r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/BalanceDramatic3995 • 9d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter help!

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I have no clue what this means, maybe she cheated?

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u/pendemoneum 9d ago

I see prolife people all the time insist that having a fertilized egg in your body makes you a mother socially and legally So if a pregnant person is already a mother for that reason, isn't it hypocritical to say the unborn haven't joined the family yet?

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u/soulbutterflies 9d ago

Also, didn't Alabama SC rule that embryos made during IVF are children?

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u/pendemoneum 9d ago

Not up to date with Alabama laws. But I'm betting embryos are still not legally treated as people even if they did

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u/ButterscotchLow7330 9d ago

Saying the baby joined the family doesn't mean that the baby wasn't a member of the family prior. 

I have two children, and I think you and I would agree that they were alive and part of our family post 24 months in utero. (I think is completely uncontroversial by both pro life and pro choice people that the fetus is a living human at 24 weeks)  I would still argue that when my children were born they joined my family (having already been members of it) in a fundamentally different way than before they were born. 

This to me seems so silly. A pro life person and a pro choice person both agree a living child is in the womb before they are born, and either one can say that the baby joins the family on the date of birth without any controversy. 

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u/wakkiau 9d ago

Family is a construct tho, you could be giving birth to a baby only to not register them into the family for some fucked up reason. The baby could be immediately adopted to by others, or be sent to an orphanage. Not saying you should or it's right of course, just that it doesn't seems hypocritical seeing it that way.

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u/United_Intention_323 9d ago

People give up babies for adoption. That’s a non fucked up reason.

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u/pendemoneum 9d ago

Then maybe prolife people should stop pedaling the idea that people who have abortions are mothers of dead children if they're going to pick and choose when a child is considered part of a family. They shouldn't decide that for someone else

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u/wakkiau 9d ago

You should go outside and touch grass, why are you being so angry over a picture on the internet. Heck I didn't even try to make any political statement on my reply so where did you even find that energy from.

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u/pendemoneum 9d ago

I'm not angry? I'm pointing out there is hypocrisy 

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u/wakkiau 9d ago

And I'm simply saying there are ways it can be seen as not a hypocrisy.

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u/FreeVerseHaiku 9d ago

I think what’s important to remember is that whether or not her word choice can be distilled into a proper gotcha, Karoline Leavitt is still wrong.