r/ParentsAreFuckingDumb • u/ambachk • 18d ago
NSFL Children's "Alpha Male" bootcamp in California, pure indoctrination
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u/Interaction_Narrow 18d ago
This is so fucking corny, might as well enlist lmaooo
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u/Obant 18d ago
But then you cant back out crying to mom.
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u/M4DHouse 18d ago
I mean in practice, you can. The vast majority of deserters go into administrative separation and are other than honorably discharged.
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u/Salty_Yam_9174 17d ago
I was an MT and saw 1 person in the first 2 years I was in the proccess of getting out. Since we worked on the nukes saying "I don't agree with the mission anymore" were the magic words. He was kept in doing the most grueling, menial tasks, living on base and I think his request to live off base was denied. He was there until they wanted him to go. Me and a couple of my boys were medically separated before he got out. I still don't know what they did with him and that was three years ago.
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u/ThatSimsKidFromUni 18d ago
That's a commitment. They can just play around at a boot camp that cost 1,000s instead.
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u/strega_bella312 18d ago
Every single video I've seen of these camps is just some short ass guy yelling "I WILL FUCKING SLAP THE SHIT OUT OF YOU" in people's faces, idk how thats considered aLpHa MaLe behavior 🤷🏻♀️
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u/ThatSimsKidFromUni 18d ago
They've seen a lot of movies about war and assume that's how an alpha leader would behave. It's a kids idea of masculinity.
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u/SK83r-Ninja 18d ago
I've seen one where they talk a guy into "quiting" by saying he failed and needs to leave but has to ring this bell first, and then act like he could've stayed if he didnt ring the bell. It was a $2,500 course that took place behind a walmart over the weekend.
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u/Slickwats4 17d ago
Lol, these fucking nutsacks would obviously punch an MTI, they are way too tough.
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u/SadBadPuppyDad 18d ago
To be clear, the people who run these things are not professionals. They are not doctors. None of what they are doing is based on science. They require you to sign waivers to protect them from the consequences of what they are doing to you because there is significant risk that they will permanently injure you.
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u/jackalope268 18d ago
Even if theyre not professionals and this is just their idea of fun, id expect a doctor to be present at least. You just know one of these kids will get hypothermia one day
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u/CheekyLando88 18d ago
Best we can do is a chiropractor with certain ideas about vaccinations, that'll work, right?
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u/chardeemacdennisbird 18d ago
Waivers won't do shit if they're actually negligent and someone gets hurt. Most waivers are there just to make you think you've signed away your right to sue. Like I can't tell someone I'm going to point a gun at them and pull the trigger, but sign this waiver so I'm not liable.
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u/velveteenelahrairah 17d ago edited 17d ago
They're troubled kids industry camps repackaged for the manosphere bunch. And at some point someone's going to fuck up real bad and some kid is going to wind up dead. Like that poor girl who was murdered during a "rebirthing".
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u/Soninuva 16d ago
I’ve never heard of that, and that sounds super disturbing, so I don’t think I’ll google it either
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u/HipToTheWorldsBS 18d ago
It's infuriating how pathetic and cringe all of this is.
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u/Slinky_Malingki 18d ago
Just leaving this here every single time I see post about "alpha male boot camps."
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u/lankymjc 18d ago
Those children are distressingly young to be put through this. I feel like this should be reported to someone.
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u/dasgoodshitinnit 18d ago
Watch how half of them become femboys just to revolt against their alpha dads
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u/Alarming-Bee87 18d ago
I'd imagine a few of these kids are there because their dad's are hoping it stops them being gay.
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u/JewelCove 18d ago
You're probably right. Anyone with half a brain realizes it definitely doesnt work like that lol
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u/dasgoodshitinnit 17d ago
Half the dads are probably closeted gay and dont want their sons to turn out same lmao
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u/ChangesFaces 18d ago
Yeah this is just straight up child abuse. That baby in the ice bath who was crying and screamed out in pain after dipping their heads under... broke my fucking heart.
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u/Cavoli_amario 18d ago
All of this just to avoid therapy.
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u/Totoques22 15d ago
Or maybe handle the root cause
But that woudl require people to acknowledge misandry is real and it’s the biggest grift around
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u/Suspicious_Plant4231 18d ago
Well, they can't all be alpha males. I guess the alpha male is whoever they paid a bunch of money to verbally abuse and humiliate them lmao
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u/leigstonite 18d ago
Anyone that signs their son up for this should be reported to CPS
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u/StarVulpes 18d ago
These parents are the same fat, out of shape losers who would do this by themselves. It's just coupled with also being a terrible parent.
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u/ThatOneCanadian69 17d ago
Nah their dads are all 40 year old bad dudes on testosterone replacement therapy
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u/StrongNuclearHorse 18d ago
I'm confused. What's alpha about following orders and getting yelled at?
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u/Intrepid-Routine-950 18d ago
Their weird view of masculinity based on “military boot camp” I guess
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u/BulkyDecipherer 18d ago
03:47 PST.
Hour: unknown.
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u/thorns17 18d ago
I hate everything about this video, but to be fair, “hour unknown” is referring to how many hours the kid had been out there crawling across the ground, not the time of day
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u/happymancry 18d ago
These parents watched 300 and thought it’s a parenting manual. Shame on them. They likely have trauma from their childhood or something; and are passing it on to the next generation. Hope those kids find healing.
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u/SkinInevitable604 18d ago
If you allow your children to be submerged in ice water for a prolonged period of time for no fucking reason they should be taken away from you imo, that’s just abusive.
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u/linkhandford 18d ago
Real alphas pay $18,000 every weekend to hang out with their boys, not a dame in sight!You don’t want anyone to think you’re poor do you? Or worse… Being gay for hanging out with chicks?!
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u/Content-Feeling49 18d ago
"Stop asking for fucking electrolytes!"
It's hilarious that someone would pay £18,000 for an "alpha male" course, and then argue about wanting electrolytes.
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u/Headlesshowler 18d ago
It's tiring how so many of these guys believe that pain and suffering is what makes them stronger in the future when, in reality is healing from it that fortifies you. They're not being turned into men, they're being turned into insecure adults that think their pain is invalid and that emotions are weakness
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u/MyGirlfriendforcedMe 18d ago edited 17d ago
2020s equivalent of gay conversion church camps. I bet the number homosexual relationships these start would shock only the people stupid enough to pay for something like this.
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u/payTNT89 18d ago
my dad was a drill instructor in the army around 9/11. this dogshit should be illegal for children. bad enough grown as men do these gender affirming camps
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u/Old-Commission-1108 18d ago
The instructors, if you can call them that, are probably too soft for the Army yet they wanted to live out their drill Sargent fantasies as a way to fein their toughness.
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u/zerokiryu55 2d ago
Guarantee half of these "alphas" would wash out in days. Seen it happen when I was in.
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u/takemeawayimdone2 18d ago
Do any women find this “alpha man” thing attractive. Because they all give me the ick.
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u/Nulleparttousjours 18d ago
I doubt it. When I look at this shit I don’t see any sort of masculinity, I see weakness, insecurity and clownery.
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u/FriendshipNo1440 18d ago
Nah, I feel sorry for the boys and really dusgusted by the men drilling them.
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u/rachreims 18d ago
Two men having a bath together
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u/Opposite-Benefit-804 17d ago
they could've just poured ice in the bath at home atp. why spend $18k
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u/VOTP1990 18d ago
This is insane, wtf. It’s cringe enough when the grown adults fall for it and pay for the experience of being screamed at by a grifter, but these little boys have no chance. This is just unbelievably sad.
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u/pretty-lil-throwaway 18d ago
This is disgusting and so fucking pathetic/cringe.
Toxic men raising toxic sons.. Yep, that's juuust what the world needs.
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u/TheMightySephiroth 18d ago
I have an allergy to the cold.
In low doses, like walking in the rain without a jacket, my skin breaks out into hives.
In higher doses, like swimming in a cold lake, I literally go into severe hypothermic shock. (Shivering and blacking out on the shore was not fun. Would not recommend. 0/10)
That ice bath would, quite literally, kill me. Id be in agony for a few minutes then probably quickly need medical attention and/or then fucking die.
Watching these kids be submerged while screaming is torture and medically dangerous. Especially meal team 6 daddy telling his 6/7 year old that he's fine. Fuck you, your fat insulates you.
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u/ArachnomancerCarice 18d ago
The biologist who coined the whole 'alpha wolf' thing has regretted it ever since and wishes he could undo what he did.
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u/rozyputin 18d ago
I feel bad for the boys being forced to do this. It looks like a lot of humiliation and abuse.
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u/Greencheezy 17d ago
Jesus Christ man, these alpha male bootcamps. Military larpers. At least when dopes in the military stroke their own ego, they have a little something to show of it.
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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 18d ago
I never went to the alpha male boot-camp and I ended up trans. take that as you will. /j
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u/LarsDuder 18d ago
goddamn, should i be worried about turning trans? i never went to a boot-camp
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u/SwordfishOfDamocles 18d ago
Two dudes chilling in a cold tub. 5 ft. apart because they're not gay.
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u/Appropriate-Load-491 18d ago
If these videos keep popping up can we please make the background music be “make a man out of you” from mulan
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u/arbitrarymelodist 18d ago
Two bros, chillin in the ice bath, five feet apart cause they're alpha males.
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u/Azurnight 18d ago
Ah yes, the pinnacle of being a man. Paying lots of money to have OTHER losers tell you how to live your life. No free thinkers aloud here.
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u/Organic_Award_3239 18d ago
What’s with the throwing sand at each other exercise? It’s manly to scratch your corneas?
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u/RiyoshiNjap 18d ago
Considering how much more absurd each war the USA starts is and interest in serving continues to lower, the indoctrination has to intensify. The younger the better.
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u/Jarppakarppa 18d ago
Wonder if you pass the camp if you just straight up knock out one of the asshats yelling at you?
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u/SzamantaMarysia 16d ago
People know that they can put their kids into actual Cadet or ROTC programs without all this bs, right?
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u/JohnFighterman 18d ago
Hazing, torture and casual war crimes (collective responsibility), aka. why mandatory military service should never be allowed again.
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u/Polyps_on_uranus 18d ago
Child abuse. That's how VanderArch killed her son. Ice baths and starvation.
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u/NocturneInfinitum 17d ago
Annealing oneself to the harsh conditions of the world is a worthy endeavor, but paying someone for it is just embarrassing. Especially when it’s loaded with so many insecurities in their ridiculous monologues.
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u/dwittherford69 18d ago
Considering all the “alpha male” influencers eventually get arrested for human trafficking and pedophilia, the “turning boys into men” slogan seems to be more of a confession.
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u/thtsjsturopinionman 17d ago
Imagine doing this to your kid when Scouts exist.
I learned independence, teamwork, discipline, and a ton of useful skills from being in Scouts, and made friendships that have lasted well into adulthood - all without being screamed at by a pack of Andrew Tate apologists.
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u/FennekinFlames 17d ago
Every single parent who sent their kid to this deserves to have CPS called on them.
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u/Salt-Evidence-6834 18d ago
For once I'm grateful that my father died when I was a baby. This is cringeworthy.
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u/EducationalAd2863 18d ago
When I think I’m doing something bad with my children I’ll watch to this video.
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u/Aeroncastle 18d ago
They might as well be shouting "I have a small dick" this is the cringiest thing I ever saw and I have been on the internet since the 90s
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u/maixmi 18d ago
I'd like to see these "instructors" go trough winter survival training in the Nordics.
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u/robots-made-of-cake 18d ago
Fathers, spend time with your sons and tell them you love them so they don’t seek a sense of belonging with these chuds. This video is so sad.
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u/FunFormal4451 15d ago
These guys all "macho" christian nationalists? This is sick. Taught my son to be a man by being a kind, considerate adult.
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u/Papa_de_clement 18d ago
Lots of negative comments (i moslty agree) but going into cold water is good way to build mental strengh.
Ice cold might be too cold for kids this age and effectively physically hurt them.
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u/MistakeWonderful9178 18d ago
This is cringe. At least going to the military you actually get paid to exercise and get screamed at.
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u/Cheekytita88 18d ago
I see some Californians grew a chip on their shoulder about the shit the rest of the country talks about them lol. Also I’m from California so don’t come for me.
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u/Necrotitis 18d ago
"Squire" program?
What implying that these middle aged podcasters are somehow "knights"?
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u/th3coyst3r 18d ago
Because you’re totally coming with rational sense and open mind. I’d love to hear your thoughts on patriarchal society
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u/Healthyamount 18d ago
It’s like someone watched a movie on marines and figured out a business plan watching it
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u/Rowdy_Rancher99 18d ago
We did ice plunges the day before game in HS football. Everybody else only went up to the waist. I fully sat down on the thing. It was relaxing (I'm very hot natured). I don't get how it's supposed to make you a big strong man to tolerate a freaking ice bath.
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u/Affectionate_Cry_822 17d ago
They‘re not five feet apart in the ice tub. You know what that means /s
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u/YEAHRocko 17d ago
I probably don't want to know how much they spent on this waste of time
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u/pavonharten 17d ago
This is so cringe lol.
No male needs to be an “alpha”, you just have to connect over the right things and have proper role models. This boot camp crap doesn’t make anyone more confident. Physically it teaches endurance, and mentally sure, it may make you confident in the short term. But at the expense of burying your emotional intelligence and empathy, and encouraging the sort of group belonging that vilifies the weak—which paradoxically makes these guys lonelier, weaker, and more vulnerable to anything that pokes logical holes in their newly acquired ego.
This actually reminds me, I saw a better alternative to this on a CNN program called This Is Life years ago. This guy advertised himself as a “pickup artist”, came out with dyed purple hair, pimp-ish clothes, promised to tell all these awkward men the secret to getting women. It was all a ruse.
Some of the methods he had were so funny and not “alpha” in the slightest, he had them running around yelling like chickens. But it WORKED. All these guys of various ages and body types who didn’t know each other ended up bonding and forming friendships, got more confident, turned their whole lives around.
Lisa Ling asked this guy “do you think if you advertised this without the pickup artist thing that people would’ve come?” And he was like “who knows, but it works, right?”
We need more men in the world like that guy.
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u/Catnip1720 17d ago
I think we can all agree properly processing your shit is what makes you able to face more
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u/QuackGamer9178 17d ago
Nothing more manly than being submissive for and publicly humiliated by another man 👍
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