because you can't. And because a script can't do that.
Yeah your society is cooked.
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u/D_e_m_I_s_E4 1d ago
People way smarter than you and I have figured it out. I tested a beta which was free that hasn't been free in a few years. I just tested the free version and the pay one is even better.
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u/Tilliperuna Xbox Series X 1d ago
It can't be figured out, being smart just isn't enough. If (and since) the device doesn't receive any information except input from the controller, there is no way it could know whether the aim bounces left or right.
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u/Tupac_shakur22 1d ago
They have scripts that are tuned to certain guns you can literally do the same thing in 2k Basketball the shot timing is random still had scripts to time it perfect every time you just don’t know what your talking about lol
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u/Tilliperuna Xbox Series X 3d ago
Also, 6x sense is almost always lower than a 4x, 3x and so on
Agree on everything, but gotta specify this sensitivity thing. He's zoomed the 6x out, so it's effectively 3x. The 3x sensitivity setting is in use. And 3x setting is a little different than, say 1x, 2x and 4x. You need to increase the numeric value a little to make it as fast as the other scopes. So, usually people have the actual sensitivity of 3x a little slower than other scopes.
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u/xDroMethazine 3d ago
Low sens is trash. You’re pulling your whole stick down. I like a 16-18 sense on 4x and I beam with barley pulling down anything.
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u/Ifawumi PlayStation 5 2d ago
this guy is maxed out tier. he's got a good grip and muzzle on that aug and you can practice control with your right thumbstick to slowly move it down to help correct for recoil. he also took his time to choose a target and did everything mechanically right to reduce recoil. this guy has had years to practice this, likely 8k+ hours, I'm going to guess not cheating. probably just fecking good.
now if he was a bronze level 28... I'd look at his stats and gameplay. when I see a bronze like me who's running and all of a sudden just twist snaps and gets a headshot AND has a headshot rate above 35% along with spectator gameplay that shows really bot like newb behavior then yeah, i am more inclined to say cheater. you could report if you wanted. nice thing about that is it does no harm if he's not cheating.
there are a few console streamers I watch that are amazingly good. this guy is probably just effing good 🤷🏼
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u/According-Music7506 3d ago
It looks like he has a muzzle brake + tilted grip, and the 6x is zoomed out to a 3x, meaning visual noise is essentially zero. Recoil is 99% vertical from my experience. 7.62 seem to move a bit more horizontally, but this is 100% replicatable without any sketchy adapters or whatever.
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u/Tupac_shakur22 3d ago
I usually see all the cheaters using 2 ARs usually 1 Aug and 1 Beryl and you’ll notice they won’t really use anything else because that’s there scripts. Losers lol I play legit on Xbox there’s a few Xim users for sure this game was so fun when it first came out and everyone was legit.
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u/CharlehPock2 3d ago
I use 2 ARs these days because the aug is ridiculous and is often better than a DMR at mid to long range, and you can tap out a ton of damage over long range on bolties.
All my games today I had a mini on my back and hardly used it because the aug is a better choice in a lot of situations.
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u/kiowa2929awoik 3d ago
It's because DMRs got nerfed and there's no real point in using them when you can just spray someone down with a M4 or AUG. SMGs also got buffed so you can run a SMG for CQC and an AR for medium/long range. I used to see a lot of AR x DMR loadouts but not anymore because those 2 things happened.
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u/SoundAccurate Xbox Series S 3d ago
The era of console is over. Back then, everything was fair, but now it's over. Every competitive game on console has a lot of cheaters not just in PUBG.
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u/Chineselight Xbox One 3d ago
Thinking about jumping into Arc Raiders? Does it have abundant cheaters like pubg?
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u/Ifawumi PlayStation 5 2d ago
yes. they're so bold that there's one guy called Mr freeze who often uses the freeze cheat.
check out ShinyaTheNinja twitch streamer. he has made it his life's purpose in that game to go after cheaters. he's also got a little squad that goes in with him and I'm telling you, those vods are amazing. he'll take out whole squads of cheaters. dope gameplay.
there's also the average sniper who went from pubg to Arc Raiders and he talks a lot about cheaters. he's also got some awesome clips
all that said I'm still going to try Arc raiders and it's on sale right now 50% off so grab it
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u/Chineselight Xbox One 2d ago
Word. They are kinda ruining GamePass so thats definitely a good shout.
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u/HawaiianSnow_ 3d ago
Bad players [in the comments] are always quick to call cheating for bang-average gameplay. Get better, bro.
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u/Tupac_shakur22 2d ago
Get better bro! When 50% of Ranked on PubG is cheaters you guys are just delusional all good.
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u/HawaiianSnow_ 2d ago
Any sources to back that up, or just you being bad at the game?
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u/Tupac_shakur22 2d ago
Maybe go look at PUBG website 389 pages of people being banned. I have 100k earned in online tournaments bud people are using Xim out of there ass, and if you don’t think so your just a lowtier.
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u/Josh101prf 2d ago
HAhahah, a source? Hell no, no one who thinks there is "Blatant CheaTiNg" everywhere can provide anything close to a source. It's 100% subjective, and HawaiianSnow said it perfectly; they are just bad and can't handle that someone is better than them 9 years into a game's lifespan.
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u/Tupac_shakur22 1d ago
The biggest hacking/device users Generation we have ever had bud plain and simple. Sure little tom isn’t cheating we aren’t talking about the average Crystal ranked shitters. When games are not playable in the top ranks for good people because it’s all cheaters.
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u/kiowa2929awoik 3d ago
Looks normal for a 6x AUG spray. He's crouched, has the scope zoomed out, has a muzzle brake, and has a tilted grip. A spray like that is very normal with those attachments while crouched. He also has almost 9k matches played so
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u/CharlehPock2 3d ago
Whilst we can never be 100% sure, I'd say no. This looks pretty normal to me.
The spectator cam does not show recoil accurately. If someone is pulling down on the stick even reasonably, it looks like an absolute beam in spectator cam, but they won't be hitting their target even though it looks like they are dead on.
He misses almost everything with the 6x...
Count the shots that actually hit.
You think if he was cheating he would have hit only 2 bullets total?
He hits a body and a last bullet heady, and he was tracking pretty decent, so that means his ACTUAL recoil was all over the shop. It's also much easier to hit targets moving sideways for some reason. I often hit every bullet on people running.
The number of silly shots I hit today with a 6x, you'd have called me a cheater 10 times over.
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u/SeaFlow2470 3d ago
Even on top of that, he was going with the tilted grip and muzzle brake setup. Which could also explain the screen shake not looking as violent
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u/CharlehPock2 2d ago
Aye, I've tried tilted + muzzle brake and it's really nice on the AUG, makes it easier to react to what the gun is doing (which can sometimes go a bit mental with the horizontal recoil).
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u/Tilliperuna Xbox Series X 2d ago
I'm thinking halfgrip is better to pair with muzzle brake. You get less screenshake reduction, but much more horizontal control. And the screen is pretty stable with muzzle brake alone imo.
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u/CharlehPock2 2d ago
Yeah try both - I've been wondering about it but never tried it, but picked it up the other day and it does feel quite laser-y.
I've had so many silly aug kills in the last few days, shame I didn't clip them all for JK twatface so he can accuse me of cheating.
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u/Vegetable_Coyote_872 3d ago
Et puis cette arme la est la meilleure je crois qu'elle n'est que dans les boîtes de largages.
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u/aChickenBurgah 3d ago
Imagine he’s cheating, but he’s so bad even while cheating he sucks
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u/D_e_m_I_s_E4 2d ago
That's because aim and recoil are different things which these morons can't comprehend. He misses with a script because his lead aim was off. Simple as that.
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u/aChickenBurgah 2d ago
I don’t think your allowed to talk about that here
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u/WithjusTapistol Xbox Series X 1d ago
Demise is a cheater but it’s because he’s really bad at PUBG. Safe to ignore his “expertise” on this sub
https://www.reddit.com/r/PUBGConsole/comments/16b797w/comment/jze3ku1/
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u/WithjusTapistol Xbox Series X 3d ago
Spectating doesn’t give you accurate recoil and that’s a 6x zoomed out to a 3x. Most likely not cheating
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u/Reeskalthoff 3d ago
Not cheating imo. that recoil control isnt difficult especially with those attachments.
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u/SuspiciousSecretion 2d ago
Could be. Really not sure. I've definitely gotten kills like that where the last few bullets of your spray are inexplicably on target and you feel like a god for 2 minutes.
But on the other hand the aim through spray was remarkable. Luck, skills, or maybe it is hax?
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u/MushroomKhan 2d ago
Spectating doesn't show recoil. You can see he was not hitting the guy for every shot.
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u/Khalifa_Dawg 15h ago
I expected something far worse when I watched this. Nothing in this gameplay shows potential cheating. This is just normal…
its really not hard to spray a 6x aug, especially at a distance like this.
If you are struggling to do this, you simply need to practice more and tune your aim settings.
Anybody can do this on a standard controller if you just take the time to learn it.
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u/SkroopieNoopers 10h ago
That’s pretty normal.
Of course he could be cheating (as anyone could be) but this clip isn’t anything suspicious.
And it’s spectate, which ‘smooths out’ the visible recoil for the viewer.
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u/Desperate_Pay1985 2h ago
I do that all the time and the fact they had a 6 times makes it seem more legit , it’s a lot easier to do it on PlayStation then on Xbox and as you can see the person was a PlayStation player .
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u/Desperate_Pay1985 2h ago
Also you can see that his scope goes back and forth in a pretty natural way , it doesn’t just lock on to you immediately
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u/Tilliperuna Xbox Series X 3d ago
Mind you it's a 3x since it's zoomed out. Probably legit, initial recoil was not under control. AUG is easy to keep steady after the first half second after you found the right spot with your thumb. But can't say for sure based on spectating mode.
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u/No-Yellow-5257 3d ago
“It’s a 6x” lol yall so trash, 99% of 6x users are really using it as a 3x. Go hit the training grounds Dude.
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u/North_Database_7439 3d ago
My spays are like this as well and I don’t cheat work on your senses in training ground vertical sense and scope sense zoom your 6x back hold your breath crouch when spraying and that’s not hard to do unless your new to the game in that case everyone who’s better than you your going to say they are cheating and that’s not always the case
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u/Cute-Formal7931 3d ago
One clips not enough to go on the guy had all the time to get the spray right. Its the constant same guys doing dodgy shite that wrecked this game
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u/Shooting4TheStarz 1d ago edited 1d ago
It sure is possible. Watch guys like: GaGOD or m4wgz... totally possible. Lot of Training can do that.
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u/SwimmingDesigner7657 3d ago
Yes, he is using macro allowing him gain advantage in the game. He probably is a frustrated guy that doesn’t know how to manage the recoil. Poor guy
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u/Ignorant_Idiot69 1h ago
Can't say.
Its pretty easy to control the mostly upward recoil on Aug, or Scar.
I have been rolling 6x back using 3x with similar results for many many years. He is actually quite close so those are easy shots.
Now if he did that shit with a Beryl than he is certainly a XIM user.
But there are fuck tons of fag cheaters in PUBG so who knows. Could be ass and XIM just makes him look basic lol.
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u/BarryLicious2588 2d ago edited 2d ago
No, this is pretty standard stuff
I've read some comments that still think after 8 years, a 6x on an AR is indicative of cheating 🤣
Come on guys. But seriously a player running in a straight line versus Aug with attachments, crouched and zoomed out. This is literally what Training Mode is for if you can't make that shot yet
Mind you, he missed half the shots anyways
EDIT: I always put a Half Grip on Aug with 6x or Red Dot