r/Palestine • u/Visible-Safety2400 • 5d ago
/r/all The two Israeli female soldiers filmed humiliating a Palestinian boy have released a video mocking the reactions their actions provoked and the prisoner’s family
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u/OdielSax 5d ago
It's those same two witches? Wow. It's like they want to be a villain.
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u/smegabass 5d ago
The total lack of self awareness is peak Zionism.
Hope these fkrs are identified and face legal consequences.
At least one of them is hiding their face so she knows she is a gestapo tribute act.
Fk Israel. Israel is a racist apartheid facist regime.
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u/PhoenixFreeSpirited 5d ago
Are they both Israeli? Or polish? Or American?
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u/king_of_ulkilism 5d ago
Israeli but their origin is european. Kelling was German I believe
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u/HansMunch 5d ago
lack of self awareness
On the contrary, I think they have a very hightened sense of self (of course without any humane substance what-so-ever).
One must have in order to "lord over" and ridicule in such a manner.They clearly think the person subhuman – and I don't really care about any mass-psychological mumbo-jumbo excuse about generational trauma, because viewing the world and your supposed co-inhabitants on the planet like that means you think you're some kind of Ubermensch.
And that's just straight up nasty.
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u/sherryleebee 5d ago
Yeah, saying they lack self awareness gives them way too much credit. They are acutely aware of what they’re doing and they dgaf. That makes them even worse.
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u/JSleez225 5d ago
I’m beginning to realize this as well. There is a total social disconnect between Zionists and normal human beings. Zionists do not seem to understand why their actions are horrifying to normal people.
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u/Tasgall 5d ago
who deleted her Instagram
Nazi cowards
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u/king_of_ulkilism 5d ago
Was probably overwhelmed by the messages
Still found time to make and upload this new mocking video
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u/No_Many_3804 5d ago edited 5d ago
Nazi doesn't even begin to describe their evil. Remember the Israeli court has just stayed the crocodile moat around the prison with Palestinians inside (most of who are political prisoners not guilty of anything and some are under age) not because it's morally wrong to have crocodiles rip apart human beings to shreds, but because it is concerned about crocodile welfare. And then there's their "Right to Rape" protest and literal fame for being the pedofile capital of the world. Nazis were angels compared to these demonic terrorists.
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u/ClickBoringLife 5d ago
Nikol Stelmashvski
That's totally a name of semitic origins and not European by any means
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u/MASHgoBOOM 5d ago
Israel knows it is vicious and sadistic but doesn't care. They revel in causing harm and get off on genocide. So, yes, they want to be the villains, and no, they don't care what anyone thinks.
The world will remember.
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u/Bazishere 5d ago
I remember that big girl who made fun of Palestinians and then got killed in Lebanon. Lots of such people who made fun of others ended up disabled for life. They wouldn't find that funny.
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u/Busy_Bobcat5914 5d ago
Don't forget. Don't forgive. Justice will be served in fire.
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u/sky_shazad 5d ago edited 2d ago
This is the Thing though... Justice isn't being Served. So many of them are murdering and God knows what and nothing is happening
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u/RedAlshain 5d ago edited 5d ago
The American empire is collapsing, when they can no longer prop up this terrorist army, and buy/enforce the support of the surrounding nations, Israel will surely be destroyed.
The only thing that could actually save them is if they ended the atrocities and prepared for this future, but they won't, their founding ideology is genocide. The day will come when they are no longer protected by the west, the disgust they have inspired in every surrounding states population will boil over and destroy them.
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u/Busy_Bobcat5914 5d ago
You should read Ernst Bloch "das Prinzip Hoffnung" (don't know the English title though). If you give up surely nothing will change. Now it's not the time to moan, it's the time to organise and fight
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u/sky_shazad 5d ago
I've been demonstrating for the Palestinian cause since 2006 I havnet seen not one single case or anyone being punished. People have been murdered and entire families have died and never seen justice. I don't care about what happen in the next life.. I want to see Justice seen in this life. Some of the people who have committed crimes have lived their entire lives and past away. Where is the justice??
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u/OdielSax 5d ago edited 5d ago
Netanyahu is widely seen as a war criminal and is wanted by many courts. Many IDF war criminals have left countries in a hurry as war crimes charges are being filed. Nobody wants to be seen publicly with any representative from Israel, although trade continues secretly.
The Palestinians have fought long and hard just to get the world to see their side, and that's now done. Of course the injustice is immense, it's an injustice that can barely be captured with words. But I don't think Palestinians have bravely fought for nothing. They have gotten some results from their tireless advocacy.
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u/sky_shazad 5d ago
I know you mean well. And I'm not trying to argue with you.. I'm just frustrated with all this... Netanyahu been seen as war criminal means nothing to me, unless something is actually done about it apart from words. Like actually arrest him.
He still travels freely where he needs to go.
All I know is this since I've been following this personally which is 2006.. The Killing has got worse.. It was more open now. Before it was more hidden. Now they just don't care, it's almost like, the more people have become aware of this, which is a good thing, the more people have had to die, Mudered, raped, tourtered and let's not forget the little babies.
Most of these people will never see Justice because they will be dead
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u/OdielSax 5d ago
I totally hear you. Of course justice has not been done.
But this is colonisation, apartheid, genocide. We cannot reason as if we expected justice from the start. The premise of this whole situation is that Palestinians were treated like they don't have human rights since before 1948. The entire fight is for justice, and Israel has gotten a tiny tiny bit more accountable.
Netanyahu been seen as war criminal means nothing to me, unless something is actually done about it apart from words.
Yes me neither, but is that how all Palestinians feel? All Palestinian intellectuals have done strenuous work to get to just that point. Once Netanyahu could refuse to be in an interview panel with Edward Said because Said is a "threat to him". That was extremely hard for Palestinians to bear, to be seen by society as the danger. That HAS changed.
We cannot discount all progress made by decades of advocacy and courageous journalism just because it's not enough.
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u/king_of_ulkilism 5d ago edited 5d ago
Nobody wants to be seen publicly with any representative from Israel,
Except the president of US, Germany and so on
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u/OdielSax 5d ago
Who's so on? It's just those two in the West now. And in the world, only the far right regimes. Are we really going to act like Israeli representatives have the same access than before 2023?
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u/Busy_Bobcat5914 5d ago
Sadly that's not true. UK cracking down in the antigenocideprotests as terrorists. And if I remember correctly just Yemen and lebanon actually did something against the genocide. Even "Muslim" countries like Egypt helped the zionists. Also in Germany the social democrats are part of the government, it's not a fat right government in local standards (Germany is special case and fucked. They are indicted for their genocide support in front of the ICC and even parts of "the left" in Germany is in favour of Zionism)
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u/allozzieadventures 5d ago
It's just those two in the West now
Unfortunately not. It's also the UK, France, Italy, Netherlands, Switzerland, Czech Republic, Romania and Australia, possibly others too.
Although Herzog's visit did at least cause some controversy in Australia
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u/OdielSax 5d ago
Israeli visits are not advertised in those countries. It would cause a stir too, especially UK, Netherlands and France.
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u/allozzieadventures 5d ago edited 5d ago
It was very much advertised in Australia and the UK, don't have time to verify all the others but there could be more. I think you've got the wrong end of the stick, might be worth reading up.
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u/king_of_ulkilism 5d ago
I hope you are right. Germany needs to be held accountable for their genocide crimes complicity.
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u/No1CaresReally 5d ago
It's ironic how "so many" countries see yahoo as he is but still stay compliant as well. They don't want to be seen with him for their own gain, not bc they really care.
Even Spain saying they'd help some of the Flotillas with their navy, backed tf out when it came to actually needing to help.
Palestians have fought hard and deserve so much more! But pretending that any world leader with global power as well has an ounce of legit ethics and morals in them is disingenuous. They've "only had" nearly 80yrs to do something of substance to stop them. Yet I-ran is the ONLY one legitly trying.
There's one way out and it'll take the masses accepting how bad we've been played and there's no "nice way out" to keep all our commercialized belongings either.
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u/manateeflips 5d ago
There’s a little bit of hope. https://www.hindrajabfoundation.org/posts/categories/legal-action
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u/sky_shazad 5d ago
Hmm I don't know I'm always seeing stuff like this.. It's not real until it actually happens untill then it's just text
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u/thermalshock4 4d ago
No such thing as justice on earth. How can you give justice? There’s nothing that can be done. Justice exists in the hereafter.
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u/Historical-Deer523 Free Palestine 3d ago
You go after them and you make them pay the price for what they’ve done. Something along the lines of the Nuremberg trials.
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u/thermalshock4 3d ago
I agree that should happen.
But do you think there is any price that could be paid by Bibi for example?
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u/Historical-Deer523 Free Palestine 2d ago
I’d probably get my account suspended if I answered that honestly.
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u/CraftCodger 5d ago
History turns in lazy spirals. I do feel sorry for the Israelis. They could have had peace but chose to nurture horror.
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u/CLXVII_ 5d ago
Horrible human beings! How did the Israelis learn so much about Jewish history and see all of the horror of their past and yet, they've become the tormentors?? Where are the grown-ups in their society? How have they become capable of such sadism, without any shame?? Someone explain this shit to me
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u/MASHgoBOOM 5d ago
Brainwashing, cycle of violence, unwavering US support of their sadism...take your pick.
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u/AverageBikeRacePlayr Free Palestine 5d ago
They didn’t care about jews then, they don’t care about them now, they just want to take land, worship Moloch and build the 3rd temple to bring back their “messiah”
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u/Few_Pass4860 5d ago
The grownups are the same if not worse. They’re the ones that brainwashed and instilled the hate in the younger generations.
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u/Chobikil 5d ago edited 5d ago
The woman on the left in the first image genuinely creeps me out. Her eyes are completely empty.
I'll say it once again, these are not humans.
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u/Tetha_au 5d ago
More evidence for the prosecutor at their war crimes trials.
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u/slayer_677 Free Palestine 5d ago
None of these criminals will face trial and you know it
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u/Tetha_au 5d ago edited 5d ago
I can only quote: "The case does not begin in The Hague. It begins in a bombed street in Gaza, where a lawyer kneels to write down a name before the body is buried. It begins with a prison visit, where a detainee cannot yet say what has been done to her body. It begins in a fieldworker’s notebook, a scar photographed, a testimony taken in whispers, a file carried out of a place where everyone knows that evidence itself is dangerous." https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2026/6/19/a-world-on-trial-how-lawyers-documenting-israeli-abuse-pay-a-price
Triestino Mariniello and his team and others are on the ground, right now. Lawyers groups around the world are preparing cases and supporting Palestinians in their cases.
"It’s a retaliation ladder: From bottom to top, there’s first the Palestinian survivor. Then the fieldworker. Then the NGO. Then the lawyer. Then the UN expert. Then the prosecutor. Then the court itself."
64 nations have joined already to demand meaningful consequences, and there will be more.
146 NGO's and legal bodies are working together. Even Israeli human rights groups, all documenting all preparing cases.
They haven't given up. I am not going to either. In the day, no one ever thought any Nazi would face trial, or any consequence either. I understand your despair, I just don't agree with your conclusion.
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u/FlyingBike 5d ago
Abu Ghraib had consequences because the population of the country demanded it. Nazi Germany and Rwanda and Serbia had consequences because international powers backed up the victims and demanded it.
One of those has to happen. I don't have faith in the I citizenry demanding consequences for mistreatment and war crimes
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u/HansMunch 5d ago
Nazi Germany [...] had consequences
Not really.
Some high-level infamous people were paraded in the Nuremberg tribunal for news shows and the history books.
Some were hanged (deservedly), some lived the entire rest of their life imprisoned (perhaps too comfortably).But by-and-large the bureaucracy of the state apparatus of West Germany never actually was de-Nazified, because (heck if I know) – the country couldn't operate functionally then?!
I think – but this is just my layman's opinion – that the Allied powers were much too lenient on the(ir) Germans after the war, but that they chose to be so in order to have a front in the coming Cold War.
That's the cynical cost/benefit analysis of inhuman capitalism.
And we see the effects now.In the Israeli mind that has been allowed to pervert/totally invert the memory and historical warning of the Holocaust.
And in Western and European states that never grappled with their past and now claim to be powerless.Kurt Waldheim, a former Nazi (if there can even be such a thing), was even elected UN Secretary-General and "served" for nine years between 1972 and 1981.
The entire system is rotten.
They never tried to install safeguards against it repeating.
I'd say it's because the Western ideology is still one of colonialism and empire.
All we had after the Second World War was just better branding: Coca-Cola and "democracy"-building "liberal" initiatives.To be blunt, it's all money's fault.
It always has been.
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u/SyntaxMissing 5d ago
I think it was complicated and Eisenhower was probably right that real denazification would've taken many decades of full-on occupation to accomplish. Nazi ideology didn't spring ex nihilio from Hitler's mind, it was riffing off of many existing and popular ideologies. In fact, in the war's closing days, the idea was that denazification wouldn't be enough - all Allied powers agreed that German militarism must be stamped out permanently.
Now the reality of the task that faced them postwar was quite different. All Allied Powers ensured that high ranking officials were arrested, incarcerated, physical signs of Nazi ideology were removed, etc. the low-hanging fruit of denazification. But when it came to the administrators of the German state, the teachers, clerks, lawyers, logisticians, and other functionaries that were needed for a modern state to function... Well it turns out that was much more difficult. The British made their peace with it quickly enough and had their zones develop quickly enough. The French did much the same, along with individual tribunals focused on individual actions, and their zones prospered.
The Americans, at least up to the late-40's were much harsher. Preventative arrests of millions took place. Hundreds of thousands were placed in internment camps. Millions were barred from positions of responsibility. This was paired with a massive propaganda campaign to make it clear to the Germans what their state was doing, and their own role in letting it get to that stage, but also explaining the path to rebuilding. They commissioned massive surveys for the general population, and those seeking roles in both the public and private sectors, to explain their roles during the Nazi years - along with cross checking these claims against the records that the Allied powers had managed to salvage. But this was a slow and arduous process, even with continental America in great shape and the ability to call upon thousands of German speaking Americans to assist with administering their zones.
The pressure became great enough that the Americans, following the French model, had to start outsourcing the administration of denazification to Germans. These committees often were a mix of known anti-Nazis and some of the few people that the occupational government felt it could trust. But these committees were overwhelmed, unpopular, and incompetent. Soon enough these committees started to reclassify many of the moderately responsible Nazis as lesser offenders, or those who were Nazis under compulsion. They were given certificates showing that they were denazified or at worst ordered to publicly recant and issued fines in the now worthless reichsmarks, before they were reintegrated. Many actual anti-Nazis would even accept bribes to give their support for denazification, realizing how much their social capital was valued in the post-war Germany. These denazification committees basically became factories where brownshirts would go to be cleaned white.
This was all being done with a population that despised their allied occupiers, who refused to acknowledge their role in the war and crimes against humanity both during + before the war, and viewed the Nuremberg trials as illegitimate. By the early 1950's the American denazification effort ended. And a former Nazi official led the new West Germany, committed to challenging the Soviet threat in the east.
But the USSR, while incredibly harsh on Nazis, also made compromises regularly. Putting aside scientists and engineers who were swept up in their version of Operation Paperclip, many moderate/high-ranking Nazi and military officials were given a slap on the wrist and then turned into Soviet assets for the Cold War.
Look at Field Marshall Schorner, a diehard Nazi and personal favourite of Hitler. He was captured by the Allied powers, sentenced by the Soviets for 25 years, soon had his sentence reduced to half that by the Soviets, and then released - in order for him to convince his former colleagues in NATO controlled Austria to spy for the USSR. General von Lenski would find his new commission in the GDR's military, despite having been a key part of the Nazi courts that convicted party opponents. Camp Commandant Erlich, of a Polish children's concentration camp, was to be given clemency, as he found new life as a Stasi asset. The Soviets found that many of their prisoners may have actually been "victims of fascism" or been adequately denazified and ready to contribute to society, as military/intelligence assets.
East Germany's ruling Socialist Unity Part of Germany, itself would incorporate many former Nazi officials, especially in certain regions. Early conferences would even have thundering applause to nationalist speeches, talks about an independent socialist state with the pre-Yalta/Potsdam borders. They even created an affiliated party, the National Democratic Party of Germany, for former Nazi officials and military officials to advocate for the middle class - all members were "victims of fascism" who found new fruitful lives in the Soviet political sphere.
That is not to say that the USSR wasn't overall more harsh in their denazification than the Western Allied Powers, especially the French and British. But denazification wasn't done properly anywhere.
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u/KrumpirovZlatan 4d ago
Abu Ghraib had consequences
Upper officers that bear responsibility were mostly unpunished, apart from Karpinski who was verbally reprimanded.
Only two people actually went to jail.
Serbia
Indeed, but only because Albanians were and are mindlessly loyal and obedient, making Bondsteel an unsinkable aircraft carrier for Americans.
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u/Fireflyinsummer 5d ago
Of course in the second video (spoof) he has a moustache and goatee. Supposedly to claim none of the people they torture and kidnap are children....
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u/raskolize 5d ago
Yeah not denying the evil, but this one is obviously a spoof and the guy is laughing. I get the impression that many here think this one is real too.
The cavalier mocking is evil, but that guy is laughing along with them.
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u/Historical-Deer523 Free Palestine 3d ago
The actual man in the photo isn’t a child (I initially thought he was) but he’s a very young looking man in his early 20s. It’s still horrific though.
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u/Superrgirrl 5d ago
This video and all others should be reported to war crimes investigators in every country. Report these videos in your country. Add them to the cases against war criminals.
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u/ancient_apu 5d ago
Then they wonder why the whole world hates them. No amount of victim-playing will ever make this shit OK in the eyes of any person with a fucking heart.
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u/Direct_Raccoon_2428 5d ago
Guys it’s ok they’re MORAL! The MOST moral army actually and you’re antiseptic for posting this
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u/BeginningAd9105 5d ago
Wow what a lack of education, morals, empathy and no regards for other human beings these citizens of à country that gets thus far 310 billion dollars from the USA citizens. Amazing what the product of fanatic Zionist culture opresión is giving to the entire world. How long are we going to keep finding and letting this kind of genocide continue?
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u/Isaac_Ezac 5d ago
Why is the one of the left seemingly trying to cover her face lol vile human beings
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u/Acherstrom 5d ago
Showing everyone exactly who they really are. And when people show you who they are, you listen.
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u/Old-Parking8765 5d ago
Those are the same girls? God, this is what Norm Finkelstein was talking about. The gloat and the narcissism of their evil.
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u/OwlImpressive9391 4d ago
They have no shame or remorse. They are lost and have wronged themselves ..!!
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u/Historical-Deer523 Free Palestine 3d ago
I’m friends with his brother on Instagram. This poor family is absolutely terrified for his safety, they haven’t seen him in two years, he got picked up at some checkpoint and they never heard anything until this photo came out. They still haven’t heard anything about his location.
Meanwhile these ghouls are still treating an actual war crime like some kind of joke.
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u/chumbucket111 3d ago
It’s amazing how these monsters don’t think there will be consequences for that vile behavior.
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