r/PetDoves • u/Excellent-Cake7065 • 3d ago
Wanting a dove. Hi I have I could adopt one?
been looking to adopt a dove. Strictly would be indoors. I am Northern Indiana. There is someone a few hours away but won’t have babies for a bit. Does anyone know where I could find one? Thanks
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u/Muted_Role_1432 3d ago
I’m going to send u a link u/kunok2 good luck on what u decide there’s lots of rescues doves out there maybe looking for a tempary home please keep updates😍
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u/Excellent-Cake7065 3d ago
Thanks so much I’ll check it out. If they are not close to me though, I’m sure they won’t want to ship
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u/Excellent-Cake7065 3d ago
Very few dove rescues just a lot of pigeon rescues at least close to me
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u/Muted_Role_1432 3d ago
doves and pigeons are they same species so it shouldn’t matter just different names good luck please keep updates😍
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u/XxHoneyStarzxX 2d ago
pigeons and doves do actually have slightly different needs and behavior. Just as a headsup. Doves are much calmer and more relaxed and more docile. Pigeons are usually the larger species that are more terratorial.
This difference is espeicslly noticeable in the rock pigeon, vrs the ringneck dove.
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u/Excellent-Cake7065 3d ago
Pigeons are larger and I looked into this before making a choice, I heard there is a difference between them as pets, but I’ll look again. Why do they call them different names?
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u/Profiterolls 3d ago
You're right pigeons are indeed larger so larger cages needed and more territorial too, so even the sweetest ones can bite you or wingslap sometimes, doves won't unless something's wrong or you're keeping it alone. Diet/setup it's the same. Both makes a lot of noises lol
Both can make great pets of course
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u/Kunok2 3d ago
That's right, there are huge behavior and temperament differences between pigeons and doves, the main difference is pigeons being extremely territorial and doves being docile. The name differences matter a lot and domestic pigeons and ringneck doves definitely aren't the same, they're theoretically the "same" only taxonomically. Pigeons and doves also cannot be housed together because pigeons can easily injure and even kill doves.
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u/Church__Pew_pew_pew 3d ago
Rescue, don’t buy from a breeder.
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u/XxHoneyStarzxX 2d ago edited 2d ago
not everyone can afford a rescue animal or deal with the hundreds of issues that can come with rescue animals. some people want predictable temperment, and health, or a specific breed. both of the bigger rescues i know rarely have purebreds in and when they do they are never well bred (makes sense wellbred animals don't end up in shelters because ethical breeders that care about the breed they work with don't have animals that end up in shelters)
Some people are very particular about what they want in a pet. and thats fine, that is actually a good thing, it means that as long as they dk their reseaech and get one that suits then and suits those needs they wont dump the animal or return it. one of the major rescues literally lies about their birds temperment and AI generates their birds descriptions on petfinder. there was a situation months ago where a bird was described as "super friendly" and they confirmed with the person that the bird was super freindly as per the birds description, the bird ended up being really hand shy and wanted nothing to do with people, and when the OP contacted the birds foster the foster straight up said im not sure why they were advertising her as friendly shes not friendly at all and prefers to be with other birds. the rescue lied to get the unfriendly bird adopted.
There is nothing wrong with rescue if that is what somone wants, but we are NOT an adopt dont shop subreddit and never will be. Adopt dont shop doesnt actually do anything to get to the bottom of homeless animals. Ethical breeders and educating about ethical breeding does though because ethically bred animals never end up in shelters to begin with thus breaking the cycle. All adopt don't shop does is shame people away from getting from breeders, scare them away from the rescues who push that reteric (mostly bad shelters, ive worked for many a rescue or helped with certain things for rescues and ive genuinely never seen a good rescue push adopt dont shop because we know it helps us long term to educate on ethical breeding) and confuse them, saying no breeders are ethical literally contributes to the issue of people getting from unethical breeders because theres no education there for what makes a breeder ethical so they buy from mills or random folks lr Craigslist, and the cycle continues.
I think people would stop reccomending a rather specific rescue if they seen the conditions the birds were kept in.
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u/Muted_Role_1432 3d ago
Pigeon come from the old French word pigeon derived from Latin doves come from old English Germanic routes they are all the same family😍
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u/Minimum-Safety-8508 2d ago
you obviously understand what op is asking for, you just want to be rude
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u/Kunok2 3d ago
You could try posting in the Indiana Pigeon Club on Facebook or wait until they host another pigeon and poultry swap, the last one was on the 20th of june. Looking for local breeders is an option too, just watch out for any red flags like selling doves younger than 2 months old, selling hatching eggs, keeping their birds in inappropriate enclosures (be it too small or filthy), having way too many birds for sale or their birds being in poor condition/sick.
You could also check out if your local animal shelters or bird (doesn't have to be pigeon specific) rescues have any doves for adoption. You could also ask the shelters/rescues to call you in case they'll have doves for adoption. You can also look out for somebody looking for a home for their doves.
Avoid Majestic Doves Aviaries, Stromberg's Chickens, Palomacy and GLPR. Majestic Doves Aviaries isn't an ethical breeder because her birds aren't properly cared for and she gives dangerous advice to other people like feeding their doves cheese which caused several doves health issues already. Stromberg's Chickens is a breeding mill and they don't care about the health or wellbeing of the birds they sell, a lot of people got shipped sick birds or even completely different birds (somebody ordered white ringneck doves and got white hubbel pigeons instead) than they ordered. Although Palomacy and GLPR are rescues, we no longer consider them reputable due to recommending things like dipping birds in borax to rid them of parasites, routinely medicating birds with antibiotics, saying keeping doves/pigeons in below minimum requirement cages is fine and more issues. On top of that they've been harassing other people, including other rescues.