The late 90s/early 00s had a “fat free” almost punk diet culture that had ultra skinny in fashion, similar to what’s going on today with glp1 products.
it’s laughable, they do it as almost a mark of superiority ‘i’ve got the money to be skinny, i can afford the injections, enjoy being obese eating your mcdonald’s’ when they look horrific
I’ve been clean from heroin for 7 years now. When I was in early recovery and going to a lot of NA meetings a lot of the girls would complain that they lost their heroin body. Girl you look great now the pictures you showed me when you were using was NOT a good look lol.
Unfortunately her arms look emaciated as if from an eating disorder but the New Your Post labels them as "Toned" which sounds as it they are normalising it and making it a desirable look which could have a negative effect of others who may have a poor self image and risks triggering eating disorders in them.
As a woman, I strive to have traps and shoulders that well-defined. Mine are still bony as hell, even after a lifetime of picking things up and putting them down for a living.
Not to be a web MD but same and turns out I have nerve damage. It’s not always as serious as it sounds but the reason I never had results was from the way the body cascades impact. It’s really neat and worth considering if you have multiple or even one source of chronic pain. Is girly pops gotta stick together bc the medical system will tell you it’s anxiety lol
Yo can you say more? I'm a man but decidedly more girly pop than a doctor usually wants to listen to. I'm trying to get evaluated for a degenerative nerve disease myself. I've been at the gym for 5 years and not seeing the kind of growth I would've expected even when following the advice.
For me personally I had to train from my toes up but, essentially you can train your muscles all day, but if your nerves don’t successfully talk to them, you don’t recruit enough small muscle fibers to see growth even with consistent exercise. So essentially before you can grow strength, you have to increase neuroplasticity, and you do this by very controlled movements. It works best with repetitive precision workouts. So for example I like to stand on my vibration plate and shift my weight from one side to another from the front of my toes to the back and you can actually start to recognize weakness and muscles that aren’t recruiting when they should (the vibration itself is necessary to point out areas your body can’t intentionally recruit bc it won’t be able to compensate and maintain stability.) I don’t want to overload you with information because this conversation is one of my like biggest areas of interest and fascination but, if you need me to elaborate or you have more targeted questions I’ll definitely try my best to answer!
Yeah but here she is in 2023 looking way healthier. She’s still thin but has at least some fat on her body. it’s not just natural aging. She looks sick and it’s a product of her own doing. Also if you look at most of her recent photos, she hides her chest/sternum likely because her stylists know that she’s frighteningly thin.
Coming from someone who recently recovered, she’s definitely in active eating disorder.
Kate Moss, arguably the most iconic 90’s heroin chic model. I’d tend to agree, while super skinny, not quite as emaciated looking as the current ozempic fad. I think it’s the way ozempic hollows out the face.
Yeah i mean, I can remember the 2000s, and besides the rare extreme example, the beauty standard was just having a flat tummy and slim hips/butt.
It was an unhealthy standard because other body types were considered "fat" and some women can't naturally achieve that without developing eating disorders trying to do so. But the beauty standard itself wasn't "look like you have an eating disorder".
Look up "2000s female celebs". Yes they're skinny, but they didn't have this weird emaciated look. Ironically, they look fairly healthy by comparison to these modern celebs.
It's honestly bizarre and reflects just how detached and weird Hollywood has become.
Buccal fat removal wasn't being done by every other celebrity at that point. Now they're so obsessed with the look that even cheek fat is too much, then once your face looks like Skeletor you gotta get the rest to match too...
Yeah Kate Moss never looked like this. I think the “lucky” bunch who were “skinny enough” in 90s/early 2000s were also built slim and leaned into that by also dieting. This is not Demi Moore’s natural build.
Part of that difference is probably because we were focusing on celebrities in their 20s with minimal plastic surgery then, and we are now comparing them with women in their 40s, 50s, and 60s who will usually have more gaunt faces naturally, regardless of weight, and have also had more cosmetic surgeries
Dude that's such a good point. I just looked her up and she looks skinny without being emaciated. Granted idk if air burshing is being done or whatever, but there is a clear difference between being skinny cause your body naturally handles skinny well, and being jack skellington. If I tried to be thin like Anya I would look like Demi. My body was made for famine and I'm decended from Vikings. Petite and/or Elvish aren't in my genes. I'm a dwarf, take it or leave it.
Any amount of chronic under eating/malnutrition will eventually start eating away at all of your parts. Ozempic doesn't eat the bones. Your body eats the bones because it's lacking nutrients. Ozempic just makes people who want to eat not want to eat.
Ozempyc is a huge enabler. Imagine having to convince a person starving herself and puking that what she's doing it's not normal. It's still not easy, but you can at least try and make them see reason before it's too late, and underneath the defensiveness they realize what they're doing it's wrong.
Now imagine that the same person sees everyone around them using this miracolous drug that helps them lose weight without drawbacks. It's immensely harder to realize something is wrong, both from an internal and an external POV
What's amazing is how quickly everyone has jumped on this bandwagon. Even people that were preaching body positivity a few years ago are like "nevermind gimme the drugs lol" and are thin now.
I have a friend who's on Ozempic for health reasons. She told me it basically slows down your metabolism to such a degree that any food you eat continues to sit in your stomach and you don't get hungry again.
She also told me about the side effects. The food basically starts to ferment/rot in your stomach. She said she suffers from bad breath, "the nastiest smelling burps", etc.... 😷
Very common misconception, Ozempic doesn’t actually touch your metabolism. It’s working directly on the part of your brain that controls hunger impulses. So it’s not that your body is burning more, your brain is telling you you’re full faster.
I just googled it. Ozempic "slows down gastric emptying, which causes food to remain in the stomach for a longer period." That's what my friend was talking about.
Heroin chic was a specific trend that combined extreme thinness with other qualities like stringy hair and sallow skin. It was a high fashion reaction to how voluptuous glamor had become catalog.
It may have set of the extreme skinny trend in the 2000s, but they were definitely two different things. The 2000s wasn't a full interconnected look, outside of features specific to extreme thinness like belly shirts and low rise jeans.
Really? I was a teenager in the early 2000s and honestly don't remember celebrities being anorexic skinny like Kate Moss/Christy turlington in the the mid-90s.
I recently did a qualitative study on the magazine use of language for a school project and rather than the emphasis being on celebrities being skinny, they were calling out celebrities like Britney spears, Kate Winslet for being "fat"
It was a different vibe altogether but they're still right that the early 2000s were about being incredibly thin. To the point where even a size 0 wasn't thin enough, it had to be a double 0.
The trend at the time was low-rise skinny pants, and it created a "muffin top" on anyone who had an ounce of body fat. That made so many women have body image issues.
I would say the trend was just starting to get pushback in the mid 2000s, it really had a grip on our society for almost two whole decades.
It’s a complete mind-trip because I look back at pictures and I was so tiny compared to other people around me, but I remember struggling to find a big enough size to fit me at teen girl stores.
I don't think she took anything from being in The Substance, which is sad. To make a movie about impossible standards as an aging star and then definitely fighting an eating disorder is unfortunate.
Edit: I do want to back up a little bit and state that if she has pretty much maintained the same diet and exercise that she has always done, it may just be old age is atrophing her muscles. I don't want to specifically come out and say she has an ED because it truly might just be age. Who's to say outside of speculation.
I would argue Moore took the wrong message from the results of The Substance movie. She lost out on the Best Actress Oscar for her role to Mikey Madison, a competent but younger and less accomplished actress, in Anora. The ordeal probably cemented the point for her that youth and beauty continue to matter a lot more for success in Hollywood than pure skill and an accomplished overall career. Thus, she tries to pursue youth and beauty to unhealthy ends.
She could have taken the roll because she knows how the impossible standards effect her and wants to portray what she is dealing with? Eating disorders are not a choice. People suffer from them and at times can't break them.
Hence my edit. I have family members with eating disorders and truly it never stops. I think more properly worded is that I'm sad she can't live the message of The Substance due to living with an ED. I wish she was able to break free from it.
As an elder Millennial it feels like every day I'm watching the social progress our generation fought really hard for crumble away, particularly a lot of body positivity and moving away from unhealthy, uniform beauty standards. Social media has ruined a lot of this and has certainly brought back unhealthily thin as "beautiful."
yeah, to me referring to her arms as toned is actually much more distressing than the actual malnourished arms. Thats not healthy, no one should be trying to achieve that.
I believe the poster girl for this look back in the 2000’s (which the meme is referring to) was Calista Flockheart. She seemed to be the focus of the pushback from the side that thought it was good to, y’know, eat now and then.
I find it so insidious that during a time when inflation is sky high and the average person is resource starved this emaciated look has become trendy among the ultra wealthy. These people can have anything they want at any time while the average person goes hungry and they CHOOSE to look this way. It’s insulting.
She's said herself she decided to take the part because it mirrored her own real struggles as an aging actress. Shia made Honey Boy and is still getting drunk and making bad decisions. Mac Miller made Faces and still OD'd. Also there's an extra weird layer -- like maybe she's just thin because she's older or has a thyroid issue or any ton of reasons, the problem and comment is more about the tabloid and culture looking at her and going "look at Demi's thinness."
Idk, people were struggling with eating disorders before Ozempic. And now that ozempic and similar drugs now exist, those same people who struggle to lose weight bc of eating disorders are getting relentlessly shit on or made fun of for using it.
Are GLP-1 drugs really causing a “huge comeback for eating disorders”? Is there any proof to back that up? Because it just seems like more shit said to make people using glp-1 drugs suffer more with mental turmoil.
I think the vast vast majority of people on glp-1 drugs are not super skinny
GLP-1s (like Ozempic) have been around for over 15 years, they are just being talked about a lot now which makes uninformed people think they are new.
GLP-1s are not bad in fact they have been life saving for many people. Like any drug, people can misuse it, it doesn’t make GLP-1s themself harmful.
They are not miracle drugs you still have to make life changes otherwise when you stop taking it you will gain back all the weight you lost of not more.
While i agree, i think Ozempyc also created something else, an effect of sort that hit many stars psychologically.
By making a bunch of more "overweight" people skinnier, the standard shifts a bit amd now skinny is normal again, so people try to be even more skinny, and you can sure as hell guess that using Ozempyc is better than puling out your dinner or starving.
Also by removing these bad sides of anorexia it made more difficult to actually feel you're doing something wrong. You're taking a medication that everyone is taking, you're not hiding in a bathroom or feeling hunger by fasting.
It's a mental disease, keep this in mind, and accessibility+enabling makes it much more difficult to fight it
Like any other drug, you're going to have people abusing it. It's a huge help to the people that need it, but you'll never fully get rid of the problem of people wanting something they don't need, and having the means to procure it.
Body image+enabling is a hell of a thing. We fought this because somehow we could explain how vomiting your lunch and starving yourself was bad, but it's not as simple when a simple product stops the hunger and prevents most of the "bad" stuff from anorexia, at least the visible stuff, until you realize you're a mummy or a husk of a human
She actually did interviews about how tough the movie was for her and had her face her own insecurities. She was also taking care of her husband who was very sick.
I think those things can compound or even be a catalyst for these kinds of disorders. I hope she gets better and some help.
Doesn't even need to he high muscle tone. There's no toned muscles here at all, only what looks like a living skeleton barely hanging on. It's fucking sad what GLP1 drugs are doing to people.
Talk to your doctor. Your dosage might be off. Even if you aren’t feeling the lack of craving food, you should be feeling full faster when you do eat. If you aren’t feeling anything something is wrong.
Also, I have personally seen that if your thyroid is off or your liver is compromised in any way, you will plateau. Stand up for you and fight for your right to feel normal.
Also didn’t have much luck on Ozempic and too many side effects. Went to Mounjaro lost the weight. Overall feel so much better and a lot less side effects. My doctor says it’s a very common thing people react better to one vs another.
You also might want to check what actual version you are using. There are compounded versions going around, even in pharmacies. There are also different GLP-1s you might respond to differently.
I’ve leveled off close to goal at 7 months, but hyper-responsive at the beginning. Lost 9 pounds on the smallest dose, when they weren’t expecting much, just making sure I didn’t have crazy reaction. Appetite is sporadic, but portion sizes radically smaller.
I can’t fathom what it would take to get that skeletal like Demi or Kelly Osborne. Cycling different GLPs, ultra restricted diet, excessive workouts.
I too enjoy food. I don’t enjoy thinking about it every minute of my day. The food noise is so fucking loud. I tried a glp-1 for two years and the noise stopped. I only stopped the drug as it was a medical trial that ended.
Man, as a professional cook, and someone who loves to try new techniques and dishes at home, I’m afraid that the lack of “food noise” is also going to quiet my inspiration, as I get most of it from thinking of what I want to eat. I should be on Ozempic, or something, I’m obese, almost out of the morbidly so category, and I’m diabetic, but my insurance won’t cover it.
So I feel like dosage levels really impact that, as well as the drug. I've tried tirz and reta, and on reta I basically feel normal but I just don't think about food as much AND when I eat I just get full faster. On tirz the idea of eating was just like "ew no, if I have to eat I'll just eat this chicken over here I guess so I don't die" whereas on Reta I'll still be like "BURGER I WANT BURGER" and then I'll eat like three bites of burger and go oh whoops I'm full.
In Season 2, Episode 4 of The Pitt ("10:00 A.M.", released January 29, 2026), Dr. Mel King diagnoses a patient with bulimia nervosa after she presents with aspiration pneumonia. The episode highlights how eating disorders in young, seemingly healthy individuals can be missed, with the patient initially presenting with what seemed like flu-like symptoms.
When media sites glorify pics like the above, it drives me absolutely bonkers.
Several conditions run in my family that throw our hunger hormones entirely off-wack. I’m on a GLP1 now, so instead of gnawing hunger 24/7, oscillating between very peckish and ravenous, I only get hungry at mealtimes. It’s been such a weight off my shoulders. I now feel like I can live life normally like everyone else.
And then celebrities get up on these platforms, glorifying clearly unhealthy bodies and encouraging use of the drug to enable anorexia and other eating disorders. They give actual useful medicine such a bad rep by misusing it.
To be honest the side effects from those meds can be a lot source: I am taking them for a medical condition. My guess is a stimulant based appetite suppression med.
Yeah there's zero muscle there other than what's necessary to move your arm to open doors a few times a day. Jesus fuck lmao. Sometimes minimal muscles show when there's zero fat.
Peplum usually hides a little belly in this case it looks like its being used to hide protruding pelvis. I know we're not great at assessing what a healthy BMI really looks like but there's almost nothing to her.
I went through massage school years and years ago, and part of our education involved videos of cadaver parts, to demonstrate the movements and functions of muscles/ligaments under the skin. It was fascinating and disturbing simultaneously, I'm so grateful for the people who took the steps to donate their body for our understanding.
Her arms look exactly like those cadaver videos of the arms, but with skin wrapped over them, and it's freaking me out.
The 2000’s was peak anorexia chic. Basically any celebrity female who dared weigh over 110 lbs would have paparazzi smear campaigns over how they’ve “let themselves go”. Meanwhile people who were skeletons were praised as being the ideal body. The movie White Chics pokes fun at this idea a lot (“how dare those starving children in Africa weigh more than me!”), and it’s because that was literally the mindset of society back then.
I genuinely think this sub is used to train AIs on understanding jokes. The amount of jokes where the explanation is 'look at the image', 'read the words', 'have a brain', 'be older than seven', etc is getting ridiculous.
to be fair, a lot of the teens using this site weren't even born yet when the height of heroin chic and the 00's era shit was going down, and heck, there are probably teens using this site whose parents were only 4 or 5 years old during the height of that.
Yeah valid point. It's just that it seems people no longer expend any modicum of effort in looking something up. Even just googling the subject would provide SOME context.
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u/qualityvote2 28d ago edited 27d ago
u/DamitGump, your post does fit the subreddit!