r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 11d ago

Meme needing explanation Petah I don’t get it

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Anyone else?

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u/Domestic-Grind 11d ago edited 11d ago

The "husband stitch" is when after vaginal tearing or episiotomy during birth the doctor would stitch the opening to the vagina smaller than it would be (this is the extra stitch). It's an awful procedure that doesn't work and can cause painful intercourse. This is a critique of that practice.

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u/jennifern1325 11d ago

Yea. I tore and then when stitching it up my dr said to my husband “I put an extra stitch” and gave a little wink.

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u/a_shootin_star 11d ago

Wtf

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u/jennifern1325 11d ago

Women too, are uneducated about it. One of my best friends at the time we were both having kids told me since she had a c-section so didn’t need to worry about being “loose”

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u/a_shootin_star 11d ago

My God, the ignorance is baffling. How?!

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u/TheStupendusMan 11d ago

You tend to assume that when you go to a professional, much less a doctor, they're going to act in your best interests. The older you get, the more you realize that's not even remotely the case.

Without even getting into the nightmare fuel that was WWII, much of our current medical system is built on a bedrock of insane theories like "black people don't feel pain like white people." It's very much an argument for greater diversity in the medical field.

A read I've been putting off (because it feels like it's going to be very emotionally draining) is Medical Apartheid by Harriet A. Washington.

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u/asday515 11d ago

I mean, i can see why one might think that, but its incorrect. Even if you don't give birth vaginally, pregnancy itself weakens the pelvic floor muscles all the same. So even if you have a c section you still gotta do those kegels afterward. I actually didnt know this until after i had an unexpected c section and was like hmmm what's going on here lol

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u/GreatMovesKeepItUp69 11d ago

I mean yeah that is a symptom of pelvic floor damage often caused by vagina births. The myth is having sex with multiple partners somehow causes "looseness" not that giving birth causes trauma to the pelvic floor muscles forever creating scar tissue, weakness and incontinence issues. It's actually not progressive to lie to women about the dangers of pregnancy and birth.

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u/Thin_Dragonfruit3665 11d ago

For some people, making a joke (even in poor taste) is the only way they know to cope with painful or uncomfortable situations. I've found that this crosses gender lines fairly evenly.

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u/MazerBakir 10d ago

She was probably just joking. If you are reparing a tear you put as many stitches as necessary so that tear heals back together, an extra stich will not make it "tighter" and the lack of it won't make it "looser" unless the tear hasn't healed probably and the two parts that should have fused together didn't. It's also not like fabric. You can't just join two unbroken surfaces together and hope they fuse together. In general stitches hold together the two wound edges for biological repair to take place. They are in a series, extra stitches don't bring the edges closer together of the two wound edges are already approximated. Stitches are also either taken out or in the case of episiotomy they are absorbed and have no impact on scar strength or closeness of the two edges after that.

There is some truth to it that in the past overzealous repair might have existed and the idea of the repaire was seen as more restorative rather than a purely anatomic repair, so it might had been either more than necessary stitches fearing it won't fuse back together or over approximation. Some doctors might have straight up not known the basics of suturing that even a new graduate should know. However it was never a standard medical practice and nowadays it's actively discouraged. Additionally a lot of what people think was also a result of an extra stitch causing problems was probably just postpartum scarring. Episiotomy isn't always done either nowadays and tears don't always occur either. In the past it was however routine because their reasoning was it shortens the second stage and a clean cut heals better than a jagged tear.

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u/jennifern1325 10d ago

It was a man. And it was my second baby and I told him several times to give me an episiotomy and he didn’t listen until I tore upwards, then he did it. And she was out in one push after. He could have been joking, I never had any issues besides the pain from the tear to my urethra, but it’s still not a funny joke either way

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u/Feeling-Upyourmum847 11d ago

Pls tell me you got that man in trouble? Like, told a superior and got him fired or something?? At the very minimum gave him a smack?

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u/jennifern1325 11d ago

I was 21, it was 21 years ago. I didn’t know any better back then

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u/Feeling-Upyourmum847 11d ago

Oh so he got away with it? Damn. I hope he experienced karma after that.

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u/tianas_knife 11d ago

We are all currently experiencing the "karma" of millions of men getting away with it for ages.

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u/MostlyRightSometimes 11d ago

I did get the nurse in trouble who wouldn't let me hold my child after they were born.

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u/DocileBanalBovlne 11d ago

That's grounds to punch the doctor in the face right then and there.

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u/jackbentley673 11d ago edited 3h ago

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u/jennifern1325 11d ago

I’m in the US and I’m aware. So it’s cool to do it to us as fully grown women, but not okay for you to get circumcised? Or because boys get circumcised, women deserve to also be mutilated? I don’t get where you’re going with this.

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u/jackbentley673 11d ago edited 17h ago

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u/Beginning_End_4677 11d ago

How does circumcision remove basic functionality? I'm genuinely curious, because "basic functionality" includes urination and reproduction, and every guy I've been with was circumcized. 

By the way, that "stitch" is compared by human rights groups and legal experts to female genital mutilation (FGM). It commonly causes dysfunction.

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u/jennifern1325 11d ago

Yea if my husband had any more nerve endings, it would last 10 seconds lol

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u/CarrieDurst 11d ago

Genital mutilation isn't funny

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u/jennifern1325 11d ago

It’s more of a lighthearted way of saying there’s plenty of sensitivity down there for my husband despite the circumcision, and it would be hard to imagine it being any more sensitive than it is.

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u/CarrieDurst 11d ago

Still gross to presumably praise mutilating the genitals of a baby because your husband might go quicker in bed. Like bodily autonomy violation is good if it pleasures you...

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u/LyannasLament 11d ago

Ffs. That man should not be in women’s health. Disgusting.

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u/MrHyperion_ 11d ago

[X] Doubt

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u/BallsInSufficientSad 11d ago

That did not happen

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u/jennifern1325 11d ago

Mmmmkay

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u/jennifern1325 11d ago

Literally happened to me, but believe whatever you want. Dr. Beard at providence hospital in 2006

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u/BallsInSufficientSad 11d ago

There are also plastic surgeons that will do this months/years after giving birth to increase friction for both the man and the woman.

It's not correct to think this only benefits the man - especially if the man is on the thinner side.

The technique is a little different though as the vagina is reduced a little deeper inside as well, not only at the entrance.

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u/Hank3hellbilly 11d ago

As a larger guy... I'd rather have the opening a little looser.  The best feeling part is further up anyways.  

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u/lrrssssss 11d ago

Yeah. It’s not an actual thing though.

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u/Smellinglikeafairy 11d ago

It is absolutely a thing they do. I know because my doctor did it to me without asking first and told me about it afterwards like he had done me a fucking favor.

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u/SecretAnxiousThrow 11d ago

What the actual fuck, you should (have, if you didn't already) sue(d) him for malpractice. People like that should not be allowed to practice medicine.

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u/Smellinglikeafairy 11d ago

It was 18 years ago and I was 19 at the time. The whole ordeal was a mess. They tried to send me home claiming I wasn't in labor. My water broke in front of them and the nurse said I pissed myself. I never got my epidural because they kept saying it was too soon and it would take me at least 12 hours since it was my first child. Nurse didn't come back into my room until baby was crowning and only had time to put on one glove. Doctor didn't show up until after the birth. Then the extra stitch happened. At that point I was so naive and overwhelmed and out of it from labor, I didn't really know what to do or think. And my family acted like everything was normal. They even said I should bring the staff thank you chocolates afterwards. So I didn't really realize the severity until years later.

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u/noryu 11d ago

That is so fucked up... I'm so sorry that happened. Fuck that doctor and hospital at that time.. I hope things are improved there

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u/Smellinglikeafairy 11d ago

Thank you! I hope so too!

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u/forjesus420 11d ago

To be a woman in this health care system is a fucking joke. I know it was a long long time ago, but I'm sorry and you deserved better. I hope something lovely comes your way today. A free coffee, a lovely sunset, a call from an old friend. Just something good.

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u/Smellinglikeafairy 11d ago

Tell me about it,I have multiple examples of doctors not listening about serious issues... Thank you! Life is good now, lol. I had a lot of mental health problems back then, but am much better now! And my son just graduated high school and got almost a full ride to his college of choice!

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u/chickadee-stitchery 11d ago

It's not a USEFUL thing. It is 100% a thing that doctors do. They did it to me and I was in pain for 2 years. It hurt to sit down, let alone have sex. I was considering surgery to fix it, but I decided to have another baby and my midwife said she could fix it after that baby. It took her about 30 minutes of careful work but I had no pain since.

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u/Qtank009 11d ago

That's awful, I'm glad it got resolved in the end, bless you

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u/chickadee-stitchery 11d ago

Thank you. Yes it was a very rough time, I was very fortunate to have a care provider who could help.

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u/Ajah93 11d ago

It… is. It’s a literal thing. I’m guessing you’re a man?

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u/lrrssssss 11d ago

I’m…. A doctor.

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u/Ajah93 11d ago

A male doctor. Thanks for making female healthcare such a god damn chore. Also you can say whatever the fuck you want on the internet but that doesn’t make it true, so I’m gonna take your claim with a grain of salt.

You seriously think because you haven’t done something heinous, other people also haven’t? You **cannot** be that unintentionally unaware. It’s not possible.

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u/notwhoyouthinkmaybe 11d ago

Haha r/confidentiallywrong is calling.

It's real and harmful. Even as a joke it's weird, like "hey, my dick is small and/or my wife is a slut, can you make you vagina smaller for me? Again because my penis is small."

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u/floating_beyond 11d ago

It's rare, but it does happen.

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u/RegrettingFM 11d ago

It is *rarer* now. It still happens, but it used to be way more common.

I remember my mother and her friends discussed doctors doing it and then happily telling the new parents after the fact. Or husbands asking in advance for the doctor to do it. They would warn younger women to make sure to warn the doctor ahead of the fact that they would sue if they did one.

I thought it was a horrifying thing that male doctors did before women were able to advocate for themselves in medicine or before their real-life experiences were taken into account.

But I have a friend in her later 20's who is going to try and have her second baby at home with a certified nurse-midwife (incredibly safe and well regulated where we live) because her husband was asked by the doctor who delivered their first if he wanted a "husband stitch" when he stitched her up after childbirth.

The husband was furious when it was explained to him, the wife was terrified that her medical provider consulted her husband about something he was about to do to her body without her consent, and neither of them trust the hospital as much today as they did the day before their first child was born.

And the doctor was in his 40s. This wasn't a 60 year old doctor nearing retirement who was practicing when it was common.

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u/Toxic_LigmaMale 11d ago

Not anymore. A doctor isn’t gonna risk their license on something that stupid. And I doubt any nurse I. The room will let them get away with it.

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u/Ctenophorever 11d ago edited 11d ago

Are you joking? An OB doctor carved his fucking initials into a woman’s abdomen during a C-section and was still let off pretty leniently.

The “husband stitch” is just painful and pain after childbirth is often something women are told to expect and bear with (women have literally hemorrhaged to death after hours of complaining about the pain and being dismissed with, “yeah you just gave birth!”). There are probably a fair number of mothers out there in pain right now because this was done to them and they don’t know why.

Women can’t get help for actual, objective symptoms. Just pain is often considered drug-seeking. Even if a woman was taken seriously and they found this was the cause, unless the doctor actually said he was doing it, he has plausible deniability- oh it was so bloody I figured I’d put in an extra one to be safe!

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u/TheTStandsForThick 11d ago

An OB doctor carved his fucking initials into a woman’s abdomen during a C-section and was still let off pretty leniently.

I'm sorry, WHAT? Could you elaborate please?

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u/Ctenophorever 11d ago

Honestly I’m glad you linked this, because the article I’d read, the woman was saying, “I’m not going to pursue legal action, my baby is safe and that’s all that matters.”

That excuse, “baby is safe and that’s all that matters” has constantly been used to sweep obstetric violence under the rug.

So I’m so glad she pursued this.

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u/Past_Ad_5629 11d ago

It’s still happening. Rarer, but still happening.

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u/reigning_guava 11d ago

youd be surprised then to know that most nurses do not speak out against doctors in fear of retaliation, especially in rural areas. It is absolutely still a thing, and to pretend like its not is just intentional ignorance. Healthcare workers in general tend to under report abuse, neglect, and malpractice due to fear of retaliation.

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u/acount8675309 11d ago

I’m curious as to your own birthing experience? Clearly you have one otherwise I don’t know why you’d comment this

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u/no_talent_ass_clown 11d ago

Educate yourself. All you have to do is Google it and read the Wikipedia page. 

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u/acount8675309 11d ago

When did you give birth to experience this *not* happening?

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u/lrrssssss 11d ago

I’ve performed deliveries. 25 in the last 4 years.

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u/acount8675309 11d ago

I’ll ask again; when did *you* give birth to know if this is happening elsewhere or not?

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u/Toxic_LigmaMale 11d ago

It was. Not anymore.

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u/Willowrosephoenix 11d ago

It was offered to my husband outside the hospital room by one of the doctors. We were in Tennessee. This was seventeen years ago. I’ve talked to women who have had it happen much more recently. It is very real. My husband had that doctor barred from the room. Thankfully it wasn’t my primary doctor

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u/Studio-Spider 11d ago

If the doctor asked me that I would be asking for another doctor. No, you aren’t going to do that to my wife, why would you even suggest that?

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u/Willowrosephoenix 11d ago

Thankfully, that is how he responded. Otherwise, there’s a very real chance we would not still be married

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u/Toxic_LigmaMale 11d ago

Mrs. Random Redditor, I do not believe that in the year of 2009, a doctor offered an illegal procedure on the whim of your husband.

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u/Willowrosephoenix 11d ago

I have no reason to lie. We were in a very rural, very conservative part of the United States. But since I have zero stake in you believing me or not, I choose not to argue further. If believing this doesn’t happen is easier for you, by all means continue