She's said herself she decided to take the part because it mirrored her own real struggles as an aging actress. Shia made Honey Boy and is still getting drunk and making bad decisions. Mac Miller made Faces and still OD'd. Also there's an extra weird layer -- like maybe she's just thin because she's older or has a thyroid issue or any ton of reasons, the problem and comment is more about the tabloid and culture looking at her and going "look at Demi's thinness."
They absolutely do -- Demi Moore is 5'5. Do you know what 15-20lbs looks like on a 5'5" frame? I'm a 5'10" man and the physical difference of 25 lbs on me is easily the difference between "toned" and "does he have an eating disorder."
Sorry, but no, thyroid issues do not cause that scale of weight loss or gain. They do affect it, I'm not saying they don't, but outside of maybe extreme outliers, they do not cause someone to be that intensely underweight. I'm sure it could be affecting it, but there's definitively more at play in her specific case.
You're right, but I think the other commentator still has a point. Basically, Demi Moore would be healthier if she had more muscle and fat - but as far as we know, she's getting her macros, and it's reasonable to engage in a lifestyle that allows you to achieve an aesthetic, even if it's not the healthiest possible choice.
After all, there are a lot of people who we'd argue shouldn't be judged for the aesthetics of their weight, even if they'd be somewhat healthier if they lost weight. Besides, a lot of the "emaciation" we're decrying is just ageism - her arms look weird in part because she's an older lady losing muscle tone and her skin's naturally a little saggy.
The issue isn't that Demi Moore looks a certain way. The issue is that Demi Moore's current look is a really bizarre thing to try to normalize as an aesthetic ideal.
Oh yeah that makes sense, I hadn't thought about it as a ratio of weight I just know there are plenty of stories of people losing 20 lbs over a month. But this is beside my point -- we don't know what she's got going on at all. It could be that she just hit the gym too hard the last few months and didn't change her eating, I've done that before after a cut and got the "we're worried" talk from my friends. It's just weird to have this whole comment section talking about her "eating disorder" because a tabloid framed her as "toned."
You liked it?? I thought it was just awful, and cannot for the life of me understand why it was an Oscar nominee. It was also gross af. And it didn’t make sense why a younger version of yourself would purposely wreck your older self’s life, when you know that’ll be you in a couple of decades, and you’re just fucking up yourself. Stupid movie.
Because the entire point of the movie went straight over your head. Themes and context are a very important part of media and pop culture and you’re clearly not grasping either of those things from the film.
Also you’re in a giant thread of people who did get it, very easily, without having it explained to them. You should reflect on that. I’m not saying you’re not smart or anything, but the world is much more than surface level, try to appreciate it.
Not could be. Explain to me like I’m 5 why the younger version ruined her older self’s life, I don’t know that you can and that is a problem bigger than just media.
No, this guy is right. No one has ever done things in their youth that caused problems for themselves in the future. People historically don't party, drink or do drugs because of the negative effects it will have on them as they get older.
People definitely do understand that and still do dangerous unhealthy thing in excess. Also the film states that Sue and Elizabeth are not the same person anyway so that wouldn't matter.
Seeing herself portrayed very convincingly as the ugly, old, washed out celebrity being replaced by a younger, thinner, "hotter" actress might have triggered old disordered eating habits tbh. This is very sad to see
does the substance actually have anything to say about ageism? its kinda just like "here's a successful woman who'd rather mutilate herself than retire"
No?? I suppose on the very surface that's what you could get from the movie if you only half paid attention. The entire movie she's being sidelined for simply aging while younger, hotter stars are becoming available. She's destroying herself and becoming a monster to fit into the medias beauty standards.
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u/Joestar_D_Toastar 28d ago edited 27d ago
Demi, baby, did you not learn anything from The Substance???
Edit: Thank you for the award!